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	<title>Comments on: Yes, you can fight a resort fee &#8212; and win</title>
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		<title>By: Bclay</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/yes-you-can-fight-a-resort-fee-and-win/comment-page-1/#comment-73048</link>
		<dc:creator>Bclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t pay the collection agency, tell them why fee was denied.  I&#039;ve been turned over to a collection agency twice for bill disputes.  I told the collectors what was going on, I was not going to pay them and if they used my # again to contact me, I would look into legal action against them.  Issue was solved.  Maybe I was lucky?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t pay the collection agency, tell them why fee was denied.  I&#8217;ve been turned over to a collection agency twice for bill disputes.  I told the collectors what was going on, I was not going to pay them and if they used my # again to contact me, I would look into legal action against them.  Issue was solved.  Maybe I was lucky?!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jjweldon</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/yes-you-can-fight-a-resort-fee-and-win/comment-page-1/#comment-69102</link>
		<dc:creator>Jjweldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adele is right - the hotel will simply send a bill and then off to the collection agency.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adele is right &#8211; the hotel will simply send a bill and then off to the collection agency.</p>
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		<title>By: Jjweldon</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/yes-you-can-fight-a-resort-fee-and-win/comment-page-1/#comment-69103</link>
		<dc:creator>Jjweldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adele is right - the hotel will simply send a bill and then off to the collection agency.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adele is right &#8211; the hotel will simply send a bill and then off to the collection agency.</p>
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		<title>By: Jjweldon</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/yes-you-can-fight-a-resort-fee-and-win/comment-page-1/#comment-69104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jjweldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adele is right - the hotel will simply send a bill and then off to the collection agency.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adele is right &#8211; the hotel will simply send a bill and then off to the collection agency.</p>
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		<title>By: I stand corrected &#124; Stiffs and Georges</title>
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		<dc:creator>I stand corrected &#124; Stiffs and Georges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and won. Yes, somebody actually refused to pay one of those onerous &#8220;resort fees&#8221; and persuaded his credit card provider to agree with him. Among the alleged &#8220;value&#8221; items, I would question whether the Las Vegas Review-Journal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and won. Yes, somebody actually refused to pay one of those onerous &#8220;resort fees&#8221; and persuaded his credit card provider to agree with him. Among the alleged &#8220;value&#8221; items, I would question whether the Las Vegas Review-Journal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: East Coast Gambler - &#124; Fighting Resort Fees&#8230;And Winning</title>
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		<dc:creator>East Coast Gambler - &#124; Fighting Resort Fees&#8230;And Winning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 16:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So, it brings me great pleasure to find an blog that shows how a customer at Treasure Island fought back against resort fees&#8230;and won! Yesterday, he sent me an [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Garwastg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garwastg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 16:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit reluctant to believe the OP didn&#039;t do any reasearch via the web.  The first thing I do is check reviews for whatever I&#039;m planning on booking, be it a hotel, attraction, rental car, etc.  Just seems common sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit reluctant to believe the OP didn&#8217;t do any reasearch via the web.  The first thing I do is check reviews for whatever I&#8217;m planning on booking, be it a hotel, attraction, rental car, etc.  Just seems common sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Everywhereist</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/yes-you-can-fight-a-resort-fee-and-win/comment-page-1/#comment-40606</link>
		<dc:creator>Everywhereist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 05:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue for me would be the time it would take to dispute the charge. Based on all the trouble involved, it *almost* seems worth it just to pay the unjustified amount. Almost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue for me would be the time it would take to dispute the charge. Based on all the trouble involved, it *almost* seems worth it just to pay the unjustified amount. Almost.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 05:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I generally book online.  I usually stay at Marriott properties, which, on their web page and in an email, disclose all of the fees, including anticipated taxes.  They are pretty much highly accurate.

It is the same thing when I book on Air Canada or rent a car from Hertz.  I get told what the anticipated charges will be.

I hate resort fees, but they need to disclose them at the time of reservation.  If they don&#039;t, then they should not be paid.
 A Virginia based company had a conference recently at the Gaylord in Washington, DC.  The Gaylord disclosed a &quot;resort fee&quot;.  I didn&#039;t go to the conference!  I went to it last year, but if they are going to have it at &quot;resort fee&quot; hotels, they can go get stuffed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I generally book online.  I usually stay at Marriott properties, which, on their web page and in an email, disclose all of the fees, including anticipated taxes.  They are pretty much highly accurate.</p>
<p>It is the same thing when I book on Air Canada or rent a car from Hertz.  I get told what the anticipated charges will be.</p>
<p>I hate resort fees, but they need to disclose them at the time of reservation.  If they don&#8217;t, then they should not be paid.<br />
 A Virginia based company had a conference recently at the Gaylord in Washington, DC.  The Gaylord disclosed a &#8220;resort fee&#8221;.  I didn&#8217;t go to the conference!  I went to it last year, but if they are going to have it at &#8220;resort fee&#8221; hotels, they can go get stuffed.</p>
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		<title>By: Stoyko</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/yes-you-can-fight-a-resort-fee-and-win/comment-page-1/#comment-40534</link>
		<dc:creator>Stoyko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ARW - I agree with everything you say. Still, markups of over 200% *are* ridiculous. Not just when charged by hotels. There are many other examples of ridiculous markups, but the topic here is hotels.

Another point - hotels have probably come to realize that they don&#039;t have a chance of getting many customers to pay the ridiculous $15/day high speed internet fee. That is probably one of the reasons they are trying to bundle it and make it mandatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ARW &#8211; I agree with everything you say. Still, markups of over 200% *are* ridiculous. Not just when charged by hotels. There are many other examples of ridiculous markups, but the topic here is hotels.</p>
<p>Another point &#8211; hotels have probably come to realize that they don&#8217;t have a chance of getting many customers to pay the ridiculous $15/day high speed internet fee. That is probably one of the reasons they are trying to bundle it and make it mandatory.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 20:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peter - Any thoughts re how best to challenge a well-disclosed resort fee? 

Take your business elsewhere.  If it&#039;s fully disclosed and you still choose to stay at that property, then you have agreed to pay the resort fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peter &#8211; Any thoughts re how best to challenge a well-disclosed resort fee? </p>
<p>Take your business elsewhere.  If it&#8217;s fully disclosed and you still choose to stay at that property, then you have agreed to pay the resort fee.</p>
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		<title>By: brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 18:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Carole Terwilliger Meyers:

The Credit Card company doesn&#039;t absorb the cost of the dispute. The chargeback is just that, a chargeback. The vendor that processed the charges initially will have the funds deducted from their account. You can&#039;t think that Mastercard or Visa would set-up a system that would allow all disputes to be at handled at their cost. If this was the case, the merchant would have no incentive to respond to a chargeback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carole Terwilliger Meyers:</p>
<p>The Credit Card company doesn&#8217;t absorb the cost of the dispute. The chargeback is just that, a chargeback. The vendor that processed the charges initially will have the funds deducted from their account. You can&#8217;t think that Mastercard or Visa would set-up a system that would allow all disputes to be at handled at their cost. If this was the case, the merchant would have no incentive to respond to a chargeback.</p>
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		<title>By: Adele</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 18:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may not be the final chapter.  I once disputed with my credit card company a $50 charge American Airlines never disclosed to me (after getting nowhere with AA).  Similar situation, AA never responded, the credit card ruled in my favor.  A few weeks later, I got a bill from AA for $50 with a note, &quot;Your credit card denied payment.  You owe $50.&quot;  When I explained to them why my credit card company denied payment and sent them documentation, they sent the matter to a collection agency.  

So, Treasure Island probably didn&#039;t respond to Amex because they knew they would lose.  If they are as greedy as AA, they can still send the matter to a collection agency and it&#039;s up to you to challenge the original invoice.  Providing documentation that Amex ruled in your favor will not satisfy a collection agency.  Then again, Treasure Island might have better things to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may not be the final chapter.  I once disputed with my credit card company a $50 charge American Airlines never disclosed to me (after getting nowhere with AA).  Similar situation, AA never responded, the credit card ruled in my favor.  A few weeks later, I got a bill from AA for $50 with a note, &#8220;Your credit card denied payment.  You owe $50.&#8221;  When I explained to them why my credit card company denied payment and sent them documentation, they sent the matter to a collection agency.  </p>
<p>So, Treasure Island probably didn&#8217;t respond to Amex because they knew they would lose.  If they are as greedy as AA, they can still send the matter to a collection agency and it&#8217;s up to you to challenge the original invoice.  Providing documentation that Amex ruled in your favor will not satisfy a collection agency.  Then again, Treasure Island might have better things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 17:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When slapped with undisclosed fees in a number of cases (hotels, rental cars, even once an airline), I have found an effective tactic is to dispute it with the credit card company, tell them you are not sure but you do not believe you authorized the charge, and be VERY specific and demanding about what documentation you want from the supplier to justify it.  I&#039;m rarely 100% sure that they didn&#039;t disclose it, I know I miss things, but there&#039;s nothing inappropriate about making them prove that they did.

The more challenging you can make this request, the more likely the supplier will just write it off (fail to respond).  For example if you booked a hotel on the web and get hit with a resort fee, tell them you want an exact copy of the pages you viewed as they were at the time you viewed them, and with the disclosure highlighted.  Few companies can do this; either they will ignore it (you win), or send you a copy of the *current* web pages; if they do the latter then you can compare the confirmation page to the one that you (hopefully) printed at the time you made the booking - it will almost certainly be different, which means you can tell the credit card company that the supplier did not comply with your request for documentation, and that the documentation they provided doesn&#039;t support their claim.

If your request is reasonably necessary to support your claim that you weren&#039;t told about the fee, and the merchant doesn&#039;t provide the info, the credit card company pretty much has to take your side.

Using this approach I have never lost a dispute, and have won probably 8-10 of them over the years.  I&#039;m going to guess that in some cases the disclosures WERE made and I just missed them, but no one yet found it worthwhile to actually prove it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When slapped with undisclosed fees in a number of cases (hotels, rental cars, even once an airline), I have found an effective tactic is to dispute it with the credit card company, tell them you are not sure but you do not believe you authorized the charge, and be VERY specific and demanding about what documentation you want from the supplier to justify it.  I&#8217;m rarely 100% sure that they didn&#8217;t disclose it, I know I miss things, but there&#8217;s nothing inappropriate about making them prove that they did.</p>
<p>The more challenging you can make this request, the more likely the supplier will just write it off (fail to respond).  For example if you booked a hotel on the web and get hit with a resort fee, tell them you want an exact copy of the pages you viewed as they were at the time you viewed them, and with the disclosure highlighted.  Few companies can do this; either they will ignore it (you win), or send you a copy of the *current* web pages; if they do the latter then you can compare the confirmation page to the one that you (hopefully) printed at the time you made the booking &#8211; it will almost certainly be different, which means you can tell the credit card company that the supplier did not comply with your request for documentation, and that the documentation they provided doesn&#8217;t support their claim.</p>
<p>If your request is reasonably necessary to support your claim that you weren&#8217;t told about the fee, and the merchant doesn&#8217;t provide the info, the credit card company pretty much has to take your side.</p>
<p>Using this approach I have never lost a dispute, and have won probably 8-10 of them over the years.  I&#8217;m going to guess that in some cases the disclosures WERE made and I just missed them, but no one yet found it worthwhile to actually prove it.</p>
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		<title>By: Travel News Update (5/24/10) from Tales Told From The Road &#171; Tales Told From The Road</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travel News Update (5/24/10) from Tales Told From The Road &#171; Tales Told From The Road</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 17:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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