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	<title>Comments on: Socked for my friend&#8217;s single supplement</title>
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	<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/</link>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24186</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have often seen advertisements for trips that state the rate quoted is for double-occupancy. If two people book a trip with a double-occupancy rate and then one of the people cancels, then the double-occupancy rate no longer applies and the travel company is then entitled to the difference between the double-occupancy and single-occupancy rates. I don&#039;t see a problem here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have often seen advertisements for trips that state the rate quoted is for double-occupancy. If two people book a trip with a double-occupancy rate and then one of the people cancels, then the double-occupancy rate no longer applies and the travel company is then entitled to the difference between the double-occupancy and single-occupancy rates. I don&#8217;t see a problem here.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24177</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the insurance company reimbursed the traveler for his monies spent for the trip, didn&#039;t the travel company get to keep what they had already received? And if they DID get to keep the money, wouldn&#039;t the additional $375 be a case of them &quot;double dipping?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the insurance company reimbursed the traveler for his monies spent for the trip, didn&#8217;t the travel company get to keep what they had already received? And if they DID get to keep the money, wouldn&#8217;t the additional $375 be a case of them &#8220;double dipping?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24176</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 00:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most single supplements are garbage anyway.  It is not just them collecting a fair amount for the hotel room.  

I am a single traveler and most of the single rooms I get are substandard, even though I pay the suppliment.  Paying a single supplement does not, in any way, promise an equal room to those couples.

The single suppliment just gives more of a profit to those charging it.  

When I travell, I get room prices from the hotels that I stay in.  Often times, their walk in rate is much less than the rate being charged my the tour company, even before the suppliment.  I do not object when a company makes a fair profit but it is just like the airline baggage fees, scalp those that you can single out.  Most people will not object because they are not single.

I now travel with companies that do not charge the suppliment or who will charge me the actual room cost above what I have already paid.

The single suppliment is just another scam to get more money.  It does not cost more to put me in a single room and I use much less than most couples.  Less towels for the laundry, less hot water, less sheets , ect.  

Just another scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most single supplements are garbage anyway.  It is not just them collecting a fair amount for the hotel room.  </p>
<p>I am a single traveler and most of the single rooms I get are substandard, even though I pay the suppliment.  Paying a single supplement does not, in any way, promise an equal room to those couples.</p>
<p>The single suppliment just gives more of a profit to those charging it.  </p>
<p>When I travell, I get room prices from the hotels that I stay in.  Often times, their walk in rate is much less than the rate being charged my the tour company, even before the suppliment.  I do not object when a company makes a fair profit but it is just like the airline baggage fees, scalp those that you can single out.  Most people will not object because they are not single.</p>
<p>I now travel with companies that do not charge the suppliment or who will charge me the actual room cost above what I have already paid.</p>
<p>The single suppliment is just another scam to get more money.  It does not cost more to put me in a single room and I use much less than most couples.  Less towels for the laundry, less hot water, less sheets , ect.  </p>
<p>Just another scam.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24113</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I won&#039;t be using Overseas Adventure Travel after hearing this.</description>
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		<title>By: Monica</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24112</link>
		<dc:creator>Monica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 21:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;goodwill gesture&quot; definitely sounds like the company knows they were wrong and are trying to save face. If this was a non-refundable trip (even assuming no insurance), the company was already paid in full, so they had the money for a &quot;double occupancy&quot;. There should have been reason to try and charge them again. Too bad it took Chris to get things right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;goodwill gesture&#8221; definitely sounds like the company knows they were wrong and are trying to save face. If this was a non-refundable trip (even assuming no insurance), the company was already paid in full, so they had the money for a &#8220;double occupancy&#8221;. There should have been reason to try and charge them again. Too bad it took Chris to get things right.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24111</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone smell a rat at this company?  How can a company expect to be paid TWICE.  It was NOT refunding the money to the lady who canceled. The insurance company had that honors.  So why should Overseas Adventure Travel&#039;s be allowed to forcibly demand a person FORK OVER more money. I can fully understand it&#039;s singles policy. It&#039;s within their rights to do as they please. HOWEVER, a company who has been PAID IN FULL for both people cannot twist it&#039;s policy to demand additional payment.  Maybe this woman should look into reporting this company for fraud to her local attorney general.  Misunderstanding? I say not.  I call this a shady organization that was hoping it could milk some additional cash flow out of someone on the pretense of a threat (Pay or lose it all).

What do others think? If I were her, I would definitely be pursuing this matter even if I got a refund. How many others has it pulled this &quot;scam on&quot;.  It&#039;s one thing to pay for a singles trip and be single.  It&#039;s another to be paid in full for BOTH PEOPLE, then demand more money for a single&#039;s fee!!

Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone smell a rat at this company?  How can a company expect to be paid TWICE.  It was NOT refunding the money to the lady who canceled. The insurance company had that honors.  So why should Overseas Adventure Travel&#8217;s be allowed to forcibly demand a person FORK OVER more money. I can fully understand it&#8217;s singles policy. It&#8217;s within their rights to do as they please. HOWEVER, a company who has been PAID IN FULL for both people cannot twist it&#8217;s policy to demand additional payment.  Maybe this woman should look into reporting this company for fraud to her local attorney general.  Misunderstanding? I say not.  I call this a shady organization that was hoping it could milk some additional cash flow out of someone on the pretense of a threat (Pay or lose it all).</p>
<p>What do others think? If I were her, I would definitely be pursuing this matter even if I got a refund. How many others has it pulled this &#8220;scam on&#8221;.  It&#8217;s one thing to pay for a singles trip and be single.  It&#8217;s another to be paid in full for BOTH PEOPLE, then demand more money for a single&#8217;s fee!!</p>
<p>Justin</p>
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		<title>By: KathyJ</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24104</link>
		<dc:creator>KathyJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Overseas Adventure Travel has a policy that a single traveler gets hit with additional fees even if they received full payment from the second person? Crazy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Overseas Adventure Travel has a policy that a single traveler gets hit with additional fees even if they received full payment from the second person? Crazy!</p>
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		<title>By: AspenDew</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24103</link>
		<dc:creator>AspenDew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Goodwill Gesture&quot; usually translates into &quot;We know we screwed up, but we&#039;re not going to admit it. But since we really want you to shut up about it before it costs us any more bad publicity, here&#039;s a little token of our desperation.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Goodwill Gesture&#8221; usually translates into &#8220;We know we screwed up, but we&#8217;re not going to admit it. But since we really want you to shut up about it before it costs us any more bad publicity, here&#8217;s a little token of our desperation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sirwired</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/the-troubleshooter/socked-for-my-friends-single-supplement/comment-page-1/#comment-24102</link>
		<dc:creator>sirwired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we need more information here... If the trip was non-refundable by the operator, then a single supplement should not have been needed.  Instead, don&#039;t cancel, just fail to show up.  I can&#039;t imagine they would charge a single supplement on top of the whole fare they are getting for somebody not actually there.

If the trip was refundable, things do get a bit tricky.  I don&#039;t know of any travel insurance policies that cover the single supplement for a traveling companion.  On the other hand, most insurance policies do cover the illness of a travelling companion, meaning the friend could have cancelled her trip and received her money back, assuming the friend also had insurance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we need more information here&#8230; If the trip was non-refundable by the operator, then a single supplement should not have been needed.  Instead, don&#8217;t cancel, just fail to show up.  I can&#8217;t imagine they would charge a single supplement on top of the whole fare they are getting for somebody not actually there.</p>
<p>If the trip was refundable, things do get a bit tricky.  I don&#8217;t know of any travel insurance policies that cover the single supplement for a traveling companion.  On the other hand, most insurance policies do cover the illness of a travelling companion, meaning the friend could have cancelled her trip and received her money back, assuming the friend also had insurance.</p>
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