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Free alcohol + aggressive timeshare sales pitch = Lifestyles Holidays Vacation Club disaster?

April 15, 2009

Trista Blanchard expected sun and fun on her recent Dominican Republic vacation. She wasn’t prepared to spend $45,000 on a timeshare — or for the nightmare that followed.

Here’s what she says happened to her:

We recently stayed at the Lifestyles Holidays Vacation Club in the Dominican Republic as a rental member of a guest. We attended a very aggressive sales presentation that was augmented by lots of free alcohol (a bar in the sales office and champagne on several of the property tour stops) and unfortunately signed for a $45,000 membership in the club, paid in full by credit card. The application for the Bank of America credit card was provided by the sales person, faxed in by them and opened, with a full charge of $45,000. During the sales presentation, Bank of America was mentioned several times, and the credit applications given were also Bank of America, the bank’s logo is also on the landing page of the Lifestyle Holidays Web site.

The next morning we woke to reality and requested a cancellation, only to be met with aggressive sales and increasing “benefits” of membership offered. By the way, our assigned customer service representative cannot get us back into the resort due to full capacity for over a full calendar year, even if we wanted to go. We returned home on March 30th and immediately contacted Bank of America, who advised us to send a cancellation request via certified mail. I did that and also sent an email that was acknowledged by Lifestyles that same day.

After communication from us daily requesting an update of our cancellation request, we were finally told on April 8th that the escrow company associated with Lifestyles has declined our cancellation request, and our only option would be to re-finance 50 percent of the original cost with them at 0 percent interest. We again declined and requested cancellation. We continued communication with Bank of America and once we received the final denial of refund from Lifestyles, a credit dispute was opened for investigation, but of course no promises are made for the final outcome.

I’m no expert on the law of the Dominican Republic, but something tells me there should be provisions against signing a contract under duress (for example, when alcohol or other mind-altering substances are involved) as well as a lemon law that gives consumers a “cool down” contract rescission period. (Mexico has such a rule.)

Unfortunately, the Fair Credit Billing Act doesn’t apply to her situation, because the purchase didn’t happen in the United States. But that doesn’t mean Blanchard is out of luck. Bank of America can’t just insist that she fork over $45,000 — or even half that amount at zero percent interest — without doing due diligence on her dispute. And even then, she can refuse to pay her bill and fight the bank in court.

If Bank of America doesn’t step in and nullify her contract, I will contact the bank on her behalf. But I think the bank will probably side with her.

If both companies give her a final “no” then I’ll probably be in contact with them as part of a bigger story on timeshares that I’m planning to write. I hope it doesn’t come to that.

In the meantime, for all of you planning to visit a resort any time soon — watch for the alcohol-fueled, aggressive timeshare sales pitch.

Or put differently, don’t drink and sign.

Christopher Elliott is the author of Scammed: How to Save Your Money and Find Better Service in a World of Schemes, Swindles, and Shady Deals. Critics have called it “eye-opening” and “inspiring” — it’ll “grab your attention and won’t let go.” Order your copy now on Amazon, Barnes & Noble or iTunes.

18 comments

  • Leonard

    I’m sorry – while I don’t think it is ethical to aggressively sales-pitch people, whilst serving them intoxicating drinks, anyone with a little common sense would have seen this ‘bad omen’ coming a mile away. It’s like the sleazy guy with the greased back hair in the bar, who keeps buying all the beautiful women drinks. You knows he’s only there for one thing and anyone with any common sense stays a mile from the guy. Then again, some people obviously have not learned this particular life lesson yet.

    In fact, if someone presented me with a purchase of $45,000 it would make me stop in my tracks no matter HOW intoxicated I was. 45K = Instant sobriety. Maybe Trista is one of those lucky people out there, to whom $45,000 isn’t anything to bat an eyelash at. Or maybe she was really, really drunk. ( This is the financial equal of a coyote-ugly? )

    I am not completely heartless, and I do hope she gets her money back, as the people running this scheme are quite obviously underhanded….but I hope she suffers a long and drawn out legal process in the meantime to act as a reminder not to be so stupid in the future. I personally don’t feel an ounce of pity for this woman. My immediate reaction to reading this letter was: “You idiot. You got what you deserved.” In this situation, be glad that a whopping bill isn’t the only thing you woke up with.

  • Richard Clarke

    I’m sorry but I’m laughing too hard to type much of a response to this. Is this left over from April 1st?

  • SirWired

    The idea of vacation timeshares is a good one; in theory they should allow families to take vacations they otherwise could not have afforded, or arranged only with great difficulty. In practice, they way they are sold gives the whole industry a bad name.

    While we did not get drunk and wake up next to a timeshare contract, we did attend one of these presentations… (It happened to be Fairfield, now Wyndham in North Myrtle Beach, SC) It was an insult to my intelligence and a waste of my time. They absolutely refused to let me take any paperwork home to look it over; I especially wanted to study the whole “points” system along with the rules for exchanges. It was all, sign, sign, sign today! My simple reply was that I would never, ever, purchased deeded real estate without the opportunity to study the deal first. After the saleswoman figured out that we weren’t going to buy today, she dumped us on some guy “who usually works the phones in customer service, and just needs to take a survey.” What a crock… he was no customer service drone: he was a “closer.” After asking a few short questions, he got down to what he was really there for: “What would it take to get you to buy today?” I reply with my same answer about not buying real estate after a two-hour presentation. He asks “What if it were free?” I reply still that I would want to study the deal… “free” could still have substantial ongoing cost. He scribbles some numbers down on a sheet of paper and asks if that would do the trick; my wife and I simply walk out the door.

    In what should surprise nobody, the deal he was offering was one that included so little resort time or “points”, that the first saleslady said that they “don’t push that level any more due to customer satisfaction issues.”

    If the timeshare industry wants to get more respect than the stereotypical used car salesman, they need to cut this crap out.

    To the original poster: You absolutely need to talk to a lawyer right the heck now. The FCBA will not protect you, and BofA has no incentive to either. Certainly the purchase of real estate while intoxicated can be a reason for contract recession, at least in some jurisdictions. However, the foreign country angle may change things around a bit.

    SirWired

  • carver

    I on the other hand am conflicted.

    I think Leonard’s post lacks an appreciation as to how persuasive these time share people are. While its easy to say, “NOT ME”, the entire multi-billion dollar industry is built around pressuring gullible people into making imprudent financial decisions. I’m an aggressive trial lawyer and even I won’t go near these snakes lest I get bitten.

    I too believe in personal responsibility. However, I believe that will willful deception trumps personal responsibility.

    Leonard is right in one respect. Trista acted with extreme recklessness. First, she attended a timeshare presentation. Why? Because she was offered free or reduced lodging, free booze and food knowing full well that the promoters were trying to sell her snake oil. Second, she allowed herself to drink in excess to the point where her good sense was impaired.

    I do hope that Chris runs a story on time shares. I hope that Chris would also contact an economics professor who can explain in simple terms, why buying a timeshare from the developer is usually a boneheaded move.

    As far as whether Trista is on the hook, my suspicion is yes. Her story is not duress. Her only defense is if there a either a cooling off period or some quick of Domican law.

  • Chicky

    I hope there is a cooling-off period, honestly, even though Trista signed the contract, assuming there isn’t more to the story than is told here. But I work for a newspaper. I’m just suspicious by nature.

    Anyway, hubby and I attended one of these sales things while in Aruba. We had no intention of buying a thing, and just took the tour because it was Sunday and everything was closed except the ocean and pool. We got $50 in cash for our trouble, some of which paid for a pizza in our hotel in Nashville the night we got back. I consider it ample compensation for our time. Yes, they pushed hard. However, we were cold sober and kept politely saying, “I’m sorry. We just can’t afford it right now.” No way would I have signed a contract for $45K of anything. I don’t drink anyway, and if hubby had downed a few and was waffling, I’d have marched him out of there and dunked his head in cold water!

    All due respect to Chris and Trista, but my news nose smells a rather large rat here.

  • http://msn Cliff Woodrick

    To all – Timeshares are an excellent vacation choice. I own 23 weeks so Claire and I travel 23 – 25 weeks per week. I purchased them on the secondary market for $300 to $5,000 for a quality two bedroom unit. Do not purchase from the developer. Our children and grandchildren come with us to our home units or “trades.” We have travelled to many countries using trades.

    Watch yourself purchasing on the secondary market as some people will sell you something that they do not own. If you contact me I will forward an excellent company which I used.

    Have a wonderful day – Cliff

  • Carver

    Time share on the secondary market can be a reasonable deal. But for the overwhelming majority of folks, time shares purchased from the original developer is a horrible dea;

  • Joe Farrell

    There are whole families that are the result of a drunken night of debauchery – feel good that you didn’t sell your house for $1 and another shot of Tequila . . .

    “There should be a law,” is wonderful wishful thinking. Guess you learned the first lesson of buying stuff – never do it drunk.

  • MarkieA

    A friend of mine related an experience he had with one of these high-pressure timeshare sales pitches, and I thought it was priceless. He was fully aware of what to expect, he really had no intention of buying a timeshare, but he was getting a few free days in a hotel plus a couple of free meals so, what the heck. However, he did a good deal of research ahead of time and found out where the timeshare company had locations; more importantly, he found out where they DIDN’T have locations. So, he shows up for the sales pitch and they ask him where he likes to vacation. “Tokyo”, he says. “Hmmmm, we don’t have any locations in Tokyo.” “Well, I like to go to London, too.” “Hmmm, we don’t any locations in London, either.” This went on for a few more minutes. Next thing you know, he’s out the door, having taken up less than 15 minutes of his day, still got the rooms and dinners. I thought it was hilarious!

  • http://sickmomma.blogspot.com Aviva

    I went on a time share tour on Cabo San Lucas in 2003. I got sucked into it because we wanted to do a snorkling trip that we were offered for free if we just went to this breakfast and took a tour, with no obligation to buy anything. So we were told.

    We went, we had breakfast, we listened to the presentation, we took the tour. We said we couldn’t afford it. We got pressured relentlessly, and eventually turned over to a closer, who when we continued to refuse the offers, eventually berated us and swore at us for wasting his and his colleagues’ time.

    The 90 minute tour and presentation took 3 hours, and we couldn’t just walk out because we had accepted their shuttle ride from our hotel and we needed to wait for them to take us back.

    As my husband says, it would have cost less just to pay full price for the damn snorkling trip!!

    No, we didn’t buy anything, but three hours with those rude, badgering and insulting salespeople was not a fair trade for the discounted snorkling trip. (It wasn’t even free!!)

    I sympathize with the poster (although like another commenter, I can’t imagine being so drunk that I’d sign a contract to pay $45000!!!), and hope she gets out of that contract without any penalty.

  • Carl Wolf

    There has to be a cost of acting stupid and, in this case, it’s $45,000. It seems as though EVERYONE involved is at fault, with the exception of the person who approved the charge. Alcoholism is a treatable disease, and I hope they don’t get a single penny back.

  • Mr Bad Example

    @SirWired,

    Loved your comments, they reminded me of my own time share experience. I should also state that I’ve been selling or teaching Sales for close to 25 years.

    Like another poster I knew what to expect and was ready for them. Did the whole presentation and walk through. Then we get to the reception area and lo and behold as if by magic a contract appeared with my name on it completely filled out as I sat down in the small “Closing Rooms” with the pen laying across it. This is called the “Assumptive Close” and was the first of many canned/trite closing attempts. I decided to keep this person dancing for as long as I could just to see how long she would stick with it before she brought in the closer. She hung on for about an hour as I peppered her with questions about the fine print on the contract until I told her “I need to take this to my attorney before I sign” Well that apparently pissed her off as she got instantly indignant and replied “We are a reputable company” and excused herself.

    Less then 2 minutes later here comes the closer, Looking VERY GQ and he goes right for the throat and asks “What would it take to get you to buy today”? I smiled and said “A large caliber pistol pointed at my head” We laughed and he said “No Seriously what would it take?” Told him “I was serious, but apparently you and your colleague don’t listen very well. You know there is an old saying is sales, Two Ears, One Mouth, meaning you listen twice as much as you talk. I told your colleague that I’m taking the contract to be reviewed by my attorney and if either of you had taken the time to actually listen to your prospect you would know that” Well that did it! Thought he was going to punch me LOL, He went on a rant about how they were a reputable firm etc etc until I stopped him with “Well then if all you say is true then having a lawyer verify that shouldn’t be a problem now should it? Now his face is crimson heading toward beet red and he begins to explain “policy” and how they can’t let me do that . I asked him if he didn’t mean won’t instead of can’t?

    This went on for over an hour and I eventually had the VP of Marketing for the site in the room. She finally gave up when I said, “I’m going to say this exactly once. I’m interested in your property. However I will not sign so much as a cocktail napkin until my attorney reviews the documents. If you are the type of company you say you are then this should be no problem, only an idiot would sign a contract agreeing to pay thousands of dollars plus annual fees and not have an attorney review it. So are you folks implying that I’m an idiot or can I leave with the contract.”

    She had the gall to chastise me for “Wasting their time” as she escorted me over to get my ‘prize” for attending. Never one to keep my mouth shut I thanked them and then dropped the bomb informing them that I worked for a Fortune 50 Co in Sales and I had just made quota for the entire year and didn’t feel much like working as it was a nice spring day. I thanked them for showing me how NOT to sell. Little do they know that I turned that day into a case study I use on Sales Techniques.

    Bottom Line is this if you’re feeling pressured to buy right here, right now tell them you want your lawyer to look at the contract. It changes the dynamics and puts them on the defensive and you can extricate yourself more easily.

    I know I was a “Bad Example” jerking those Sales people around. It was fun to watch them squirm. It’s kinda like a cat toying with a mouse.

  • David Z

    LOL @Mr Bad Example. Would’ve perversely loved to do the same thing and watch them squirm, especially since I just learned what one group called integrity selling. :)

  • carver

    @Carl

    I understand why you may not believe that the OP is entitled to get a refund, but why would you actively hope that she and her husband are out the 45K of their presumably hard earned money?

  • Rodrigo Cordova

    I am a lawyer dealing with time share cases of Dominican Republic.
    If you want I can take a look at the documents you have signed and probably I will let you know how you can recover your money.
    If anybody else is suffering from the same situation, please feel free to contact me:

    Rodrigo Cordova
    email: rodrigocordov@gmail.com

  • AreYouSerious

    What’s frustrating is “pleas of help” like this that makes real greivances look fake.
    You volunteeringly attending this meeting, sat thru their shpeel, enjoyed the free drinks, and signed your name on the dotted line. Why shouldn’t you be held accountable to it. If the tables were turned, would you expect the same outcome?
    Come on, we all groan and moan about “holding people accountable”….don’t move that line when it works in your favour.

  • lyn

    I just lost 30,000 on a timeshare in Domincan Republic. I don’t generaly drink, however, I had 5 drinks and was feeling pretty good. The salesrep even tried to dance with me. $20,000 has been placed on my credit cards @ probably 29% which there is no way I am going to be able to pay back. I was also offered to stay at this beautiful resort all inclusive instead of having to stay at a divey resort where I was originally booked. I’m not sure if my CC companies can help me or not. Call me stupid or someone looking for a good bargain and not really seeing what was happening. Now I am screwed for life. Any suggestions? Please do NOT put me down any further. If anyone is interested in renting a time share, please email me. Thx.

  • Paul Burke

    PT Barnum of Barnum bailey circus coined the phrase theirs a sucker born ever minute…

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