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	<title>Comments on: Our own worst enemy: 5 types of travelers that are killing tourism</title>
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		<title>By: CK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general, I agree with leaving ercole&#039;s rant alone.  

However, he brought up a point I&#039;ve heard over and over again, particularly from Europeans.  What the heck do they have against white sneakers?  Would they be better if they were red or black or brown?

To an American eye (mine, at least), white sneakers look crisp and clean.  When tromping around day after day looking at sites, on hard cobbled and stone streets, sneakers are just more comfortable for doing more walking than most of us are used to.  I suspect most day-to-day sneakers sold here are white, precisely because they look crisp and clean.

So why the disdain for white sneakers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, I agree with leaving ercole&#8217;s rant alone.  </p>
<p>However, he brought up a point I&#8217;ve heard over and over again, particularly from Europeans.  What the heck do they have against white sneakers?  Would they be better if they were red or black or brown?</p>
<p>To an American eye (mine, at least), white sneakers look crisp and clean.  When tromping around day after day looking at sites, on hard cobbled and stone streets, sneakers are just more comfortable for doing more walking than most of us are used to.  I suspect most day-to-day sneakers sold here are white, precisely because they look crisp and clean.</p>
<p>So why the disdain for white sneakers?</p>
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		<title>By: carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it&#039;s all good. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it&#8217;s all good. :)</p>
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		<title>By: sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would absolutely be bad manners, and I would never consider it. I was referring to only speak to the cruise line themselves, never to an individual.  My main concern is for vacationers who use vacation as an excuse to be wasteful, which isn&#039;t really what this article is about at all...;) sorry for the tangent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would absolutely be bad manners, and I would never consider it. I was referring to only speak to the cruise line themselves, never to an individual.  My main concern is for vacationers who use vacation as an excuse to be wasteful, which isn&#8217;t really what this article is about at all&#8230;;) sorry for the tangent.</p>
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		<title>By: carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 23:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@sven

II&#039;m not convinced.  By calling it disgusting, I &#039;m hearing a more emotional, judgmental position that factual.   Secondly, unless you are watching the person through the entire meal, you actually only know that they took a loot of food. You don&#039;t know whether it was wasted or consumed.  Moreover, unless their actions caused the cruise ship to cook more food, then the left over food on the buffet would go to waste anyway.   I was friends with a restaurant owner.  They through away tons of food.  They let the staff take home what they wanted, but most of the leftover found its way into the trash.

But in any event, I think the environmental issue is a red herring.  It disturbs some folks that some others appear piggish, and thus the environmental issue is a rouse to pronounce judgment.

I submit that to go up to a perfect stranger and be the self-appointed food police would be bad manners in the extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@sven</p>
<p>II&#8217;m not convinced.  By calling it disgusting, I &#8216;m hearing a more emotional, judgmental position that factual.   Secondly, unless you are watching the person through the entire meal, you actually only know that they took a loot of food. You don&#8217;t know whether it was wasted or consumed.  Moreover, unless their actions caused the cruise ship to cook more food, then the left over food on the buffet would go to waste anyway.   I was friends with a restaurant owner.  They through away tons of food.  They let the staff take home what they wanted, but most of the leftover found its way into the trash.</p>
<p>But in any event, I think the environmental issue is a red herring.  It disturbs some folks that some others appear piggish, and thus the environmental issue is a rouse to pronounce judgment.</p>
<p>I submit that to go up to a perfect stranger and be the self-appointed food police would be bad manners in the extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Carver:
When your decision effects other people, it becomes very hard to &quot;move on.&quot; Watching people waste food is not only disgusting, but it drives up the cost of travel, and puts an unnecessary pressure on our already delicate eco system. Being on vacation doesn&#039;t give you a license to be a wasteful pig.  Unfortunately, the few do ruin it for everyone, and they should be held accountable when such acts occur. Instead of just watching these acts place, we shouldn&#039;t be afraid to take a stand and say something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Carver:<br />
When your decision effects other people, it becomes very hard to &#8220;move on.&#8221; Watching people waste food is not only disgusting, but it drives up the cost of travel, and puts an unnecessary pressure on our already delicate eco system. Being on vacation doesn&#8217;t give you a license to be a wasteful pig.  Unfortunately, the few do ruin it for everyone, and they should be held accountable when such acts occur. Instead of just watching these acts place, we shouldn&#8217;t be afraid to take a stand and say something.</p>
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		<title>By: Sven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, how come you feel the need to say that these travelers &quot;are and aren&#039;t&quot; ruining it for everyone when they clearly are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, how come you feel the need to say that these travelers &#8220;are and aren&#8217;t&#8221; ruining it for everyone when they clearly are?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the issue with American tourists is that Americans, by nature, are generally pretty exuberant compared to Europeans or Asians. Also, Americans travel a lot less than almost every other developed nation. The figure has probably changed since passports were needed for Canada etc... but in 2006 75% of Australians had passports compared to only about 33% of Americans. My figures may be off, but it was an amazing difference. Americans in America are incredibly insulated from societal norms in other countries and that coupled with rare exposure...

I say this as a foreigner who has chosen to live in the US because its such a great place filled with wonderful people. But American tourists certainly do have a serious image problem- when I left my home country the people who had been to the US told me how much I&#039;d love it, the people who hadn&#039;t told me I was insane.

At any rate, just wait until the middle class of China starts travelling en masse like the Japanese in the 1980s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the issue with American tourists is that Americans, by nature, are generally pretty exuberant compared to Europeans or Asians. Also, Americans travel a lot less than almost every other developed nation. The figure has probably changed since passports were needed for Canada etc&#8230; but in 2006 75% of Australians had passports compared to only about 33% of Americans. My figures may be off, but it was an amazing difference. Americans in America are incredibly insulated from societal norms in other countries and that coupled with rare exposure&#8230;</p>
<p>I say this as a foreigner who has chosen to live in the US because its such a great place filled with wonderful people. But American tourists certainly do have a serious image problem- when I left my home country the people who had been to the US told me how much I&#8217;d love it, the people who hadn&#8217;t told me I was insane.</p>
<p>At any rate, just wait until the middle class of China starts travelling en masse like the Japanese in the 1980s.</p>
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		<title>By: marie aurore</title>
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		<dc:creator>marie aurore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im just a french travel agent reading your reactions...
yes, the travel agent in France is in charge of notification visa requierements for travelers on all over the word, we have to check passport validity and healthy mandatory for foreign country.
What I think about the second point (all-can-you-eat buffet), in fact it&#039;s an economic issue and the problem to mix cast depends of education no more...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im just a french travel agent reading your reactions&#8230;<br />
yes, the travel agent in France is in charge of notification visa requierements for travelers on all over the word, we have to check passport validity and healthy mandatory for foreign country.<br />
What I think about the second point (all-can-you-eat buffet), in fact it&#8217;s an economic issue and the problem to mix cast depends of education no more&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:buffets and other atrocities

My question would be, why do we even care how much food someone takes from the buffet?

Have we really gotten to the point, where we are so jaded and self-righteous that we feel the need to critique everyone who acts differently that us.  We worry about how much food someone takes, what they are wearing, how they talk.

Why can&#039;t we just accept other&#039;s differences and quirks and move on?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:buffets and other atrocities</p>
<p>My question would be, why do we even care how much food someone takes from the buffet?</p>
<p>Have we really gotten to the point, where we are so jaded and self-righteous that we feel the need to critique everyone who acts differently that us.  We worry about how much food someone takes, what they are wearing, how they talk.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we just accept other&#8217;s differences and quirks and move on?</p>
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		<title>By: John Stone</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One observation in fairness to some tourists behaving badly , Chris, is there are times when they are unfortunately reacting to travel employees also behaving badly. For example, I think one of the great untruths is the idea that &quot;there are no stupid questions if people are confused.&quot; For inexperienced travelers the right place to go or thing to do may be unclear and so they ask a question. A travel employee, as I have personally seen, may react negatively to this and give a rude or condescending answer. This can lead to bad  tourist behavior in reaction.

I think one of the most important things experienced travelers and travel employees can do is really help the inexperienced who don&#039;t know the ropes at an airport, on a cruise, or wherever some guidance at times is needed, In this economy and this industry, we should all be helping each other as much as possible. Good, or at least better, behavior might even happen as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One observation in fairness to some tourists behaving badly , Chris, is there are times when they are unfortunately reacting to travel employees also behaving badly. For example, I think one of the great untruths is the idea that &#8220;there are no stupid questions if people are confused.&#8221; For inexperienced travelers the right place to go or thing to do may be unclear and so they ask a question. A travel employee, as I have personally seen, may react negatively to this and give a rude or condescending answer. This can lead to bad  tourist behavior in reaction.</p>
<p>I think one of the most important things experienced travelers and travel employees can do is really help the inexperienced who don&#8217;t know the ropes at an airport, on a cruise, or wherever some guidance at times is needed, In this economy and this industry, we should all be helping each other as much as possible. Good, or at least better, behavior might even happen as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: David Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 02:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It is so easy to judge people and that is probably an ugly American trait too.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nah, that trait isn&#039;t exclusively American. I&#039;ve seen and heard people from other countries and cultures with that, too.

Just that some people find it conveniently easier to judge, rather than trying to understand certain things they don&#039;t even remotely comprehend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It is so easy to judge people and that is probably an ugly American trait too.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nah, that trait isn&#8217;t exclusively American. I&#8217;ve seen and heard people from other countries and cultures with that, too.</p>
<p>Just that some people find it conveniently easier to judge, rather than trying to understand certain things they don&#8217;t even remotely comprehend.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian Haugen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Haugen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seeing the stuff everyday.. Although I have been pleasantly surprised at times while on the trip Im currently on the horror stories of tourists I&#039;ve heard from Norway are just out of this league.. We have had tourists in Norway being dissapointed at the fact that the midnight sun is just our regular sun, not another sun in addition to the one they see everyday. Talk about having high expectations for Norway as a travel destination!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seeing the stuff everyday.. Although I have been pleasantly surprised at times while on the trip Im currently on the horror stories of tourists I&#8217;ve heard from Norway are just out of this league.. We have had tourists in Norway being dissapointed at the fact that the midnight sun is just our regular sun, not another sun in addition to the one they see everyday. Talk about having high expectations for Norway as a travel destination!</p>
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		<title>By: Lianne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We also rolled our eyes at some British tourists who were most unhappy that they couldn’t find “a proper English breakfast” until a fellow tourist pointed out the omelet station to them at the buffet. You’ve got tree-ripened oranges and field-ripened pineapples for the asking and you’ve just got to have a “fry up?”

Food is always a contentious point when traveling.  While I am a big believer in eating like a local when I can, I&#039;ve learned there are times my poor American stomch and taste buds can&#039;t handle food in some places (I really tried in New Delhi, I really tried). I just hope that my hosts there were not offended when I asked for a Domino&#039;s menu one night :-)

That said, if they were being obnoxious and snooty then I can see where that&#039;s a problem.

Interesting tibit about Venice too, I&#039;m hoping to head out there when I&#039;m done with grad school (2 years) and I was planning on trying to learn some basic Italian, though knowing me I&#039;ll offend them more my butchering their beautiful langauge :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We also rolled our eyes at some British tourists who were most unhappy that they couldn’t find “a proper English breakfast” until a fellow tourist pointed out the omelet station to them at the buffet. You’ve got tree-ripened oranges and field-ripened pineapples for the asking and you’ve just got to have a “fry up?”</p>
<p>Food is always a contentious point when traveling.  While I am a big believer in eating like a local when I can, I&#8217;ve learned there are times my poor American stomch and taste buds can&#8217;t handle food in some places (I really tried in New Delhi, I really tried). I just hope that my hosts there were not offended when I asked for a Domino&#8217;s menu one night :-)</p>
<p>That said, if they were being obnoxious and snooty then I can see where that&#8217;s a problem.</p>
<p>Interesting tibit about Venice too, I&#8217;m hoping to head out there when I&#8217;m done with grad school (2 years) and I was planning on trying to learn some basic Italian, though knowing me I&#8217;ll offend them more my butchering their beautiful langauge :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Eriskay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eriskay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone piling high the food on a cruise ship might be taking it back for elderly parents to eat, giving them an array of different foods to eat and hopefully getting them something they will enjoy.   I&#039;ve seen it on cruise ships with one person running around getting drinks, salads and deserts for the elderly.   It is so easy to judge people and that is probably an ugly American trait too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone piling high the food on a cruise ship might be taking it back for elderly parents to eat, giving them an array of different foods to eat and hopefully getting them something they will enjoy.   I&#8217;ve seen it on cruise ships with one person running around getting drinks, salads and deserts for the elderly.   It is so easy to judge people and that is probably an ugly American trait too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rednecks and boors live in every corner of the world. I&#039;ve seen them, and met a few of them. When my husband and I were in Aruba, we saw some Americans exhibiting behavior that made us cringe. We also rolled our eyes at some British tourists who were most unhappy that they couldn&#039;t find &quot;a proper English breakfast&quot; until a fellow tourist pointed out the omelet station to them at the buffet. You&#039;ve got tree-ripened oranges and field-ripened pineapples for the asking and you&#039;ve just got to have a &quot;fry up?&quot; Oh, mercy. 

Sadly, arrogant Americans are going to visit foreign countries. I might be in favor of the State Department administering an etiquette exam before issuing passports. LOL. It couldn&#039;t hurt. 

I&#039;ve said it before: good manners do not cost a dime, and the returns are priceless. You might not be able to speak the language, but a smile, and knowing &quot;please&quot; and &quot;thank you&quot; in that country&#039;s language will go a LONG way. I don&#039;t speak Papiemente, the Aruban island language, and nearly everyone in Aruba speaks excellent English (and Dutch, Spanish, French and German), but saying, &quot;Masha danke&quot; (thank you) made their faces light up, and let me know they appreciated the fact I was interested enough in their culture to at least learn a word or two of their lanaguage. From what I know of people who have traveled abroad, the natives might chuckle a little at our pronunciation, but they appreciate seeing us consult the phrasebook so we can communicate in their language. 

Simple good manners will stand you in good stead almost anywhere you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rednecks and boors live in every corner of the world. I&#8217;ve seen them, and met a few of them. When my husband and I were in Aruba, we saw some Americans exhibiting behavior that made us cringe. We also rolled our eyes at some British tourists who were most unhappy that they couldn&#8217;t find &#8220;a proper English breakfast&#8221; until a fellow tourist pointed out the omelet station to them at the buffet. You&#8217;ve got tree-ripened oranges and field-ripened pineapples for the asking and you&#8217;ve just got to have a &#8220;fry up?&#8221; Oh, mercy. </p>
<p>Sadly, arrogant Americans are going to visit foreign countries. I might be in favor of the State Department administering an etiquette exam before issuing passports. LOL. It couldn&#8217;t hurt. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve said it before: good manners do not cost a dime, and the returns are priceless. You might not be able to speak the language, but a smile, and knowing &#8220;please&#8221; and &#8220;thank you&#8221; in that country&#8217;s language will go a LONG way. I don&#8217;t speak Papiemente, the Aruban island language, and nearly everyone in Aruba speaks excellent English (and Dutch, Spanish, French and German), but saying, &#8220;Masha danke&#8221; (thank you) made their faces light up, and let me know they appreciated the fact I was interested enough in their culture to at least learn a word or two of their lanaguage. From what I know of people who have traveled abroad, the natives might chuckle a little at our pronunciation, but they appreciate seeing us consult the phrasebook so we can communicate in their language. </p>
<p>Simple good manners will stand you in good stead almost anywhere you go.</p>
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