Comments on: No more kids fly free? http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/ Consumer advocate Christopher Elliott's site. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: max buehler http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-90592 max buehler Sat, 31 Dec 2011 02:09:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-90592 I have a toddler, yeah it sucks flying with her she can't sit still. Though... people with kids who will sit still on a plane are the exception not the rule. Sorry, most kids have a lot of energy, might wanna get yours checked out if they're perfectly behaved, they're kids, they're supposed to be wanting to go go go. That's half the fun. I've sat on planes where the dude next to me smelled absolutely terrible, people couldn't stop farting, with obnoxious jersey bitches trying to talk my ear off about their family drama all sorts of BS. You know what I do? Bring headphones, take a xanax. Jesus christ how hard is it. Crying on the internet just makes you as bad as the toddler crying on the plane I have a toddler, yeah it sucks flying with her she can’t sit still. Though… people with kids who will sit still on a plane are the exception not the rule. Sorry, most kids have a lot of energy, might wanna get yours checked out if they’re perfectly behaved, they’re kids, they’re supposed to be wanting to go go go. That’s half the fun.

I’ve sat on planes where the dude next to me smelled absolutely terrible, people couldn’t stop farting, with obnoxious jersey bitches trying to talk my ear off about their family drama all sorts of BS. You know what I do?

Bring headphones, take a xanax. Jesus christ how hard is it. Crying on the internet just makes you as bad as the toddler crying on the plane

]]> By: jillc http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-87834 jillc Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:27:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-87834 I think that really fat people should have to pay more. I'm around 105lbs and my 14month old daughter is only 22lbs. So even together we weigh significantly less than some stinky morbidly obese dude whose fat rolls keep creeping toward me over the arm rest. He should have to pay more- he takes up more space and weighs the plane down more than my daughter and me.  I think that really fat people should have to pay more. I’m around 105lbs and my 14month old daughter is only 22lbs. So even together we weigh significantly less than some stinky morbidly obese dude whose fat rolls keep creeping toward me over the arm rest. He should have to pay more- he takes up more space and weighs the plane down more than my daughter and me. 

]]> By: Isabellesmommy72309 http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-84806 Isabellesmommy72309 Wed, 02 Nov 2011 04:20:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-84806  My daughter is great in my eyes but, I know when she is being annoying. However when I am mid-flight and my daughter takes a tantrum there is not much I can do. She is going to cry until she decides to stop and she is going to kick around until she calms down. I can show her movies on my lap top, feed her snacks, give her coloring books or read to her but in the end she doesn't understand to calm down. She is 2 years old and yea I bought her a ticket but just because I spent another 900 dollars to have her fly with me doesn't mean she is suddenly going to sit still for 12 hours and stay quiet. It doesn't mean I am not doing enough to keep her entertained or occupied and it doesn't mean I am not doing my best to keep her quiet. It simply means she is two years old and stuck sitting in a seat for 12 hours without stretching her legs or being able to truly play. Just because I had a child doesn't mean I shouldn't be allowed to travel with her and it certaintly doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to take her with me. Plain and simple EVERYONE posting on here about how parents have to pay for that and assuming people are bad parents because their kids cry needs to get their heads out of their ass and go buy a jet because kids won't be banned from your precious air space and if you piss off the parents taking care of the child their going to enjoy their child tormenting you. So I suggest you smile and appreciate we are doing our best and we will continue to do so to the best of our ability when we are strapped in a seat 30,000 feet in the air. It's not like we can put our kids in time out so please do tell me how you would reprimand a 2 year old for getting stressed out in a seat at 30,000 feet? I am dying to know,  My daughter is great in my eyes but, I know when she is being annoying. However when I am mid-flight and my daughter takes a tantrum there is not much I can do. She is going to cry until she decides to stop and she is going to kick around until she calms down. I can show her movies on my lap top, feed her snacks, give her coloring books or read to her but in the end she doesn’t understand to calm down. She is 2 years old and yea I bought her a ticket but just because I spent another 900 dollars to have her fly with me doesn’t mean she is suddenly going to sit still for 12 hours and stay quiet. It doesn’t mean I am not doing enough to keep her entertained or occupied and it doesn’t mean I am not doing my best to keep her quiet. It simply means she is two years old and stuck sitting in a seat for 12 hours without stretching her legs or being able to truly play. Just because I had a child doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be allowed to travel with her and it certaintly doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be able to take her with me. Plain and simple EVERYONE posting on here about how parents have to pay for that and assuming people are bad parents because their kids cry needs to get their heads out of their ass and go buy a jet because kids won’t be banned from your precious air space and if you piss off the parents taking care of the child their going to enjoy their child tormenting you. So I suggest you smile and appreciate we are doing our best and we will continue to do so to the best of our ability when we are strapped in a seat 30,000 feet in the air. It’s not like we can put our kids in time out so please do tell me how you would reprimand a 2 year old for getting stressed out in a seat at 30,000 feet? I am dying to know,

]]> By: Isabellesmommy72309 http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-84805 Isabellesmommy72309 Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:58:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-84805 Sadly I just read this and wasted a full five minutes of my night. Whether I am buying a ticket for my two year old or just having her sit on my lap she is not going to want to sit still or be quiet. Children are naturally curious therefore they are all over the place. Don't like it ask for a different seat or suffer plain and simple! Sadly I just read this and wasted a full five minutes of my night. Whether I am buying a ticket for my two year old or just having her sit on my lap she is not going to want to sit still or be quiet. Children are naturally curious therefore they are all over the place. Don’t like it ask for a different seat or suffer plain and simple!

]]> By: greg http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-80672 greg Sat, 17 Sep 2011 16:26:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-80672 I think it's good business for airlines to offer discounted child fares, which seem all but extinct now. After all, it's not half price, it's buy one, get one half price. It's not a matter of entitlement or wanting something for nothing. It's a bulk purchase, and a play to retain customers and keeping them travelling by air through out their lifecycles. The total price for flying a family around can quickly becomes so prohibitive that families travel by car, or travel less frequently. Despite having in-laws in Asia we are obligated to visit, I did as much air travel on my own before marriage and a child than the three of us now do combined. In addition to cost, there is the difficulty of traveling with a child, and stress of keeping a child happy in flight. Strangers fawn over her around town, but she becomes a pariah as soon as I board a plane. Also, lap children may be less safe than those in their own seats, but they are safe than a child traveling by car, which is why FAA tolerates it. I think it’s good business for airlines to offer discounted child fares, which seem all but extinct now. After all, it’s not half price, it’s buy one, get one half price. It’s not a matter of entitlement or wanting something for nothing. It’s a bulk purchase, and a play to retain customers and keeping them travelling by air through out their lifecycles. The total price for flying a family around can quickly becomes so prohibitive that families travel by car, or travel less frequently. Despite having in-laws in Asia we are obligated to visit, I did as much air travel on my own before marriage and a child than the three of us now do combined. In addition to cost, there is the difficulty of traveling with a child, and stress of keeping a child happy in flight. Strangers fawn over her around town, but she becomes a pariah as soon as I board a plane.

Also, lap children may be less safe than those in their own seats, but they are safe than a child traveling by car, which is why FAA tolerates it.

]]> By: Angela Pokorn http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-80568 Angela Pokorn Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:01:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-80568 I fly frequently internationally and domestically with my 1 year old and 3 year old kids. It is a part of our lifestyle that we chose not to give up when we had kids. Now, we buy a ticket for our 3 year old, but we have never had problems with them as lap children. I have even flown by myself with both kids a few times. We pack special airplane gift backpacks for them with quiet toys, and we let them know our expectations. We have received compliments on every flight we have been on from other passengers, flight attendants, and even pilots. Our kids are special to us, but the are just regular kids with regular kid behavior problems, but we understand while flying, much like being in church or a nice restaurant, it is our job to be proactive and ensure they are not disruptive for the other passengers. I believe it is not the kids flying in laps or their own seats that are the problem, but parents not parenting adequately.  I fly frequently internationally and domestically with my 1 year old and 3 year old kids. It is a part of our lifestyle that we chose not to give up when we had kids. Now, we buy a ticket for our 3 year old, but we have never had problems with them as lap children. I have even flown by myself with both kids a few times. We pack special airplane gift backpacks for them with quiet toys, and we let them know our expectations. We have received compliments on every flight we have been on from other passengers, flight attendants, and even pilots. Our kids are special to us, but the are just regular kids with regular kid behavior problems, but we understand while flying, much like being in church or a nice restaurant, it is our job to be proactive and ensure they are not disruptive for the other passengers. I believe it is not the kids flying in laps or their own seats that are the problem, but parents not parenting adequately. 

]]> By: Flying Parent http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-79465 Flying Parent Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:07:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-79465 You are really comparing a cat to a child? It is pathetic enough that you travel with your cat. It's not the problem of the people around you to have to deal with your cat. What if it starts to meow or better yet, what if someone is allergic? Why don't you just drive? That way only you will enjoy the presence of you fur ball! Your argument became ridiculous the moment you tried to introduce your cat to prove your point. Something is intolerable so long as it's not something you care about. When it's your cat though, everyone else has to deal because it's important to you.As for paying, I think people feel misled to be told your child flys free only to discover that is if they take the risk of them becoming a projectile in an emergency. A full adult fare is crazy, the seat is occupied yes but, it is the weight of the plane that matters. Less weight (i. e. an infant) is a cost savings. In fact one might even argue the airline is getting better value for that seat as it is costing them less to get airborn and may (not always the case) have little checked luggage associated with it. Not to mention the fact that the seat is being purchased along with those of the parent(s). Are you giving them 3 purchased seats worth of business by travelling with them? As for paying, I think people feel misled to be told your child flys free only to discover that is if they take the risk of them becoming a projectile in an emergency. A full adult fare is crazy, the seat is occupied yes but, it is the weight of the plane that matters. Less weight (i. e. an infant) is a cost savings. In fact one might even argue the airline is getting better value for that seat as it is costing them less to get airborn and may (not always the case) have little checked luggage associated with it. Not to mention the fact that the seat is being purchased along with those of the parent(s). Are you giving them 3 purchased seats worth of business by travelling with them? You are really comparing a cat to a child? It is
pathetic enough that you travel with your cat. It’s not the problem of the
people around you to have to deal with your cat. What if it starts to meow or
better yet, what if someone is allergic? Why don’t you just drive? That way
only you will enjoy the presence of you fur ball! Your argument became
ridiculous the moment you tried to introduce your cat to prove your point.
Something is intolerable so long as it’s not something you care about. When
it’s your cat though, everyone else has to deal because it’s important to you.As for paying, I think people feel misled to be told your child flys free only to discover that is if they take the risk of them becoming a projectile in an emergency. A full adult fare is crazy, the seat is occupied yes but, it is the weight of the plane that matters. Less weight (i. e. an infant) is a cost savings. In fact one might even argue the airline is getting better value for that seat as it is costing them less to get airborn and may (not always the case) have little checked luggage associated with it. Not to mention the fact that the seat is being purchased along with those of the parent(s). Are you giving them 3 purchased seats worth of business by travelling with them?
As for paying, I think people feel misled to be told your child flys free only to discover that is if they take the risk of them becoming a projectile in an emergency. A full adult fare is crazy, the seat is occupied yes but, it is the weight of the plane that matters. Less weight (i. e. an infant) is a cost savings. In fact one might even argue the airline is getting better value for that seat as it is costing them less to get airborn and may (not always the case) have little checked luggage associated with it. Not to mention the fact that the seat is being purchased along with those of the parent(s). Are you giving them 3 purchased seats worth of business by travelling with them?

]]> By: Flying Parent http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-79466 Flying Parent Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:07:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-79466 You are really comparing a cat to a child? It is pathetic enough that you travel with your cat. It's not the problem of the people around you to have to deal with your cat. What if it starts to meow or better yet, what if someone is allergic? Why don't you just drive? That way only you will enjoy the presence of you fur ball! Your argument became ridiculous the moment you tried to introduce your cat to prove your point. Something is intolerable so long as it's not something you care about. When it's your cat though, everyone else has to deal because it's important to you.As for paying, I think people feel misled to be told your child flys free only to discover that is if they take the risk of them becoming a projectile in an emergency. A full adult fare is crazy, the seat is occupied yes but, it is the weight of the plane that matters. Less weight (i. e. an infant) is a cost savings. In fact one might even argue the airline is getting better value for that seat as it is costing them less to get airborn and may (not always the case) have little checked luggage associated with it. Not to mention the fact that the seat is being purchased along with those of the parent(s). Are you giving them 3 purchased seats worth of business by travelling with them? As for paying, I think people feel misled to be told your child flys free only to discover that is if they take the risk of them becoming a projectile in an emergency. A full adult fare is crazy, the seat is occupied yes but, it is the weight of the plane that matters. Less weight (i. e. an infant) is a cost savings. In fact one might even argue the airline is getting better value for that seat as it is costing them less to get airborn and may (not always the case) have little checked luggage associated with it. Not to mention the fact that the seat is being purchased along with those of the parent(s). Are you giving them 3 purchased seats worth of business by travelling with them? You are really comparing a cat to a child? It is
pathetic enough that you travel with your cat. It’s not the problem of the
people around you to have to deal with your cat. What if it starts to meow or
better yet, what if someone is allergic? Why don’t you just drive? That way
only you will enjoy the presence of you fur ball! Your argument became
ridiculous the moment you tried to introduce your cat to prove your point.
Something is intolerable so long as it’s not something you care about. When
it’s your cat though, everyone else has to deal because it’s important to you.As for paying, I think people feel misled to be told your child flys free only to discover that is if they take the risk of them becoming a projectile in an emergency. A full adult fare is crazy, the seat is occupied yes but, it is the weight of the plane that matters. Less weight (i. e. an infant) is a cost savings. In fact one might even argue the airline is getting better value for that seat as it is costing them less to get airborn and may (not always the case) have little checked luggage associated with it. Not to mention the fact that the seat is being purchased along with those of the parent(s). Are you giving them 3 purchased seats worth of business by travelling with them?
As for paying, I think people feel misled to be told your child flys free only to discover that is if they take the risk of them becoming a projectile in an emergency. A full adult fare is crazy, the seat is occupied yes but, it is the weight of the plane that matters. Less weight (i. e. an infant) is a cost savings. In fact one might even argue the airline is getting better value for that seat as it is costing them less to get airborn and may (not always the case) have little checked luggage associated with it. Not to mention the fact that the seat is being purchased along with those of the parent(s). Are you giving them 3 purchased seats worth of business by travelling with them?

]]> By: Me http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-78572 Me Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:18:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-78572 Im right with you on this cause im very strict with my children also and sometimes how can i put it kids will be kids Im right with you on this cause im very strict with my children also and sometimes how can i put it kids will be kids

]]> By: Keeping it real http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-78571 Keeping it real Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:16:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-78571 why should mothers or even fathers have to take a bus when a plane gets us where we need to get faster.....you get over it every where you go your going to come across children whether you like it or not. I think all yous adults need to get over it how can ya even think about putting your capacity with that of a child. Even adults get anxious to get to where they need to be so imagine a child. With that being said Im done why should mothers or even fathers have to take a bus when a plane gets us where we need to get faster…..you get over it every where you go your going to come across children whether you like it or not. I think all yous adults need to get over it how can ya even think about putting your capacity with that of a child. Even adults get anxious to get to where they need to be so imagine a child.

With that being said Im done

]]> By: ME!!! Get over it :P http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-78569 ME!!! Get over it :P Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:12:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-78569 i second that :P i second that :P

]]> By: who cares http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-78565 who cares Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:54:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-78565 honestly in my opinion i have 3 kids and my 2 year old daughter wouldnt stay still even if she had her own seat so why not save a few bucks and let her squirm on my lap shes going to do it in her own seat wither way honestly in my opinion i have 3 kids and my 2 year old daughter wouldnt stay still even if she had her own seat so why not save a few bucks and let her squirm on my lap shes going to do it in her own seat wither way

]]> By: who cares http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-78566 who cares Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:54:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-78566 honestly in my opinion i have 3 kids and my 2 year old daughter wouldnt stay still even if she had her own seat so why not save a few bucks and let her squirm on my lap shes going to do it in her own seat wither way honestly in my opinion i have 3 kids and my 2 year old daughter wouldnt stay still even if she had her own seat so why not save a few bucks and let her squirm on my lap shes going to do it in her own seat wither way

]]> By: Lala2011 http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-78563 Lala2011 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:45:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-78563 IF something is going to happen its going to happen whether your child is in there own seat or not IF something is going to happen its going to happen whether your child is in there own seat or not

]]> By: Demi http://www.elliott.org/the-travel-critic/no-more-kids-fly-free/comment-page-1/#comment-78562 Demi Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:43:00 +0000 http://beta.elliott.org/photos/no-more-kids-fly-free/#comment-78562 I agree 100% with your comment you couldnt have said it better I agree 100% with your comment you couldnt have said it better

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