Comments on: Who gives a hoot about 14 CFR Part 234? You should http://www.elliott.org/blog/who-gives-a-hoot-about-14-cfr-part-234-you-should/ The travel troubleshooter. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:46:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jasper http://www.elliott.org/blog/who-gives-a-hoot-about-14-cfr-part-234-you-should/comment-page-1/#comment-12102 Jasper Mon, 19 May 2008 14:48:59 +0000 http://www.elliott.org/?p=5022#comment-12102 @ MarkA: I am not purchasing the cheapest of anything. I am very willing to pay for quality. Problem is that these days, quality is not for sale in the airline industry. So am purchasing as little as I can to get by. The result is that airlines sell less, and think that I think their product is too expensive. That's not true. I think their product is a pain. You could argue that business class and first class are more quality that coach, but they don't save you from the interactions with frustrated and underpaid staff, from the insane TSA, from more and more surcharges and fees, from weather delays under a clear sky (plane is coming in from bla bla), nor from delays caused by mechanical defects, sorry, weather delay. @ MarkA: I am not purchasing the cheapest of anything. I am very willing to pay for quality. Problem is that these days, quality is not for sale in the airline industry. So am purchasing as little as I can to get by. The result is that airlines sell less, and think that I think their product is too expensive. That’s not true. I think their product is a pain.

You could argue that business class and first class are more quality that coach, but they don’t save you from the interactions with frustrated and underpaid staff, from the insane TSA, from more and more surcharges and fees, from weather delays under a clear sky (plane is coming in from bla bla), nor from delays caused by mechanical defects, sorry, weather delay.

]]> By: MarkA http://www.elliott.org/blog/who-gives-a-hoot-about-14-cfr-part-234-you-should/comment-page-1/#comment-12101 MarkA Mon, 19 May 2008 14:03:48 +0000 http://www.elliott.org/?p=5022#comment-12101 Jasper - "Voting with your wallet" does not mean purchasing the cheapest of anything. It simply means spending money on what is important to you. If you feel that Customer Service is the most important feature, then "vote with your wallet" and patronize - spend money - on those airlines that provide good Customer Service. Jasper – “Voting with your wallet” does not mean purchasing the cheapest of anything. It simply means spending money on what is important to you. If you feel that Customer Service is the most important feature, then “vote with your wallet” and patronize – spend money – on those airlines that provide good Customer Service.

]]> By: Jasper http://www.elliott.org/blog/who-gives-a-hoot-about-14-cfr-part-234-you-should/comment-page-1/#comment-12100 Jasper Mon, 19 May 2008 12:32:11 +0000 http://www.elliott.org/?p=5022#comment-12100 @ MarkA: The problem with voting with your wallet, is that is convinces airline bean counters that they need to cut more cost, and introduce more separate fees and surcharges (seat assignment surcharge, hygiene control fee (for toilet usage), cabin personnel tip). It's like in the record industry. Customers are clearly not happy with the current business model, are voting with their wallets, and trying different ways, but the CEOs and bean counters only hang to their ancient business model. @ MarkA: The problem with voting with your wallet, is that is convinces airline bean counters that they need to cut more cost, and introduce more separate fees and surcharges (seat assignment surcharge, hygiene control fee (for toilet usage), cabin personnel tip).

It’s like in the record industry. Customers are clearly not happy with the current business model, are voting with their wallets, and trying different ways, but the CEOs and bean counters only hang to their ancient business model.

]]> By: MarkA http://www.elliott.org/blog/who-gives-a-hoot-about-14-cfr-part-234-you-should/comment-page-1/#comment-12099 MarkA Mon, 19 May 2008 11:28:14 +0000 http://www.elliott.org/?p=5022#comment-12099 I'll be honest with you Chris. When you told us about this awhile back (weeks ago?), my first thought was, "Gee! Now the airlines are gonna have to be just a bit more inventive about their reporting." It's not gonna be impossible, but maybe a tad more difficult. You know, as long as the plane actually backs away from the gate, it's departed. It doesn't matter that it sits there for another hour. And I'm sure that "weather delays" will remain "not our fault" and will show an alarming increase. And "on time" will be redefined to mean "sometime within the hour". You don't really thing that the airlines are gonna stand up and admit any fault, do you? And I'm sure the Feds will be just as diligent as they have been in making sure the flying public is taken care of. Call me jaded, but I continue to believe that the only way to affect change is by voting with your wallet. A few of the really bad airlines go under due to low passenger numbers and the others will have to sit up and take notice. That also requires the passengers to show some backbone, too. If you continue to patronize that lousy airline just because they have the lowest airfare, you really have no one to blame but yourself. I’ll be honest with you Chris. When you told us about this awhile back (weeks ago?), my first thought was, “Gee! Now the airlines are gonna have to be just a bit more inventive about their reporting.” It’s not gonna be impossible, but maybe a tad more difficult. You know, as long as the plane actually backs away from the gate, it’s departed. It doesn’t matter that it sits there for another hour. And I’m sure that “weather delays” will remain “not our fault” and will show an alarming increase. And “on time” will be redefined to mean “sometime within the hour”. You don’t really thing that the airlines are gonna stand up and admit any fault, do you? And I’m sure the Feds will be just as diligent as they have been in making sure the flying public is taken care of. Call me jaded, but I continue to believe that the only way to affect change is by voting with your wallet. A few of the really bad airlines go under due to low passenger numbers and the others will have to sit up and take notice. That also requires the passengers to show some backbone, too. If you continue to patronize that lousy airline just because they have the lowest airfare, you really have no one to blame but yourself.

]]> By: Jasper http://www.elliott.org/blog/who-gives-a-hoot-about-14-cfr-part-234-you-should/comment-page-1/#comment-12087 Jasper Sun, 18 May 2008 09:47:04 +0000 http://www.elliott.org/?p=5022#comment-12087 Off course the government does not want us to talk to it. It has trouble enough ignoring those five hundred something fools in Congress. Off course the government does not want us to talk to it. It has trouble enough ignoring those five hundred something fools in Congress.

]]> By: ThePlaz http://www.elliott.org/blog/who-gives-a-hoot-about-14-cfr-part-234-you-should/comment-page-1/#comment-12074 ThePlaz Fri, 16 May 2008 22:08:18 +0000 http://www.elliott.org/?p=5022#comment-12074 Are you talking about this: http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=0900006480366e55 Comments are past due on that. Could you please link to the actual regulations.gov page you were talking about? Are you talking about this: http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspublic/component/main?main=DocumentDetail&o=0900006480366e55 Comments are past due on that.

Could you please link to the actual regulations.gov page you were talking about?

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