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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;What kind of pie is that?&#8221; the TSA agent demanded</title>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/what-kind-of-pie-is-that-the-tsa-agent-demanded/comment-page-3/#comment-31002</link>
		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was told by a TSA agent that I could not bring the stone that I had picked up at the beach as a souvenir in my hand luggage. I could only throw it away or check it in because it could be used as a weapon in the aircraft. The stone was about the size, shape and weight of a hamburger patty. In the same hand luggage I had my camera with tele zoom lens on, weighing about 2 and a half lbs. Yes, I agree, with a lot of phantasy and force even a stone from the beach can be use as a weapon, but which thing could not be used as a weapon, even with a pillow or with headphones you can suffocate somebody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was told by a TSA agent that I could not bring the stone that I had picked up at the beach as a souvenir in my hand luggage. I could only throw it away or check it in because it could be used as a weapon in the aircraft. The stone was about the size, shape and weight of a hamburger patty. In the same hand luggage I had my camera with tele zoom lens on, weighing about 2 and a half lbs. Yes, I agree, with a lot of phantasy and force even a stone from the beach can be use as a weapon, but which thing could not be used as a weapon, even with a pillow or with headphones you can suffocate somebody.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/what-kind-of-pie-is-that-the-tsa-agent-demanded/comment-page-3/#comment-30650</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the same government that can&#039;t run the post office, can&#039;t run home security, and now they want to run our health care...we are in big, big trouble...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the same government that can&#8217;t run the post office, can&#8217;t run home security, and now they want to run our health care&#8230;we are in big, big trouble&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MarcoN</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/what-kind-of-pie-is-that-the-tsa-agent-demanded/comment-page-3/#comment-29800</link>
		<dc:creator>MarcoN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the stories above about TSA and having dealt first hand with TSA, FEMA and three other government agencies, all  I can say is, personnel at all of them have competency &quot;issues&quot;.  I have lost all faith in the federal government managing anything effectively, much less efficiently.  Perhaps George Will was right when he said that the last truly successful government program was WWII.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the stories above about TSA and having dealt first hand with TSA, FEMA and three other government agencies, all  I can say is, personnel at all of them have competency &#8220;issues&#8221;.  I have lost all faith in the federal government managing anything effectively, much less efficiently.  Perhaps George Will was right when he said that the last truly successful government program was WWII.</p>
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		<title>By: WendyLou</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/what-kind-of-pie-is-that-the-tsa-agent-demanded/comment-page-3/#comment-29756</link>
		<dc:creator>WendyLou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 06:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While traveling on my military dependent ID I used the bag that also served as my lunch/breast pump bag to take these things to work.  The TSA agents went nuts over a FRUIT CUP.  Clearly labeled DOLE. Clearly with fruit cocktail in it.  I explained the bag was my lunch bag and I had forgotten that a fruit cup was in the side pouch on the outside of the bag (typically used for cell phones or a bottle.) I offered immediately to throw it away, as I had NO idea how long it had been in the side of my bag.  Nope, that wouldn&#039;t work, they had to call a supervisor.  I was not allowed to touch my belongings at this time, meaning I was standing there in my socks and t-shirt with my laptop, cameras, ipod, and other valuables sitting out in the open. Supervisor comes, starts to lecture me.  I again explain I forgot it was there, it is my lunch bag, and that I wish to throw it away. After talking to some one on the radio!!!! she gives me my fruit cup back, which I promptly and in front of them throw into the rather large trash can. 

All this for a fruit cup. 

Trust me, I felt Oh SO Safe after that little bit of security theater.  

What&#039;s more American than attacking apple pie?  Nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While traveling on my military dependent ID I used the bag that also served as my lunch/breast pump bag to take these things to work.  The TSA agents went nuts over a FRUIT CUP.  Clearly labeled DOLE. Clearly with fruit cocktail in it.  I explained the bag was my lunch bag and I had forgotten that a fruit cup was in the side pouch on the outside of the bag (typically used for cell phones or a bottle.) I offered immediately to throw it away, as I had NO idea how long it had been in the side of my bag.  Nope, that wouldn&#8217;t work, they had to call a supervisor.  I was not allowed to touch my belongings at this time, meaning I was standing there in my socks and t-shirt with my laptop, cameras, ipod, and other valuables sitting out in the open. Supervisor comes, starts to lecture me.  I again explain I forgot it was there, it is my lunch bag, and that I wish to throw it away. After talking to some one on the radio!!!! she gives me my fruit cup back, which I promptly and in front of them throw into the rather large trash can. </p>
<p>All this for a fruit cup. </p>
<p>Trust me, I felt Oh SO Safe after that little bit of security theater.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s more American than attacking apple pie?  Nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/what-kind-of-pie-is-that-the-tsa-agent-demanded/comment-page-3/#comment-27801</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, I actually saw a GOOD TSA crew a few months back...Coming out of San Antonio I was amazed these guys &amp; girls were uniformly polite &amp; explaining stuff to the passengers.  

Now Dulles is another matter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, I actually saw a GOOD TSA crew a few months back&#8230;Coming out of San Antonio I was amazed these guys &#038; girls were uniformly polite &#038; explaining stuff to the passengers.  </p>
<p>Now Dulles is another matter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Shari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Stephanie:  Well said.  I couldn&#039;t agree more.

If anyone wants to see the TSA at it&#039;s best, fly through Albuquerque (NM).  Every time I fly out of there, I encounter the rudest, dumbest, pushiest, and power-tripping TSA people.  JFK comes in a close second, but perhaps that&#039;s to be expected.

I cringe at the thought of my tax dollars funding the TSA.  I feel no safer now with all of the ridiculous rules than I did before they were all implemented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Stephanie:  Well said.  I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>If anyone wants to see the TSA at it&#8217;s best, fly through Albuquerque (NM).  Every time I fly out of there, I encounter the rudest, dumbest, pushiest, and power-tripping TSA people.  JFK comes in a close second, but perhaps that&#8217;s to be expected.</p>
<p>I cringe at the thought of my tax dollars funding the TSA.  I feel no safer now with all of the ridiculous rules than I did before they were all implemented.</p>
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		<title>By: Duke Nukem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duke Nukem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly! We know NOTHING about the TSA because the same old TSA, yes, the arrogant no-good-excuse-for-wasted-taxpayer-money agency created by the government, doesn&#039;t allow inquiring public to know more about the inner works of it. How about some accountability, people? How about a better explanation on why more than 3.4 ounces of WATER should not be carrried on-board? How about getting rid of idiot TSOs and only keep the professional ones? Like &quot;Explosives SME&quot;, who I&#039;m sure gets a kick out of keeping pumpkin pies for he and his buddies for lunch break time! Maybe Obama should go undecover and pass thru security...I wonder how he&#039;d be treated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly! We know NOTHING about the TSA because the same old TSA, yes, the arrogant no-good-excuse-for-wasted-taxpayer-money agency created by the government, doesn&#8217;t allow inquiring public to know more about the inner works of it. How about some accountability, people? How about a better explanation on why more than 3.4 ounces of WATER should not be carrried on-board? How about getting rid of idiot TSOs and only keep the professional ones? Like &#8220;Explosives SME&#8221;, who I&#8217;m sure gets a kick out of keeping pumpkin pies for he and his buddies for lunch break time! Maybe Obama should go undecover and pass thru security&#8230;I wonder how he&#8217;d be treated!</p>
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		<title>By: TJ Thornton</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ Thornton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time I flew my daughter and I had but one carryon.  We got pulled over for additional screening because of contraband. Oh my, I thought, I forgot that my 42&quot; metal circular knitting needles were in my bag!  Silly me, we had put both our quart bags of toiletries in the same carryon.  We had 2 bags.  The metal needles weren&#039;t mentioned. Lord knows we had 2 tubes of toothpaste between us, but hey, my knitting remained unscathed. I reminded myself of this insanity as I got extra pat downs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I flew my daughter and I had but one carryon.  We got pulled over for additional screening because of contraband. Oh my, I thought, I forgot that my 42&#8243; metal circular knitting needles were in my bag!  Silly me, we had put both our quart bags of toiletries in the same carryon.  We had 2 bags.  The metal needles weren&#8217;t mentioned. Lord knows we had 2 tubes of toothpaste between us, but hey, my knitting remained unscathed. I reminded myself of this insanity as I got extra pat downs.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin Franklin said it best: &quot;Those who are willing to surrender their freedoms for government protection deserve neither.&quot;

Over-reacting does nothing but desensitize the general public. Nobody will take threats on this country seriously if the attempts to secure us and our land are so outlandish they&#039;re comical.

Exploding pies. Really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin Franklin said it best: &#8220;Those who are willing to surrender their freedoms for government protection deserve neither.&#8221;</p>
<p>Over-reacting does nothing but desensitize the general public. Nobody will take threats on this country seriously if the attempts to secure us and our land are so outlandish they&#8217;re comical.</p>
<p>Exploding pies. Really?</p>
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		<title>By: Explosive SME</title>
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		<dc:creator>Explosive SME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jim Hall:  Haha, I had a good laugh from your post!  &quot;Rent-a-cop&quot;, eh?  Yeah, I suppose we should ignore my military service, especially the time I spent in Iraq disarming roadside IEDs and blowing up weapons and explosive caches.  Oh, and while we&#039;re at it, let&#039;s ignore my college degree, too!  Yay, now I&#039;m a rent-a-cop!

Seriously, though, if I am a &quot;typical TSA dude&quot;, as Jack Bauer put it, then you are a typical ignorant citizen.  What happened when we had private companies running our checkpoints?  You may remember a little event called 9/11.  As for the shoe example, perhaps you should do a little research.  Did it ever occur to you that maybe some airports use different equipment than others?  Or that different regions in the U.S. actually respond to localized/regionalized threats which might cause them to increase or decrease certain security measures?  No, you never thought about that because you don&#039;t have to.  It&#039;s not your job.  Plus, it&#039;s much easier and more fun to throw insults at a system or agency which you know nothing about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jim Hall:  Haha, I had a good laugh from your post!  &#8220;Rent-a-cop&#8221;, eh?  Yeah, I suppose we should ignore my military service, especially the time I spent in Iraq disarming roadside IEDs and blowing up weapons and explosive caches.  Oh, and while we&#8217;re at it, let&#8217;s ignore my college degree, too!  Yay, now I&#8217;m a rent-a-cop!</p>
<p>Seriously, though, if I am a &#8220;typical TSA dude&#8221;, as Jack Bauer put it, then you are a typical ignorant citizen.  What happened when we had private companies running our checkpoints?  You may remember a little event called 9/11.  As for the shoe example, perhaps you should do a little research.  Did it ever occur to you that maybe some airports use different equipment than others?  Or that different regions in the U.S. actually respond to localized/regionalized threats which might cause them to increase or decrease certain security measures?  No, you never thought about that because you don&#8217;t have to.  It&#8217;s not your job.  Plus, it&#8217;s much easier and more fun to throw insults at a system or agency which you know nothing about.</p>
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