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Travelocity’s Mahl: “In a perfect world, a guarantee like ours wouldn’t be necessary”

August 28, 2009

GinnyMahl_082609Ginny Mahl is Travelocity’s vice president of sales and customer service — the woman behind the online travel agency’s vaunted Travelocity Guarantee. I asked Mahl about getting the best customer service from a travel Web site, and how her company is doing its part.

Travelocity seems to be doing well despite a depressed travel industry. How has good customer service contributed to your company’s recent performance?

Thanks, Chris, for the vote of confidence. Our customer service team has come a long way since introducing the Travelocity Guarantee four years ago and by remaining committed to its principles, I think we’ve helped the company’s bottom line. Plus, our ongoing investment in training our agents on how to best support customers through all kinds of scenarios has paid dividends.


Has your approach to customer service changed during the travel downturn? And if so, how?

Our overall approach hasn’t changed. We have, however, taken this opportunity to make sure that we are smarter than ever with our resources. We have continued to invest and are making changes that will assure that the first agent the customer talks to resolves their issue. We are also providing agents with more information about the customer to expedite resolution.

We’ve also looked at how we can be smarter about how we service customers based on their specific situation. For example, we prioritize routing and handling for customers who are mid-trip or are departing in less than 48 hours since their needs are often more urgent. Finally, we’ve invested in more self-service capabilities like voids for flight bookings, which provide our customers different channel options for service and also helps us be more efficient.

I like the idea behind the Travelocity Guarantee, which promises you’ll look out for your customers “all trip long.” But I’ve always wondered: is there a limit to what you can do?

There are, of course, situations that are beyond our control like a canceled flight due to a mechanical issue, changes made to a flight schedule, or a hotel overselling its inventory. But even in all of these instances we remain committed to working with our suppliers to get our customer the best possible resolution. And because of our size and our solid relationships with suppliers throughout the industry, the chances of us finding a stranded customer an alternative flight or hotel room will always be good.

Some have pointed out that a “guarantee” shouldn’t even be necessary. They say customers should expect that kind of service from a full-service agency. What do you think?

I agree that in a perfect world, a guarantee like ours wouldn’t be necessary. But since not all travel companies offer the same level of service, we felt the Guarantee was an effective way for us to message the differences we provide to our customers like our 24/7 business hours, proactive care, and our popular 24 hour void policy on standalone flights.

What advantage does Travelocity have over its competitors, in terms of customer service? How about over travel agents?

We’ve spent several years in creating a culture around the entire company dedicated to supporting and fulfilling the Travelocity Guarantee. This, in my opinion, is unique amongst our peer set.

I also feel that we stand out when it comes to proactive customer care. Once you’ve booked on Travelocity, we start the process of watching out for you by constantly monitoring weather events, industry changes, regulatory changes, or local incidents that might impact your travel and make sure we alert our travelers when necessary. Thousands of customers benefit each year from this notification process. Last week during Hurricane Bill, we were ready to contact our customers holding reservations within the strike zone and posted updated supplier policies on our site and links via Twitter all weekend long.

Like many online agents, but not all bricks-and-mortar agents, we offer 24/7 customer service. And travelers should also keep in mind that we offer and service many different kinds of travel. This ranges from the basics like standalone airline tickets and hotel rooms, to full all-inclusive packages with activities, or even a European cruise for a group or large family.

We also are able to offer the innovative tools for dreaming and planning your next trip. Our Experience Finder tool lets consumers dream about different kinds of trips online and save that information into a Wish List they can use when they’re ready to book.

I’ve noticed a lot of simple booking errors lately by Travelocity customers — wrong names, incorrect dates. What kind of safeguards does Travelocity have in place to prevent those kinds of mistakes from happening?

We provide multiple review opportunities throughout the booking path for customers to check that they have entered their information correctly. For a flight booking we provide a full recap showing the details of the customer’s selected itinerary immediately prior to beginning checkout and again before submitting their credit card information.

Within our checkout path we allow customers to store their travel details such as traveler name, phone numbers, and address information within their profile to avoid have to re-enter them for each reservation, minimizing the likelihood of errors and speeding up the checkout process for them.

We conduct regular usability studies to ensure that we are making it as easy as possibly for customers to enter their information correctly. We monitor both incidents reported by our call centers and also regularly have our product teams listen directly to customer calls to identify any recurring issues and make site changes as necessary.

All that said, we know that errors will inadvertently occur when customers enter their travel information. In instances where customers discover they have made an error with the name on their reservation, we will work with the airline to try and correct their reservation. Most airlines distinguish between name changes, which are generally never permitted, and name corrections which some airlines allow limited changes although the precise outcome depends carrier by carrier, based on the specific policies that they choose to impose.

Once someone makes a mistake, how are you helping them fix it without spending a lot of money? I’m thinking of people who are told that they have to buy a new ticket because their first name is “Bob” instead of “Robert.”

We are required to follow the airline ticketing and purchase requirements dictated by the airlines and the TSA for the United States. We don’t specify these requirements, but we do provide links during the purchase process to specific fare rules and requirements. When customers find themselves in a situation like this, we work with each airline’s rules and processes to address name corrections, when necessary. As I mentioned in the previous question, each airline handles the process a little differently and, admittedly, many are more restrictive than consumers would prefer. Some, too, require an additional fee. We will assist the customer through the correction process, if it’s applicable and possible in their specific situation.

We have continued, even throughout the downturn, to offer our 24-hour void policy on standalone flights. This really helps customers who accidentally make a booking mistake, but recognize it as soon as they review their confirmation email. It’s really important for all customers to verify the final itinerary selection before booking, and also to carefully review and check their confirmation page or email once they’ve completed a purchase.

Let me ask you about ticket refunds, if I may. Here’s a question I get a lot: If I buy a ticket through an online agency like Travelocity, my flight is canceled and I’m owed a refund, why should I have to wait two billing cycles to get my money back? Why can’t an agency like Travelocity refund my money right away?

When you purchase most standalone airline tickets through Travelocity, we are acting as an agency, rather than the merchant of record. If the customer looks closely at their credit card statement, they’ll see that the merchant actually charging for the ticket price was in almost all cases the airline. If the customer is later eligible for a refund, we process that request according to the airline’s required process. Sometimes those processes take a few days, and sometimes a few weeks. Depending on the customers’ individual billing closing dates, it may take two cycles for that to appear on their monthly statement since the next statement may have a closing date prior to the resolution of the refund process.

For purchases such as prepaid hotel reservations or vacation packages where Travelocity is the merchant for the sale, if a refund is necessary, we typically process those within an average of three to five days.

When should a traveler not book online, in your opinion?

Good question! I generally think the additional flexibility, choice, and control that online shopping and booking provides a traveler has transformed the customer experience. In that, Travelocity’s launch in 1996 was truly revolutionary. Consumers have more information than ever before at their fingertips.

If the customer feels more comfortable talking with someone about their travel plans, I would encourage them to consider Travelocity’s own travel consultants, who are trained on many destinations, and can be very helpful. Over the years, these agents have booked many five-figure vacation packages and cruises without a hitch.

While I am, of course, an unabashed advocate of our services, I also maintain that there is still a place for traditional travel agents, particularly those that have carved out a niche, like adventure travel. Depending upon the traveler and their needs, a face-to-face meeting with such a consultant could be wise though, of course, higher fees will apply.

Christopher Elliott is the author of Scammed: How to Save Your Money and Find Better Service in a World of Schemes, Swindles, and Shady Deals. Critics have called it “eye-opening” and “inspiring” — it’ll “grab your attention and won’t let go.” Order your copy now on Amazon, Barnes & Noble or iTunes.

14 comments

  • Jasper

    Chris: I like these interviews, but I think you can ask better questions, more related to the problems that you signal as travel ombudsman. Currently, these interviews end up being utter promo-talks.

  • Christopher Elliott

    That’s one of the purposes of these Q&A interviews — to give the company a chance to tell its side of the story. I expect the answers to be a little promotional. But you’ll also note several question about recent customer-service problems, too.

    As I mentioned in comments after last week’s Cheapoair interview, I think it’s impolite to ask a series of entirely negative questions. I’m not sure I could get anyone to answer those even if I tried.

  • Justin

    Jasper,

    I agree too with these Q & A sessions. They seem to highlight 99 percent positives without asking meaningful specifics.

    Chris, just a suggestion, but maybe it’s all about the wording on whether or not you get an answer. For instance, if you take it in a non confrontational tone, people might be more apt to give a response.

    Here’s one way to ask something that gives them a chance to “reflect without attacking”.

    For instance, being a travel Ombudsman, I have heard cases where the Travelocity Guarantee has not always been successful. One instance would be…. What can be done to prevent future reoccurances from happening and can you outline some steps that might be taken with agents to better handle a similar situation in the future?

    While obviously this question would lead to “some promo”, it would at least give specifics on instances where things have not been ideal. While I love you travel blog and read it daily, I must admit the interviews get somewhat fluffy due to the same basic premise being taken. Granted, I love to know what works, but I also want to know how areas that DON’T will be addressed. Even in an ideal world, no company is perfect. There is always room for growth and change.

    My 2 cents any which way.

    Justin

  • Joe Farrell

    The Travelocity guarantee is worthless; it does not actually require them to do anything and promises nothing enforceable.

    The ‘guarantee’ provides:

    Everything about your booking will be right, or we’ll work with our partners to make it right, right away.

    OK – so your booking will be right. That does not mean they can get you a hotel room at a sold out hotel after a screwed up reservation. All it says is that they’ll work with their partners to make the booking right, not make the situation right.

    But you must call us right away-if you wait until after your trip, it’s too late. We’re available 24/7 to help ensure your trip goes as planned. Of course, there are some things we can’t control, like weather or mechanical difficulties, but in those rare cases when things don’t go the way they should, you can count on us to work with our partners on your behalf.

    All they promise to do is work with their partners – they can’t actually do anything. Thus, the promise is actually meaningless and not enforceable since if their ‘partners’ tell them that the entire island is sold out, and there are no rooms and no cars and no flight, well, oooops. Thats it. They’ve worked with their partners and thats it.

  • David Z

    @Joe Farrell

    Mileage varies, Joe. Depending on one’s expectations.

    OTOH, one shouldn’t necessarily promise what one can’t keep, right? Obviously no one can promise they’ll solve any problem or make the situation completely alright always, but they’ll at least try.

    I guess trying isn’t good enough for some people. But…that’s the least anyone can do.

  • Chicky

    Well, I can say as a member of the media, that a little honey goes a long way toward catching flies. Chris is right: if he didn’t allow these companies to toot their own horns just a little, he loses a big edge in dealing with them. He has asked some very pointed questions in columns past, and the people generally go into a tap dance that never answers the question, which is, in its own little way, as informative as a direct answer.
    Anyway, doing these interviews allows Chris the option of saying, “Look. You got some negative press from a traveler who had a problem with your company. I gave you a chance to promote your company and tell your side of the story. It was free, positive advertising. Don’t give me the ‘You’re just biased against travel companies’ line. You got positive press that $1 million couldn’t have bought. So spare me the biased line and help this traveler!” Believe it or not, that approach works more often than you realize. Keep up the good work, Chris.

  • LeeAnne

    I’d rather keep the occasional fluffy, mostly-promotional interview, and NOT lose Chris’s ability to go right to the source in these travel companies and get aggrieved travelers the satisfaction they deserve. It’s a small price to pay – and hey, nobody’s making you read them.

    I travel more securely knowing that if I get screwed over by a travel company, Chris is out there with his contacts, reputation, relationships, and standing in the travel industry to help me out. So he has to occasionally allow these companies to toot their own horns on here. Big deal. In the meantime, when one of us gets ripped off, he’s out there asking the tough questions, getting us our money back, and pulling no punches in his blog when he writes about it.

    Yay Chris! Keep it up. I’ll read your fluffy pen, because I know your mighy sword is still there when you need to use it.

    @Joe Farrell: So what kind of guarantee are you looking for? What you seem to be asking for is not legitimately possible. All ANY travel company can do is TRY to find a solution…nobody can guarantee that a solution that gives the traveler exactly what they want will be found. But at least they are guaranteeing they will work on it. That’s better than many other online agencies, who seem happy to pretend they never heard of you the moment things go sideways. Travelocity is certainly not perfect – and Chris has brokered quite a few resolutions when they screwed something up in the past – but at least with their guarantee, they are committing to not just abandoning you once they get your money. And if you’ve been reading this blog for any length of time, you’d know how often THAT happens!

  • Jasper

    @ Chicky: If a company wants to promote their business, they can buy ads. It is not up to journalists to facilitate that. I know that you need to deal a bit, but you can not allow gratuitous interviews. This is exactly why journalism is loosing so much money these days.

    It is perfectly possible to have a good interview without copying the ads texts of a company. Chris is a fair ombudsman. He quite often mentions unreasonable complaints and mistakes by travelers. There is no reason why companies would not want to talk to him. If all they want to is tout their advertisements texts, they can buy space. I am sure Chris has banners for sale.

  • Justin

    Hello all,

    Well let me cover two things. @Jasper. I wouldn’t take that hard of a stance on Chris. His work as an ombudsman is beyond spectacular. He goes to bat for the people he represents to the best of his ability. Chris is the advocate every consumer wants, and every company knows. Simply put, Chris Elliott is the man you want on your side of the park. He does his job well and gets resolutions in many cases where one can be found.

    Now as for the fluffy journalism. I understand you MUST pander to people at times, but I disagree with giving them 99 percent pander. I said it above. There are ways to word questions that don’t make people defensive. You can get TRUE AND HONEST responses in a fashion that leaves people to give a defense and explain how they will prove. As long as you don’t target and point a finger, most people will be willing to offer a critical response and give solutions on how in the few cases they can do better. I said it earlier, NO COMPANY is perfect and all have areas where they can grow and improve. That’s just the business world as a while.

    Justin

  • Jasper

    @LeeAnne: Commitments are worthless these days. Advertisers don’t even have to speak the truth anymore. A guarantee is a guarantee, not an attempt. To speak with Yoda: “Do, or do not. There is no try.” As long as we can read here that people are desperate enough to contact Chris, Travelocity is not delivering on their guarantee.

    The reason why I am pushing this point is that I am really upset about the constant abuse of language by advertisers (and lawyers, politicians, etc). (Most) Words have a clear meaning, that is not up for opinionating. The evil of this ‘Fair and Balanced’ shtick is that not everything is based on opinion. There are facts too. They must not be treated as opinions.

    It is not valid journalism to just ask the opinions of “both sides”. Journalism is to get both sides and then figure out who has the fact on her side.

  • David Z

    To speak with Yoda: “Do, or do not. There is no try.”

    (Most) Words have a clear meaning, that is not up for opinionating.

    Obi Wan Kenobi – so what I told you is true…from a certain point of view.

    Heh, here we are quoting from Star Wars…

  • Chicky

    @Jasper. Respectfully, objective journalism *is* about getting both sides of the story. The objective journalist presents both sides of the story and allows the reader to decide who is right. A good news outlet tries to give its readers credit for having enough sense to make the correct decision for themselves. Stating an opinion on which side is “right” is what belongs on the editorial page, since both sides usually have “facts” to prove their points. Chris interviewed the Travelocity people, published the interview, and leaves the readers to define who has right on their side–as we are presently doing.

    And the reason newspapers are struggling is due in large part to this wonderful thing called the Internet, which offers instant news gratification in just a few clicks.

    Also, positive stories weigh far more heavily in a reader’s mind than positive advertising. Super Bowl ads cost a fortune, but nothing brings people in faster than news of a company providing meals for starving children or doing something good. By the same token, nothing runs them off faster than tales of poor customer service. So advertising is largely ignored in favor of positive or negative reports from people about good or bad customer service.

  • Joe Farrell

    @LeeAnne – how about this:

    Travelocity promises that you will get what you book. Or we’ll fix it.

    Travelocity promises to fix mistakes made by our travel providers by being your advocate or we will refund your booking.

    Travelocity promises to provide english speaking persons to answer your telephone call within 1 minute of answering who have the authority to honor our guarantee – not read from a script in Bangla Desh and bump the problem back to the States after trying to get you to hang up.

    Travelocity promises to fix any mistakes WE make. Period.

    Travelocity promises to reimburse you for mistakes we make which prevent you from getting what you bought in a reasonably timely manner, and to reimburse you for reasonable expenses incurred to obtain human needs like shelter and on-going transportation. p
    i.e., if we screw up your hotel or car rental or fail to provide paper tickets when needed and you have to spend money on the spot to fix it –

    THE ABOVE IS A GUARANTEE. What Travelocity has is a promise to eventually talk to someone else to try to fix a problem. And have you called their phone lines? Hence the request to avoid speaking to overseas script readers.

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