Can the Palladium Travel club just refuse my refund like this?

Can the Palladium Travel Club change its terms?

Charles Berger’s dreams of a future filled with fun family vacations prompted him to invest in the Palladium Travel Club. But now those dreams have turned to nightmares as he tries to sift through all the additional fees and blackout dates. Will he ever be able to enjoy his “investment”?

Travel clubs have gained popularity in recent years. At the same time, they are earning the same negative reputation as their sibling, the timeshare. The two have striking similarities and we have seen identical complaints about each. There are hidden fees, unavailability, previously unmentioned blackout dates and difficulty in exiting the program

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Will Palladium Travel Club release him from his contract?

Berger contacted us because he wanted our help in forcing the club to release him from his membership. He listed his damages at over $12,000, and he already had filed a complaint with his credit card company.

Berger explains:

“I tried to book a room,” he says. “For example, I have attempted to use a free week but was told that my 4-year-old is $70 a day. The certificates now have blackout dates that I cannot use.”

Additionally, He had signed up for a membership with a “suite” size room. But now Palladium told him that it would need to book him into a smaller room because of his children.

“None of this is in the contract. In addition, the ‘special rates’ provided are more than if I just went on a site to book. I have not used anything from this travel club yet,” Berger told me. Now he just wanted out of his Palladium membership.

I can’t say that I blame him!

What a tangled mess! Berger had not been able to use his travel club membership even once. And he said that Palladium was putting up vacation roadblocks at every turn.

What is a travel club?

It seems that most travel clubs follow a business model that is nearly identical to that of a timeshare. In fact, it may even be reasonable to suggest that the travel club moniker was created because the timeshare name has become tarnished.

When is a timeshare not a timeshare? Answer: When you call it a travel club instead.

Travel clubs offer the buyer “member discounts” and “member perks” at resorts within the program’s network that supposedly are not available to nonmembers. However, the complaints that we see would indicate that these perks can be purchased by any paid customer regardless of their membership status.

Berger is not alone in his dissatisfaction with the reality of a travel club investment. A quick search on the internet or on the Elliott Advocacy site will reveal an endless supply of timeshare and travel club tales of woe (Post vacation regret: snagged in the old timeshare trap)

And in our own forums, we often see complaints from travelers who wish to be released from a travel club obligation.

So why do consumers continue to buy timeshares and vacation clubs?

It appears that for the most part, the high-pressure sales tactics of these companies work. They are designed to create a feeling of urgency and exclusivity for the prospective buyer.

Time and again, we see complaints that begin with “I felt pressured.”  Or “They told me I had to sign the deal immediately or it would become unavailable.” Under these conditions, a consumer often signs a contract without fully reading all its terms.

This move is a mistake. A big one.

Would you buy a house or a car without reading all the terms? I assume that most people would not. An investment in a travel club often involves thousands of dollars and long-term commitments. Further complicating matters, these contracts are often governed by the laws of foreign countries, such as Mexico. This type of obligation should not be entered into lightly.

However, while vacationing in a beautiful resort, far away from the pressures of home and work, inhibitions are lowered. Perhaps under the influence of one (or two) piña coladas, it is hard to imagine that the managers in these hard-sell presentations may not have your best interest at heart.

Travel clubs and timeshares are designed to make a consumer feel that they have purchased something tangible when the commodity often is quite vague. Frequently, once a buyer arrives home they begin to wonder what exactly they bought, and buyer’s remorse sets in.

Do your research on timeshares and vacation clubs before signing on that dotted line

They may research online and discover that the “club” is not providing anything more to them then they could have booked on their own or with a travel agent — sans membership.

Unfortunately, we also don’t frequently see a positive resolution to requests for help concerning timeshares or travel clubs. So when we first read Berger’s complaint, we were not very hopeful.

In his case, though, we have good news. Before he even had the chance to send us a copy of his contract, Palladium directly responded to his complaint.

“I just received a call from Palladium today,” he told me. “They stated that they would reimburse me — complete cancellation of the travel club membership and reimbursement of all payments paid.”

If you are interested in a timeshare or travel club, make sure that you do your research before you arrive at your destination. It is never a good idea to make a snap judgment about something that will affect your life for years to come.

There are many schemes and scams associated with these types of programs, and many have been proven to be outright frauds. It is imperative to check reviews and recommendations both online and in real life if you think a particular club is right for you.

Timeshares and travel clubs have their fans, but we know that these happy travelers are ones who have thoroughly researched their options and know exactly what they are purchasing. Remember, once you have signed a binding contract, there is very little that even the best consumer advocate can do for you. So know what you are committing to before you sign your name on that dotted line.

20 thoughts on “Can the Palladium Travel club just refuse my refund like this?

  1. I disagree with the notion that these timeshares/travel clubs are ‘investments’. Isn’t an investment something that pays you dividends/interest, etc?. Where is the return on investment? These are at best discount programs & at worst outright scams. Be careful with language, you can start to believe the poppycock these scammy salesmen spew to con consumers.
    For example buying a car is NOT an investment no matter what BS the salesman tries to present. You are purchasing a ‘durable consumer good’. ‘Investment’ in this case is a term for the weak minded.

    1. Well, an investment is anything with a (potential) return of some sort. That return does not have to be in cash, and the investment itself need not appreciate in value. Because I love car analogies: If you need a car in order to have a job, or so as to not hire Ubers to go everywhere, the return of owning a car is your paycheck, or all those fares.

      Even something like a TV can be an investment, if it means you’ll go the the movies less. An investment doesn’t even need to be durable; you can invest in having an accountant do your taxes, it frees up your time or maybe produces a bigger refund.

      I’m not saying that travel clubs or timeshares are GOOD investments (they aren’t), just that your view of what qualifies as an investment is too narrow.

        1. When determining a return on investment, opportunity costs and gains are just as real as stock dividends, even if they can be more difficult to quantify.

    2. Not all investments appreciate, you want to think and hope they do, but some depreciate and some go bust. I generally agree with your position on a car, but I also know many people that a car is not a financial investment for them but an investment in their time, they would spend a lot more time commuting without a car that allows them to invest their time in more productive pursuits. Vehicles can also be a financial investment, look at the McLaren F1.

      Travel clubs aren’t any of those the only travel club worthy of membership is COSTCO, everything else is just a scam. Cash always buys better amenities than “membership”.

    3. the best travel clubs are either free or have very low costs. Mine is AUD$44(USD$33) a year & is for ex airline, travel & other associated persons.

  2. I have never thought joining a travel club or timeshare is something I am interested in. I am glad the OP is getting a refund. It is interesting that they would charge $70 a day for a four year old. If it is adults only, it should be adults only. If children are allowed, it should not be punitive in cost.

    1. I have to disagree, I can understand why you’d charge extra for children, for the same reason some properties requires deposits for pets, except the pets are generally better behaved. Children always cause added expense.

      1. They could charge more for children if it was an “all inclusive” resort. Many of these are time shares.

  3. Hi-pressure? Sign IMMEDIATELY? My response: GOODBYE! ADIOS!
    “But you will lose out!” “But YOU can jump in the lake!” ha ha ha ha ha!

  4. The clubs will exist only so long as people keep buying these things. I suppose there could be a law that requires a week before the consumer may sign, but that seems so big brother. Also, most of these are signed on holiday so….

  5. I don’t doubt that there are a good number of travel clubs and time shares that are problems. I also believe that many people who buy into these clubs/time shares really don’t think them through or understand all the rules. But, not all time shares are bad. I have had Marriott time shares for almost 15 years and am very happy with them – and continue to use them each year with no problem. Their support is great. Know how the plans work, understand the rules, buy through a reputable organization and a good time share plan can be beneficial. They are definitely NOT an investment – you will be lucky to get your original money back when you sell them -the benefit of your investment is the use you get of great facilities over a period of time.

  6. I would never sign up for a timeshare or travel club, but one of my daughters did join one about 20 years ago. She has been able to use it pretty much without complaint all this time, so they can’t all be bad.

  7. Another story about travel clubs being a scam… gee, we’ve never seen this one before. Anything that mentions a timeshare, a vacation club, or a travel discount club, I avoid like somebody who hasn’t showered in three days or more. By the way, the guy lists his damages as $ 12,000. Assuming this club was such a great deal, how many vacations would you have to take to recoup the $ 12,000 or more you spent on it? Quite a lot I’d think.

  8. I’d be interested to hear more from anyone who actually has had a *positive* experience with a timeshare or travel club because I’ve yet to hear anything like that in any actual detail.

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