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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;The harassment has continued to escalate with each call&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: RAQUEL</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/elliotts-email/the-harassment-has-continued-to-escalate-with-each-call/comment-page-1/#comment-14953</link>
		<dc:creator>RAQUEL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me just say this ... what you see is NOT what you get with CheapOair.  This company bait you with lower prices, then switch after you are booked.  I booked with them on a rate I was pretty comfortable paying. This morning, I get a phone call informing me that that rate has expired, and therefore, I have to be charged with the new rate?! I I explained to them that that is not honoring their advertised rate.  I also told the supervisor that it is actually their policy that informs the consumer that CheapOair will pay the difference in the change of rate of $25.  My words unfortunately landed on deaf ears.  I was placed on hold for an half and hour and lied to repeatedly after that.  I told her that they are not following advertisement laws or upholding their agreement.  The only response I received from the woman with a thick Indian ascent was &quot;I&#039;m sorry&quot;.  Trust me, never again will I used them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me just say this &#8230; what you see is NOT what you get with CheapOair.  This company bait you with lower prices, then switch after you are booked.  I booked with them on a rate I was pretty comfortable paying. This morning, I get a phone call informing me that that rate has expired, and therefore, I have to be charged with the new rate?! I I explained to them that that is not honoring their advertised rate.  I also told the supervisor that it is actually their policy that informs the consumer that CheapOair will pay the difference in the change of rate of $25.  My words unfortunately landed on deaf ears.  I was placed on hold for an half and hour and lied to repeatedly after that.  I told her that they are not following advertisement laws or upholding their agreement.  The only response I received from the woman with a thick Indian ascent was &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry&#8221;.  Trust me, never again will I used them.</p>
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		<title>By: george_blue</title>
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		<dc:creator>george_blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheapoair.com is the worst, they use a bait and switch tactic to rip people off then charge fifty dollars in cancellation fees after they changed the dates for your travel.  Run away from cheapoair.com fast.


They need to be shut down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheapoair.com is the worst, they use a bait and switch tactic to rip people off then charge fifty dollars in cancellation fees after they changed the dates for your travel.  Run away from cheapoair.com fast.</p>
<p>They need to be shut down.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Damiani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Damiani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 17:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see lots of folks talking about the debt collection aspect. Where is the outrage over being charged an additional fee to miss the flight? I mean, how bizzare is it that *not* taking a trip costs more than taking one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see lots of folks talking about the debt collection aspect. Where is the outrage over being charged an additional fee to miss the flight? I mean, how bizzare is it that *not* taking a trip costs more than taking one?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/elliotts-email/the-harassment-has-continued-to-escalate-with-each-call/comment-page-1/#comment-10467</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did some comparison shopping and CheapoAir isn&#039;t all that cheap. I was able to find equal deals with relative ease and a few cheapo deals to boot.

There is no free lunch in travel or in life. You get what you pay for and/or what you negotiate.

People have to realize that when you know the price of everything your often forget the value of anything. 

Companies like Cheap work on razor thin profit margins and throw up numerous roadblocks in the Customer Service process designed to frustrate the average consumer into just giving up and &quot;going away&quot;. The internet is a powerful tool for leveling the playing field. When consumers wake up and see how easy it truly is to raise hell and do so then things will change. As it is now we are all calculations on a spreadsheet. When the cost of settling court claims and negative media exposure excedes the amount budgeted for &quot;The Squeaky Wheel&quot; then change will occur, probably in the form of even harsher rules and contracts at first followed by improved customer service once they see people won&#039;t &quot;Go Away&quot; quietly.

Bottom Line is:

Know the rules
Know the contract
stand your ground
Don&#039;t give up with the first &quot;NO&quot; you get.

Oft times they will agree with you to get you to go away which is fine YOU WON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some comparison shopping and CheapoAir isn&#8217;t all that cheap. I was able to find equal deals with relative ease and a few cheapo deals to boot.</p>
<p>There is no free lunch in travel or in life. You get what you pay for and/or what you negotiate.</p>
<p>People have to realize that when you know the price of everything your often forget the value of anything. </p>
<p>Companies like Cheap work on razor thin profit margins and throw up numerous roadblocks in the Customer Service process designed to frustrate the average consumer into just giving up and &#8220;going away&#8221;. The internet is a powerful tool for leveling the playing field. When consumers wake up and see how easy it truly is to raise hell and do so then things will change. As it is now we are all calculations on a spreadsheet. When the cost of settling court claims and negative media exposure excedes the amount budgeted for &#8220;The Squeaky Wheel&#8221; then change will occur, probably in the form of even harsher rules and contracts at first followed by improved customer service once they see people won&#8217;t &#8220;Go Away&#8221; quietly.</p>
<p>Bottom Line is:</p>
<p>Know the rules<br />
Know the contract<br />
stand your ground<br />
Don&#8217;t give up with the first &#8220;NO&#8221; you get.</p>
<p>Oft times they will agree with you to get you to go away which is fine YOU WON.</p>
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		<title>By: RebeccaJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>RebeccaJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on John F.  And that wewillgetyoutheresometimemaybe.com made me laugh.

CheapoAir&#039;s name alone is enough of a warning for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on John F.  And that wewillgetyoutheresometimemaybe.com made me laugh.</p>
<p>CheapoAir&#8217;s name alone is enough of a warning for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 04:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If she is a resident of Texas, the Texas (and some other states) laws on debt collection are stronger and also apply to the original creditor (unlike the Fed law).  Each violation is $1,000 and stand alone whether or not the debt is owed.

With the Cease and Desist, include a request for validation (not verification).  Any further collection attempts without validation, file in JP court.

Search the web, plenty of places to assist pro bono.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she is a resident of Texas, the Texas (and some other states) laws on debt collection are stronger and also apply to the original creditor (unlike the Fed law).  Each violation is $1,000 and stand alone whether or not the debt is owed.</p>
<p>With the Cease and Desist, include a request for validation (not verification).  Any further collection attempts without validation, file in JP court.</p>
<p>Search the web, plenty of places to assist pro bono.</p>
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		<title>By: John F</title>
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		<dc:creator>John F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, just doing business with a company called Cheapo Air might raise a red flag for me.  What is next?  WeWillGetYouThereSometime--Maybe.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, just doing business with a company called Cheapo Air might raise a red flag for me.  What is next?  WeWillGetYouThereSometime&#8211;Maybe.com?</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to tell you that I really appreciate the advice provided.  I will take the steps outlined, and if I continue to receive the phone calls, I will then consult an attorney.  I&#039;d LOVE for Cheapo Air to have to pay some fines for this one.

Thanks to everyone who posted.  Keep posting, as it will draw more attention to the sleazy tactics they are taking to rip people off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to tell you that I really appreciate the advice provided.  I will take the steps outlined, and if I continue to receive the phone calls, I will then consult an attorney.  I&#8217;d LOVE for Cheapo Air to have to pay some fines for this one.</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone who posted.  Keep posting, as it will draw more attention to the sleazy tactics they are taking to rip people off.</p>
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		<title>By: Gena</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/elliotts-email/the-harassment-has-continued-to-escalate-with-each-call/comment-page-1/#comment-10274</link>
		<dc:creator>Gena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find CheapoAir&#039;s practices appalling!  I wonder how many people have been bullied into paying cancellation fees or have had unauthorized charges made to credit cards?  I commend Ms. Dennis for taking them to task on this.  Please let us know how this turns out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find CheapoAir&#8217;s practices appalling!  I wonder how many people have been bullied into paying cancellation fees or have had unauthorized charges made to credit cards?  I commend Ms. Dennis for taking them to task on this.  Please let us know how this turns out.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer,

I had the Law School Admission Service for an account for many many years. So perhaps I&#039;ve earned my opinion. 

I also sell copiers which is an industry NOT for the faint of heart. Being called a &quot;SLeazey Copier Salesman&quot; earns a smile. When you choose a profession with a spotty reputation then you&#039;d best have a thick skin.

I find the idea that you need an attorney to take a crap insane. God game me a brain and I use it. Right now I&#039;m batting a thousand with various consumer agencies. 

But what I&#039;m really struggling with is my Girlfriends 13 year old son. GRRRRRR! Trashing Lawyers and fighting with travel companies is a walk in the park</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer,</p>
<p>I had the Law School Admission Service for an account for many many years. So perhaps I&#8217;ve earned my opinion. </p>
<p>I also sell copiers which is an industry NOT for the faint of heart. Being called a &#8220;SLeazey Copier Salesman&#8221; earns a smile. When you choose a profession with a spotty reputation then you&#8217;d best have a thick skin.</p>
<p>I find the idea that you need an attorney to take a crap insane. God game me a brain and I use it. Right now I&#8217;m batting a thousand with various consumer agencies. </p>
<p>But what I&#8217;m really struggling with is my Girlfriends 13 year old son. GRRRRRR! Trashing Lawyers and fighting with travel companies is a walk in the park</p>
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		<title>By: jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Johnson, wow, you get defensive very easily.  Joe was not accusing you of anything. However, you very easily turned on him.  I, for one, get very tired of constantly being attacked for being an attorney and that is just what you did.  

I gave numerous suggestions above to the original letter writer on trying to resolve this herself.  Only after those suggestions fail, did I suggest an attorney when CheapO escalates the matter.  Not everyone wants to spend their lives chasing a few hundred dollars when an attorney can handle the matter AS THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO.  

I applaud you for what you say you have accomplished.  Whether an attorney could have done more for you, probably, but whatever makes you happy.  I spent 3 1/2 years doing client counseling trying to help people avoid having to retain attorneys, if at all possible, by giving them legal advice to follow themselves.  Here is the clincher, it is not always possible.  

However, Joe correctly pointed out the hazard of an untrained person giving potentially wrong information.  Sorry that fact bent you so out of shape but I&#039;m sure Ms. Dennis would appreciate the correct information.  

So, back to the actual topic at hand, Ms. Dennis should complain effectively following the steps outlined above and then, if those steps have failed, may wish to retain an attorney who specializes in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Johnson, wow, you get defensive very easily.  Joe was not accusing you of anything. However, you very easily turned on him.  I, for one, get very tired of constantly being attacked for being an attorney and that is just what you did.  </p>
<p>I gave numerous suggestions above to the original letter writer on trying to resolve this herself.  Only after those suggestions fail, did I suggest an attorney when CheapO escalates the matter.  Not everyone wants to spend their lives chasing a few hundred dollars when an attorney can handle the matter AS THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO.  </p>
<p>I applaud you for what you say you have accomplished.  Whether an attorney could have done more for you, probably, but whatever makes you happy.  I spent 3 1/2 years doing client counseling trying to help people avoid having to retain attorneys, if at all possible, by giving them legal advice to follow themselves.  Here is the clincher, it is not always possible.  </p>
<p>However, Joe correctly pointed out the hazard of an untrained person giving potentially wrong information.  Sorry that fact bent you so out of shape but I&#8217;m sure Ms. Dennis would appreciate the correct information.  </p>
<p>So, back to the actual topic at hand, Ms. Dennis should complain effectively following the steps outlined above and then, if those steps have failed, may wish to retain an attorney who specializes in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Farrell I&#039;ve gone Pro Se on several matters including a divorce. Once you have an address you can do many things. Like find a phone number for instance. 

All it takes is an internet connection and some legwork and one can save thousands in legal fees. I&#039;ve become a very skilled advocate for myself and I don&#039;t bully well. I provided an address I found in under two minutes. If it was my case I&#039;d have done more. 

Somehow I feel like the villian here because I didn&#039;t suggest a fee generating lawyer. It&#039;s way way long past time for people to stand up for THEMSELVES. 

Over the last eight years as a frequent traveler I&#039;ve gotten thousands in refunds, vouchers by effectively raising hell. Anyone can I&#039;m not that smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Farrell I&#8217;ve gone Pro Se on several matters including a divorce. Once you have an address you can do many things. Like find a phone number for instance. </p>
<p>All it takes is an internet connection and some legwork and one can save thousands in legal fees. I&#8217;ve become a very skilled advocate for myself and I don&#8217;t bully well. I provided an address I found in under two minutes. If it was my case I&#8217;d have done more. </p>
<p>Somehow I feel like the villian here because I didn&#8217;t suggest a fee generating lawyer. It&#8217;s way way long past time for people to stand up for THEMSELVES. </p>
<p>Over the last eight years as a frequent traveler I&#8217;ve gotten thousands in refunds, vouchers by effectively raising hell. Anyone can I&#8217;m not that smart.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Farrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 13:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Johnson, you make the obvious mistake many people make in assuming that the address which they give you for travel insurance contact is the address of the company where the officers are located.  If you send the demand to the wrong address they are not obligated to follow the law.

Thats why people use lawyers - because we are trained to read ALL of the statute AND the regulations of the FTC or whatever agency may be involved and to be certain the interaction comports with the requirements of the law, not someone&#039;s best guess. . . .

That may very well be the same address, but somehow, I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Johnson, you make the obvious mistake many people make in assuming that the address which they give you for travel insurance contact is the address of the company where the officers are located.  If you send the demand to the wrong address they are not obligated to follow the law.</p>
<p>Thats why people use lawyers &#8211; because we are trained to read ALL of the statute AND the regulations of the FTC or whatever agency may be involved and to be certain the interaction comports with the requirements of the law, not someone&#8217;s best guess. . . .</p>
<p>That may very well be the same address, but somehow, I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, should be spelled attorneys.  My brain froze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, should be spelled attorneys.  My brain froze.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three more steps.  The FTC regulates bill collectors who violate the FDCPA.  File a complaint at ftc.gov.  Your complaint may not receive individual attention but if a number of people file complaints against the debt collector, the FTC may take action.

Second, collection agencies (even attornies handling collections) are normally required to be licensed in the state in which the DEBTOR resides.  Thus, CheapOAir or whomever they contract to do their collections is usually required to be licensed in the state in which Melanie lives.  What are the chances CheapO is licensed in Melanie&#039;s state?  Slim and none.  The State Attorney General or Consumer Advocate generally handles complaints like this and they usually will contact the offending party on your behalf.  If Melanie writes to CheapO, I recommend she copy in the Atty General for her state.  It works.  

Finally, Melanie must review her credit report in the next 3 months because this debt will likely appear.  Then she must dispute the item with the credit reporting agency immediately.  If this happens, file another complaint with the FTC under the Fair Credit Reporting Act.  If CheapO won&#039;t remove the item from her credit report, it&#039;s time to find an attorney who practices consumer law.  They usually take the case on a contingent fee.  The fines mount pretty high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three more steps.  The FTC regulates bill collectors who violate the FDCPA.  File a complaint at ftc.gov.  Your complaint may not receive individual attention but if a number of people file complaints against the debt collector, the FTC may take action.</p>
<p>Second, collection agencies (even attornies handling collections) are normally required to be licensed in the state in which the DEBTOR resides.  Thus, CheapOAir or whomever they contract to do their collections is usually required to be licensed in the state in which Melanie lives.  What are the chances CheapO is licensed in Melanie&#8217;s state?  Slim and none.  The State Attorney General or Consumer Advocate generally handles complaints like this and they usually will contact the offending party on your behalf.  If Melanie writes to CheapO, I recommend she copy in the Atty General for her state.  It works.  </p>
<p>Finally, Melanie must review her credit report in the next 3 months because this debt will likely appear.  Then she must dispute the item with the credit reporting agency immediately.  If this happens, file another complaint with the FTC under the Fair Credit Reporting Act.  If CheapO won&#8217;t remove the item from her credit report, it&#8217;s time to find an attorney who practices consumer law.  They usually take the case on a contingent fee.  The fines mount pretty high.</p>
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