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		<title>By: barbie45</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/which-air-travelers-do-you-dislike-the-most/comment-page-1/#comment-24813</link>
		<dc:creator>barbie45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LEANNE YOU ARE JUST GETTIN MORE AND MORE OBNOXIOUS; YOU HAVE SLANDERD ME AND COTINUE TO DO SO; I HAVE ABSOLTELY NO RESPECT FOR YOU; AND YOUR HOLIER THAN THOU ATTITUED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LEANNE YOU ARE JUST GETTIN MORE AND MORE OBNOXIOUS; YOU HAVE SLANDERD ME AND COTINUE TO DO SO; I HAVE ABSOLTELY NO RESPECT FOR YOU; AND YOUR HOLIER THAN THOU ATTITUED.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/which-air-travelers-do-you-dislike-the-most/comment-page-1/#comment-24812</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were not reported then how did anyone know to reprimand you?

I guess I&#039;m the only one frustrated by people who stand in the aisle while stowing their bags in the overheads instead of stepping out of the aisle to let others pass while doing it.  I know this only affects a small part of the flight, but I bet it cumulatively adds 10 minutes to every boarding time.  But there&#039;s certainly nothing wrong with using your share of the overhead space instead of checking bags.  That&#039;s what it&#039;s there for, and it gets you in and out of the airport much more quickly.  If it fits in the sizer it&#039;s fair game.

I think public nursing is fine so long as it&#039;s done beneath a blanket.  The benefits to the child of breast milk are so overwhelming that it should be encouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were not reported then how did anyone know to reprimand you?</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m the only one frustrated by people who stand in the aisle while stowing their bags in the overheads instead of stepping out of the aisle to let others pass while doing it.  I know this only affects a small part of the flight, but I bet it cumulatively adds 10 minutes to every boarding time.  But there&#8217;s certainly nothing wrong with using your share of the overhead space instead of checking bags.  That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s there for, and it gets you in and out of the airport much more quickly.  If it fits in the sizer it&#8217;s fair game.</p>
<p>I think public nursing is fine so long as it&#8217;s done beneath a blanket.  The benefits to the child of breast milk are so overwhelming that it should be encouraged.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeAnne</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/which-air-travelers-do-you-dislike-the-most/comment-page-1/#comment-24810</link>
		<dc:creator>LeeAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbie, I&#039;m quite sure everyone who is still reading this thread (probably very few people now) are fully aware of exactly what went down that fateful day on your flight.  I don&#039;t think there is any more information you could offer that would illuminate it any further.  And the more you write about it, the more you reinforce everyone&#039;s opinion about you, and the type of passenger you are.

The bottom line is, you spilled your soda on a passenger, he asked (understandably) to have you moved back to your assigned seat.  (Yeah, stinks that you got a middle seat - but so did most of the OTHER passengers on that plane...you do not deserve one any more than anyone else.)  This left an empty seat beside the young man, which he (understandably) spread into.  This ticked you off, so you made some kind of mean-spirited comment suggesting he&#039;s a terrorist, loud enough for others to hear you.  Somebody reported you, and you were reprimanded.  The truth is you have no idea who reported you.  It may very well have been the passenger you muttered to!  I know I wouldn&#039;t appreciate some mean-spirited, ticked-off lady talking about terrorists on MY plane, ESPECIALLY only a year away from 9/11.  It was a rash, foolish thing to do, and you deserved every bit of that reprimand.  

You keep talking about this as if the young man was, in fact, a member of Al Qaida.  You seem to forget that you have no idea whatsoever what he was...what race, what nationality, what religion.  He was just a young man who appeared, to you, to be &quot;iddle Eastern&quot;.  Because you were jealous of him having an open seat next to him (which you could have kept, until you spilled your soda on him - accidentally or not, you did it, and those were the consequences), you chose to bring up the topic of terrorists, on an airplane, in flight.  This was foolish, shameful and, yes, RACIST.  You branded him a terrorist because of his apparent race.

You wrote (in caps, which I will spare everyone from):  &quot;Most people in the iddle East probably hate them to.&quot;

Hate who?  Themselves?  Or do you mean terrorists?  Or Al Qaida?  So you actually think the poor, spilled-upon young man WAS a terrorist?  And you know this...how???

You did say one intelligent thing in your last post:  &quot;I never should have mumbled that to a passenger inline that he overheard&quot;.  That is right.  The vast majority of travelers these days know full well that you don&#039;t toss around comments like that on an airplane, or even in an airport.  You are likely to get slammed to the floor and handcuffed by the nearest air marshall.

In any case, I&#039;m very happy to hear that you learned to take a few books and ignore other people.  I&#039;m sure this makes for far more pleasant travel for your fellow passengers.

This whole shameful episode, which has now been dissected ad infinitum, does serve as an excellent lesson for other air travelers - one that, fortunately, most people already know just through basic common sense, but a few people such as yourself might need reminding:  in this day and age, DO NOT MENTION TERRORISTS, BOMBS, HIJACKINGS, AL QAIDA, or any other similar topics while traveling by air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbie, I&#8217;m quite sure everyone who is still reading this thread (probably very few people now) are fully aware of exactly what went down that fateful day on your flight.  I don&#8217;t think there is any more information you could offer that would illuminate it any further.  And the more you write about it, the more you reinforce everyone&#8217;s opinion about you, and the type of passenger you are.</p>
<p>The bottom line is, you spilled your soda on a passenger, he asked (understandably) to have you moved back to your assigned seat.  (Yeah, stinks that you got a middle seat &#8211; but so did most of the OTHER passengers on that plane&#8230;you do not deserve one any more than anyone else.)  This left an empty seat beside the young man, which he (understandably) spread into.  This ticked you off, so you made some kind of mean-spirited comment suggesting he&#8217;s a terrorist, loud enough for others to hear you.  Somebody reported you, and you were reprimanded.  The truth is you have no idea who reported you.  It may very well have been the passenger you muttered to!  I know I wouldn&#8217;t appreciate some mean-spirited, ticked-off lady talking about terrorists on MY plane, ESPECIALLY only a year away from 9/11.  It was a rash, foolish thing to do, and you deserved every bit of that reprimand.  </p>
<p>You keep talking about this as if the young man was, in fact, a member of Al Qaida.  You seem to forget that you have no idea whatsoever what he was&#8230;what race, what nationality, what religion.  He was just a young man who appeared, to you, to be &#8220;iddle Eastern&#8221;.  Because you were jealous of him having an open seat next to him (which you could have kept, until you spilled your soda on him &#8211; accidentally or not, you did it, and those were the consequences), you chose to bring up the topic of terrorists, on an airplane, in flight.  This was foolish, shameful and, yes, RACIST.  You branded him a terrorist because of his apparent race.</p>
<p>You wrote (in caps, which I will spare everyone from):  &#8220;Most people in the iddle East probably hate them to.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hate who?  Themselves?  Or do you mean terrorists?  Or Al Qaida?  So you actually think the poor, spilled-upon young man WAS a terrorist?  And you know this&#8230;how???</p>
<p>You did say one intelligent thing in your last post:  &#8220;I never should have mumbled that to a passenger inline that he overheard&#8221;.  That is right.  The vast majority of travelers these days know full well that you don&#8217;t toss around comments like that on an airplane, or even in an airport.  You are likely to get slammed to the floor and handcuffed by the nearest air marshall.</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;m very happy to hear that you learned to take a few books and ignore other people.  I&#8217;m sure this makes for far more pleasant travel for your fellow passengers.</p>
<p>This whole shameful episode, which has now been dissected ad infinitum, does serve as an excellent lesson for other air travelers &#8211; one that, fortunately, most people already know just through basic common sense, but a few people such as yourself might need reminding:  in this day and age, DO NOT MENTION TERRORISTS, BOMBS, HIJACKINGS, AL QAIDA, or any other similar topics while traveling by air.</p>
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		<title>By: Travel News and Stories for 09/30/2009 : Kathika Travel Website</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/which-air-travelers-do-you-dislike-the-most/comment-page-1/#comment-24802</link>
		<dc:creator>Travel News and Stories for 09/30/2009 : Kathika Travel Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Which air travelers do you dislike the most? The ones that smell bad, according to a new poll by Travelocity. Fellow travelers with poor hygiene were called the &quot;most disliked&quot; in the survey, with a total of 45 percent of respondents calling out the unwashed masses. http://www.elliott.org [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Which air travelers do you dislike the most? The ones that smell bad, according to a new poll by Travelocity. Fellow travelers with poor hygiene were called the &quot;most disliked&quot; in the survey, with a total of 45 percent of respondents calling out the unwashed masses. <a href="http://www.elliott.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.elliott.org</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Travel News and Stories for 09/30/2009 : Kathika Travel Website</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/which-air-travelers-do-you-dislike-the-most/comment-page-1/#comment-24803</link>
		<dc:creator>Travel News and Stories for 09/30/2009 : Kathika Travel Website</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Which air travelers do you dislike the most? The ones that smell bad, according to a new poll by Travelocity. Fellow travelers with poor hygiene were called the &quot;most disliked&quot; in the survey, with a total of 45 percent of respondents calling out the unwashed masses. http://www.elliott.org [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Which air travelers do you dislike the most? The ones that smell bad, according to a new poll by Travelocity. Fellow travelers with poor hygiene were called the &quot;most disliked&quot; in the survey, with a total of 45 percent of respondents calling out the unwashed masses. <a href="http://www.elliott.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.elliott.org</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: barbie45</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/which-air-travelers-do-you-dislike-the-most/comment-page-1/#comment-24796</link>
		<dc:creator>barbie45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer; Iexplained in my initial letter in Scotland I requested an aisle seat back in Scotland and was assured no problem; When Iboarded the plane via Amsterdam the flight attendants were verybusy accomodating other passengers in seating; the flight was completely full; before departure i had to use the bathroom ; I noticed a empy aisle seat; Iwas given permissin by the flight attendant to have the seat; the young man was unhappy ; he showed if from the beginning ; lumch was served ; I inadvertantely spilled some soda the space between seats and a full tray led to the mishap; He demanded I be removed ;I was very unhappy ; and on the way back noticed he was very comfortabely sprawled out on two seats; while Iwas crushed in the middle of a long flight It was about a year after nine eleven so public opinion WAS VERY HIGH.; I never should have mumbled that to a passenge r inline that he overheard; however for him to be so nasty was uncalled for :Iam not a racist and MOST PEOPLE IN THE IDDLE EAST PROBABLY HATE THEM TO .
I was not reported but since learned just to take a few books along. ignore or try to other people;I wasnot arrested just reprimanded;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer; Iexplained in my initial letter in Scotland I requested an aisle seat back in Scotland and was assured no problem; When Iboarded the plane via Amsterdam the flight attendants were verybusy accomodating other passengers in seating; the flight was completely full; before departure i had to use the bathroom ; I noticed a empy aisle seat; Iwas given permissin by the flight attendant to have the seat; the young man was unhappy ; he showed if from the beginning ; lumch was served ; I inadvertantely spilled some soda the space between seats and a full tray led to the mishap; He demanded I be removed ;I was very unhappy ; and on the way back noticed he was very comfortabely sprawled out on two seats; while Iwas crushed in the middle of a long flight It was about a year after nine eleven so public opinion WAS VERY HIGH.; I never should have mumbled that to a passenge r inline that he overheard; however for him to be so nasty was uncalled for :Iam not a racist and MOST PEOPLE IN THE IDDLE EAST PROBABLY HATE THEM TO .<br />
I was not reported but since learned just to take a few books along. ignore or try to other people;I wasnot arrested just reprimanded;</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer (the other one)</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/which-air-travelers-do-you-dislike-the-most/comment-page-1/#comment-24791</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer (the other one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically, if the seat is empty, the neighboring passengers don&#039;t have veto power over someone choosing to sit in it.  However, on a practical level, if I&#039;d had the good fortune to be next to the only empty seat on the plane, I wouldn&#039;t be thrilled about someone else claiming it.  (That&#039;s why I always spread out over empty adjacent seats the instant the doors close.)  There&#039;s nothing weird about him wanting both seats to sleep more comfortably, even if he wasn&#039;t technically entitled to them.  If he had asked her to move, and then the seat sat unused for the rest of the flight, that would have been weird.

I doubt the &#039;Middle Eastern&#039; man called the police from the plane to complain about whatever Barbie said.  Most likely, he reported her comment to an FA, who decided (for whatever reason) to report it to law enforcement.

I&#039;d much rather people feed their babies than allow them to scream.  That said, just because something is a natural, beneficial bodily function doesn&#039;t automatically mean that it&#039;s appropriate in a public setting.  People are certainly entitled to their own opinions on that subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically, if the seat is empty, the neighboring passengers don&#8217;t have veto power over someone choosing to sit in it.  However, on a practical level, if I&#8217;d had the good fortune to be next to the only empty seat on the plane, I wouldn&#8217;t be thrilled about someone else claiming it.  (That&#8217;s why I always spread out over empty adjacent seats the instant the doors close.)  There&#8217;s nothing weird about him wanting both seats to sleep more comfortably, even if he wasn&#8217;t technically entitled to them.  If he had asked her to move, and then the seat sat unused for the rest of the flight, that would have been weird.</p>
<p>I doubt the &#8216;Middle Eastern&#8217; man called the police from the plane to complain about whatever Barbie said.  Most likely, he reported her comment to an FA, who decided (for whatever reason) to report it to law enforcement.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d much rather people feed their babies than allow them to scream.  That said, just because something is a natural, beneficial bodily function doesn&#8217;t automatically mean that it&#8217;s appropriate in a public setting.  People are certainly entitled to their own opinions on that subject.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbie, I don&#039;t need to slander you.  You are doing a fine job of it yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbie, I don&#8217;t need to slander you.  You are doing a fine job of it yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizabethvm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lizabethvm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel pretty lucky when I get on a plane that has personal touch screens so you can play games and whatever movie you want. My biggest pet peeve is when people start pounding on their screens, i.e., the back of my seat. It&#039;s a touch screen, not a punch screen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel pretty lucky when I get on a plane that has personal touch screens so you can play games and whatever movie you want. My biggest pet peeve is when people start pounding on their screens, i.e., the back of my seat. It&#8217;s a touch screen, not a punch screen!</p>
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		<title>By: barbie45</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbie45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not appreiate being called a racistwhich Iam not; nor religiously intolerant ; that is very insulting to my character; Isaid AL QUEIDA WHICH IS A SMALL MINORITY INTENT ON BODILY HARM; I DID NOT INSULT JUDIASM BUT A SMALL SECT OF A SUBCULTURE WHICH CAN BE VERY INTOLERANT ; AND I DO NOT SEE THE POINT OF BRINGING UP NURSING MOTHERSAGAIN AND AGAIN; I HAVE NOT SLANDERED YOU IN ANYWAY; HOWEVER YOU ARE DOING A DARN GOOD JOB OF SLANDERING ME; LETS JUST DROP IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not appreiate being called a racistwhich Iam not; nor religiously intolerant ; that is very insulting to my character; Isaid AL QUEIDA WHICH IS A SMALL MINORITY INTENT ON BODILY HARM; I DID NOT INSULT JUDIASM BUT A SMALL SECT OF A SUBCULTURE WHICH CAN BE VERY INTOLERANT ; AND I DO NOT SEE THE POINT OF BRINGING UP NURSING MOTHERSAGAIN AND AGAIN; I HAVE NOT SLANDERED YOU IN ANYWAY; HOWEVER YOU ARE DOING A DARN GOOD JOB OF SLANDERING ME; LETS JUST DROP IT.</p>
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