Veteran frequent flier stripped of 46,000 AAdvantage miles — are they gone forever?

March 2, 2010

American Airlines knows how to contact Mary Ann Hall. And it does. Often. She gets fare sale notices and credit card pitches from the airline regularly, which doesn’t surprise her — she’s been an AAdvantage member since almost the very beginning.

But a funny thing happened when her miles were about to expire: American said nothing. And so, without so much as a warning, 46,000 of her hard-earned miles expired.

Here’s what happened to Hall, in her own words:

I have been an AAdvantage member for many years. I took my first trip on American in 1947 and I was one of the early members of their Junior Stewardess Club — a bit embarrassing, now that I am 75 years of age, but it shows the immense loyalty and affection I have had for American all of these years.

When I went to check on my mileage, which should have been around 46,000 miles, it showed that I had zero miles in my account. I called them up and was told that after 18 months of no activity, they cancel the miles. Then, I asked them why they didn’t let me know of such a “rule,” and was told they sent it to me in an e-mail, to which I responded, “If I ever would have received something like that in an e-mail, I would have taken care of it right away and not let my mileage lapse.”

I then told them that they send me all sorts of advertising at least two-to-three times each week, why couldn’t they have contacted me the same way?

Do you think that you would be able to help me?

Yes, I can.

I realize that I’ve been taking some heat in the comments of my site for helping people who should have known better, and that’s fine. But I, for one, buy Hall’s argument that American could have done a better job letting her know her miles were about to expire. I believe airlines intentionally say as little as possible about expiring miles because they want miles to expire. (And for good reason — the industry has trillions of unredeemed miles out there.)

I contacted American on behalf of Hall, a loyal and longtime customer. A few days ago, I got the following email from her:

I have had a couple of telephone calls from American Airlines today, the last one was at 7:08 this evening and was from Terra Clark, from their AAdvantage Desk. She was wonderful, Chris, and even will see that I receive my mileage back (a one-time thing, as she explained it).

Heaven knows my level of appreciation for your work in my behalf knows no bounds right now. How does one simply say, “Thank you,” to a non-emotional computer screen, when I am positively jubilant!?! Thank you, Chris.

I’m happy to help, and grateful to American for reversing its decision.

American could have done a better job of letting her know her miles were about to vanish, but beyond that, the airline certainly should have been able to see the value of returning 46,000 miles to someone who had been flying American for more than 60 years, when she initially contacted the company.

And Mary Ann, I’d recommend using your miles as soon as possible. Next time they expire, American might not be so generous.

(Photo: Anke L/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • http://everything-everywhere.com Gary Arndt

    Actually, given how often rules can change for rewards programs, I really don’t fault her at all in this. Given when she probably earned them, there might not have been an expiration date on the miles at all at the time.

  • Karen Kinnane

    This is where using an airlines credit card is helpful, or registering your frequent flyer account with a dining club and eating out occasionally. You’re bound to add a few or many miles per year and not risk losing such a big amount of miles. If Mary Ann got an American Airlines credit card she’d get that big miles bonus for taking the card, and then miles for using it. If a credit card isn’t acceptable, using “MyPoints” or “e-rewards” would create sufficient account activity to keep the account from expiring with no money changing hands. A lot of people forget about this expiration business.

  • Ann

    You said it yourself – she should have known better. I get an email from American every month that tells me my miles will expire 18 months after the last activity date. I’m sorry her ignorance was rewarded.

  • Mike

    Ann, there may not have even been a clause in the miles program that said they expired when she earned them, as pointed out earlier. Also, I don’t know how these companies send out e-mails but I would venture to guess that there are customers who get certain e-mails that some do not based on their preferences and flying history. Fact is, you do not take a long time customer and toss away their loyalty. That is the point here.

  • Joel Wechsler

    I’m with Ann 100% on this. My wife is a very infrequent flier but uses her AAdvantage credit card from time to time to keep the account alive. She gets the reminder emails often enough to prevent her from losing her miles due to account inactivity. Inattention, ignorance and age are no excuse.

  • Thalassa

    Like Ms. Hall, I get a ton of junk mail from American, as well as an email two or three times a week. I’ve never been notified about when or if my miles will expire. I don’t particularly care, because I have so few of them, and frankly, I’ve never cared to fly American. I’ve flown for business, and that’s why I have their miles.

    Chris, you did a good job this time!

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    I went to my AAdvantage account and listed on my account is the aAAdvantage Mileage Retention Policy: AAdvantage members must have mileage earning or redemption activity once every eighteen (18) months in order to remain active and retain their miles.

    If Ms. Hall is a veteran frequent flyer as she was touted by Chris Elliott, a veteran frequent flyer knows that their miles expires if there is no activity after a period of time (18 months or 24 months depending upon the program).

    I treat my miles and points as ‘currency’ or as an ‘asset’. Some people might disagree with me but the miles do show up as a liability on an airline books. The bottom line is that airline and hotel companies can change their programs at will; therefore, if you have miles and points and you are planning to use them in the future, you must monitor your accounts for changes and etc.

    I am a member of six airline frequent flyer programs and am a member of over eight hotel loyalty programs. Over the past twenty years, I have received notification of changes to these programs via mail or e-mail. In addition, there are forums designated for specific airline and hotel programs that you can join which makes sense especially if you have a lot of miles and/or points. While most of these changes benefited the airline or hotel…at least that I was notified over the years.

    The bottom line is that if you have airline miles or hotel points, you need to manage them and be accountable for your actions or lack of actions.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Karen Kinnane: There are so many ways to earn miles (e-miles, e-Rewards, buying a magazine subscription with miles, credit cards, dining, online shopping, newspapers, flowers, etc) that it is hard not to earn miles. There are ways to earn miles without spending money (i.e. e-miles, eRewards, etc.)

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Ann: You are right. I don’t know why Chris Elliott is championing these individuals. Back in September 2009, he championed an individual, Kenneth Miller, who didn’t check his account for more than two years and was surprised that he lost his Delta.

  • Wrona

    It was nice of them to give her a one time exception.

    But I don’t know how much clearer they could be on the fact that the miles expire on a certain date. I get my mileage statement by email every month from American. It clearly states when my miles will expire. When I log into my Advantage account on AA.com, it clearly shows when my miles will expire. And it doesn’t just state eighteen months, it actually says the date they will expire so there is no question as to when the 18 months is up. And if you have any doubt, there is a clear link right below the mileage balances that says AAdvantage Mileage Retention Policy where you can read all the details. When they added the expiration dates (back in 2007), I got several notices by email and mail about the policy so they didn’t try to hide it.

  • http://rjtalestold.blogspot.com/ Dick Jordan

    My wife and I have share a United credit card and I have a separate one (for business) from Alaska Airlines. Each of us has our own frequent flier program account with each airline. But miles earned from purchases made with the credit cards only apply to my frequent flier account, so if she hasn’t used or earned miles during the year I buy some for her account at the end of the year to make sure none of her miles expire.

  • SWL

    What people have said about American clearly showing the expiration date on the website is true, although I’m still amazed at the arrogance of some of the posters that can’t understand how anyone could be unaware of changes made to a program.

    But how about US Airways – I don’t get anything from them telling me when my miles expire. The only reason I know it’s 18 months is from reading this website/blog. And when I go to their website, I can’t find anything that shows the expiration date, all I can do is search for my most recent activity. Anyone care to defend US Air? Or clue me in as to where I can find the expiration date for my miles with them?

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Mike – “Ann, there may not have even been a clause in the miles program that said they expired when she earned them, as pointed out earlier.” In the old days, your miles never expired but all of the airlines changed the rules (which they could change the rules per the terms of their FF program) on these miles. For example, when Delta changed the ‘never expired miles’ to 18-months miles, Delta sent me several notifications stating the change.

    @ Mike: “Also, I don’t know how these companies send out e-mails but I would venture to guess that there are customers who get certain e-mails that some do not based on their preferences and flying history.” If you don’t know then research…contact AA, go to their website and etc. before making assumptions. I like facts not emotions, opinions and etc.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ SWL – “But how about US Airways – I don’t get anything from them telling me when my miles expire.”

    It seems like you have not sign up for the US Airways Dividend Miles e-Statement. Every month, I receive my US Airways Dividen Miles e-Statement which clearly states when my miles will expire.

    On my January US Airways Dividend Miles e-Statement that I received in February, it stated “To keep your account active, earn miles before 07/30/2011.”

  • AdventureGirl

    Good luck even using those miles. American has devalued miles drastically over the past few years. 46,000 miles likely won’t even get a domestic roundtrip ticket these days, unless of course one can fly at the most inconvenient times, such as 6am or on the red-eye.

    How about an article on this, Chris? I am sitting on 500k+ (yes, over half a million) AA frequent flyer miles that are practically impossible to use. With the increasing complexity of redeeming awards and the devaluation of miles, I haven’t been able to successfully book an award in over two years.

    I’ve had many years of consecutive elite-tier status (Exec Platinum) and even I can’t get a break in terms of using the miles. I won’t even resort to using miles for upgrades to the exhorbitant cash co-pays that are now required.

  • Amanda

    Why is everyone so hostile? Ann is sorry that this woman’s “ignorance was rewarded?” Sheesh. Apparently failing to monitor our frequent flier accounts is a very offensive thing these days. Calm down, guys. It was nice of American to restore Ms. Hall’s miles, especially since she’s been a loyal customer since nineteen-forty-freaking-seven.

  • JP

    Chris, I think you did a good thing. If getting those miles back helps her take a trip – to see children, grandchildren, friends, etc. – that she might not otherwise have been able to take, it was worth your effort.

  • Susan Barrett

    American did the same thing to me, it was over 50,000
    miles that were lost. I just am not using that credit card
    anymore. I did not get any emails either, but they send
    emails for all their other promotions and get a weekly
    letter in the mail from CitiCards to open another cc acct.

  • Carver

    @Amanda

    I’m with you.

    Chris is truly blessed to have such a following of perfect people who never make mistakes, never misread something, manage their frequent flyer accounts with perfect precision and diligence.

    Basically, Ms. Hall make sone frequent flyer mistake since 1947 and she’s ignorant, unworthy of Chris’s assistance, etc.

    Sheesh. When did we become Flyertalk?

  • Julie

    I completely agree with Amanda. Why the hostility and indignation? Why would Chris ever help someone who made an honest mistake? Please. The point of this story, as I see it, is customer service. Customer service is not always about going “by the book”. Here we have a 75 year old person who has been loyal to an airline for many years (rare nowadays). Given her years of loyalty, should AA make a one-time exception to restore her miles? I say yes. Unfortunately, it took an ombudsman stepping in to get it done. It costs AA just about nothing to do it, and it’s good PR, which she will most certainly champion to her friends and family. If she repeatedly allows her miles to expire, and asks to have them restored, that is a different issue.
    To all of you who are so offended that this woman received help, here’s to hoping you never make a mistake.

  • SWL

    Arizona Road Warrior March 2, 2010 at 11:46 am

    It seems like you have not sign up for the US Airways Dividend Miles e-Statement. Every month, I receive my US Airways Dividen Miles e-Statement which clearly states when my miles will expire.

    Thanks, Road Warrior. Still can’t figure out why I can’t find that info anywhere on the website though. I’ve e-mailed US Air and they are supposed to reply in 4-5 days!!

  • Sean

    I usually don’t agree when Mr. Elliott gets involved in these sort of “causes”, but this time I have to agree with him helping get the miles back. I think the expiration of miles is basically theft from the frequent flier. It reminds me of “gift cards” that devalue over time when they aren’t used. I paid to earn those miles, they should be mine, regardless if I use them in 18 months or 18 years. I fully understand that the program is open to change, but if the airlines want to offer reward miles, and in as many different ways you can earn them, they should be willing to honor them.
    If the airline wants to cancel frequent flier miles, then “deflation” of the value should stop and it would be possible for those that have them to use them and not cost as much. But since I know people who have several 100K miles (and rarely fly) due to credit and debit cards rewards, the number of frequent flier miles out there is probably growing exponentially.

  • Christopher Elliott

    @Carver, this isn’t turning into FlyerTalk. Not on my watch.

  • sweepergrl

    Geez, I’m hesitant to even post something about this. I’m not a frequent flyer, only flying a couple of times a year. I am a member of the frequent flyer clubs for AirTran, Northwest (now Delta) and American. AirTran updates me quarterly and I received 3 notices warning my points were about to expire. When Delta took over Northwest, I received an email telling me that and essentially nothing else. I went to their website and left confused. American has sent me nothing but ads.
    Truly, I don’t fly enough to accumulate points worth anything. However, AirTran has been the only one to be upfront and honest about it.
    BTW, I’ll never sign up for their credit cards. Even if you pay off the balance each month, you still have to pay an annual fee. Not worth it.

  • http://http/aol.com barbie45

    Carver, You are of the few people on this forum is compassionate. Some of these people are just nasty and and are quick to jump on anyone who does not share their opinion. There are many who are envious because some people received a break. Keep up your logical and well thought out comments.

  • Sarah Di

    Stuff happens. You miss an e-mail or accidentally throw away a letter. She made a mistake and the airline was kind enough to reward her loyalty. I know that I lost miles before and I’m sure a lot of people have, especially if they don’t fly often. She’s 75 years old and she made a mistake. Give her a break.

    It should be up to the airlines to make sure that everyone is aware of that deadlines. There is no reason that they can’t make it very clear in an e-mail instead of letting it slip between the other bunches of e-mails that people get from hotels and airlines advertising the latest sale or promotion.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ SWL: “Thanks, Road Warrior. Still can’t figure out why I can’t find that info anywhere on the website though.”

    You are correct…US Airways does not put your mileage expiration date on your online account. However, the mileage expiration date is listed on the monthly Dividend Miles e-Statement. If I was running US Airways, I would put the expiration date on your online account in addition to the the monthly Dividend Miles e-Statement. Other airlines like AA and Delta do put your expiration date on your account.

  • Wrona

    Oh and for those of you that get multiple emails from AA but don’t get your Mileage statement by email – or don’t notice it, here is how to solve that problem.

    Log into your account on AA.com. Go to the Email and Fare Alerts Tab. Click Subscribe next to AAdvantage eSummary* to get emails about your mileage balance. Click unsubscribe next to all the other ones and you won’t get as many emails from American.

  • http://www.roamingtales.com Caitlin @ Roaming Tales

    @Arizona Road Warrior I think the difference is that you seem to be a professional member of Frequent Flyer schemes. You are in six airline loyalty schemes and eight hotel loyalty schemes and you say yourself that you treat your points like an asset. Whereas Mary Ann Hall is a loyal American Airlines customer who had accrued a lot of points over a lifetime of flying one airline. You know what? American Airlines set up its loyalty scheme to reward and retain *loyal* customers like Hall, not people like you. Hall might not be as slick as you at knowing all the ins and outs of how the schemes but she didn’t do anything wrong. I’m not saying you did anything wrong either but it’s ludicrous for you to argue that everyone who joins a frequent flyer scheme should be like you!

    When deciding how to handle point expiry, the airline should go back to what it is trying to achieve with its loyalty scheme. Presumably it is trying to keep its best customers loyal, without letting too many unredeemed points weigh down its balance sheet. It makes absolute business sense for the airline to use its discretion in reinstating points. For example, I joined Flying Blue (Air France and KLM) when I flew from London to Africa and I have some 46,000 unused points on my account, which I’d like to use but as I’m now living in California the opportunity hasn’t arisen. The thing is that I don’t really fly Air France or KLM regularly so when and if the points expire, the airline will be clearing its balance sheet but NOT losing a loyal customer. That’s quite different to Hall and her 60 years of loyalty to American Airlines.

  • http://www.roamingtales.com Caitlin @ Roaming Tales

    @AdventureGirl American Airlines is part of One World. You might be able to redeem your points on Qantas or British Airways. Go on holiday to Australia – you won’t regret it!

  • Phillye

    @Amanda
    Thank you for being the voice of reason… such hostility I just don’t understand!
    I am in the top 10% of all flyers in my company of over 100k people, a lifetime AAdvantage member based on earning over 1 million miles and on a plane sometimes more then on the ground. That being said, I totally understand the rudeness and “perfect” people that have been posting here. I see/hear them all the time in the airports, on the planes etc.

    Whatever happened to if you have nothing nice to say…???

    I cannot wait until the people making these comments turn 75, what will they say/do then? I do not understand why all these people are so fast to defend the actions of the corporation over the individual (75 or not)!

    @Chris, I love your site, your voice on behalf of those of us that are so “stupid” that we actually make mistakes that big companies take advantage of.

    THANK YOU and PLEASE keep up the excellent work!

  • Kevin M

    Chris,

    For what it’s worth, this is the first “rescue my miles” story I’ve seen you run in a long time that I felt was justified, if only because of the woman’s long, LONG history with AA. But I understand the frustration a lot of people are feeling; many of us go through a lot of hoops to keep miles from expiring during periods when we’re not traveling on a particular airline much. We make a concerted effort to play by the rules, and then someone who pleads ignorance (not necessarily this case, but…) comes along and with some wheedling and pleading, they get their miles restored.

    The fact that so many of them can immediately find you to advocate for them tells me some of them know perfectly well their miles are expiring; they just don’t do anything about it figuring they’ll try the “oh I’m so surprised” route. (If they read even a tiny fraction of your travel columns, they’d know this is a big issue and they’ve long since checked to find out if their own miles expire soon.)

  • william2009

    On the other hand, I’m a member of US Air’s loyalty program, and they haven’t sent me an update in over a year. Fortunately, I do remember to include some activity every year.

    I think Chris’ efforts were appropriate.

  • Kevin M

    On the plus side of things: @AdventureGirl, I’m not sure where you’re trying to go on your miles, but I can assure you, if I had 500,000 AA miles available to me, I could find a lot of destinations to visit, even if I had to use the “rulebuster” rates. If you’re looking for first-class to Hawaii or Australia, or to Europe at the peak of the season, of course you’re not going to find much. But to claim you can’t find tickets to go anywhere at all, except 6 AM and red-eye flights, in a two year period is just ludicrous.

  • Phillye

    @AdventureGirl What are you talking about??? It is easier then ever to book an American miles trip online. You can even book a muti-city trip using miles, something that required agent assist everytime in the past.
    What I think you meant to say was “you could book a trip using miles, that suited your time/schedule”? Is that the case?
    Let me see, even at 50k miles (for anytime coach, or advance first) if you and another person go that would be only 5 trips using your miles.
    If your really having that hard a time, I’d be more then happy to take those 500k miles from you and donate them to a charity.
    :)

  • LeeAnne

    Count me in with Carver, Amanda, and barbie45! (Yes, I actually agree with Barbie on this one – will wonders never cease?) ;-)

    Sheesh, y’all are a tough crowd. What a bunch of grinches. After being a loyal customer since nineteen-forty-freaking-seven (LOVE that line, Amanda!) methinks she’s entitled to a little flexibility. Kudos to Christopher for helping her get some.

    And let’s not forget that many people in that age range are not quite as computer-savvy as those of us who grew up with them, so it’s completely understandable how she might have missed the notification.

    So how about a little humanity in here folks?

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Caitlin of Roaming Tales: “I think the difference is that you seem to be a professional member of Frequent Flyer schemes. “

    I travel for business (over 100+ flights a year and over 100+ hotel nights). While I try to fly one airline and stay at one hotel chain, that is not always possible; therefore, the need to be a member of other airline and hotel loyalty programs. It is very common for business travelers to be members of several airline and hotel loyalty programs. Even if I fly an airline only a few times a year, it make sense to join the FF since a non-elite loyalty member will receive better service than a passenger who is not a loyalty member at all.

    @ Caitlin of Roaming Tales: “Whereas Mary Ann Hall is a loyal American Airlines customer who had accrued a lot of points over a lifetime of flying one airline.” 46,000 miles is a lot of miles? If all of her miles are actual flight miles (no miles from credit cards, car rentals, hotel stays and etc.) and using 750 miles as the average miles per flight, these miles represents 61 flights (46,000 miles divided by 750 miles)…that is a year of flying to reach Gold status with most US based airlines. It is my guess that she took a round-trip flight on AA every year or every few years…nothing is wrong with that but 46,000 miles is not a lot of miles.

    @ Caitlin of Roaming Tales: “You know what? American Airlines set up its loyalty scheme to reward and retain *loyal* customers like Hall, not people like you.” The airlines and hotels make their money from business travelers. They want to attract and reward business travelers who flies 50+ flights a year, purchase last minute tickets typically at the highest fare, purchase first class tickets on domestic flights, purchase first class and business class tickets on international flights and etc.

    @ Caitlin of Roaming Tales: “I’m not saying you did anything wrong either but it’s ludicrous for you to argue that everyone who joins a frequent flyer scheme should be like you!” You don’t have to join a FF program. No one forces you to join one. However, if you join a FF program then it is your responsibility to monitor your account, keep up with the changes and etc. IF you put value on your airline miles or hotel points. If you don’t care about losing your airline miles or hotel points then do nothing. However, if you assign a value to them like a need these miles for a trip or etc then it is your responsibility to monitor your account, keep up with the changes and etc.

  • Carver

    @barbie

    Thanks

    @Kevin M

    I know to us frequent fliers this seems like a no-brainer, but I know from nearly personal experience that this happens to folks. A close friend of mine, a physician no less, was a long time, yet relatively infrequent AA flier at the time. He had accumulated 30k miles and was hoarding them to take a trip to see his folks. He was very surprised to learn that miles expired. And this guy is otherwise really sharp. He spent days getting his miles reinstated. I can assure you that he didn’t have a clue that the miles had expired.

    I understand that many people see miles as any aother commodity to be managed. But I submit that if you are reading this column, you are not the average leisure traveller. Many infrequnt, but otherwise fiercely loyal, folks hoard miles with the intention of taking a dream vacation in the future.

    I think that 18 months is an unreasonably short time frame. Also, I think that the airlines should allow you to reinstate your miles for a nominal processing fee. That way, the airlines can get rid of miles for people who are truly never going to use them, yet keep them for people who are loyal, yet infrequent.

  • Noah

    Ann said, “I’m sorry her ignorance was rewarded.”

    It’s not clear to me how Mary Ann’s “ignorance was rewarded.” It seems to me that she’s in the exact same place she would have been had she not been ignorant: she is able to use her miles. In other words, her ignorance wasn’t “rewarded;” she just wasn’t punished for it. I might agree with Ann’s statement if Mary Ann had gotten double miles. But she didn’t. She was just restored to where she would have been had she known the rule.

    I really have no problem with Chris helping people like this. But I do think people should take more responsibility to know the terms and conditions of expensive/valuable programs of which they are members.

  • Mike

    @ Arizona Road Warrior -”In the old days, your miles never expired but all of the airlines changed the rules (which they could change the rules per the terms of their FF program) on these miles. For example, when Delta changed the ‘never expired miles’ to 18-months miles, Delta sent me several notifications stating the change.”

    And “If you don’t know then research…contact AA, go to their website and etc. before making assumptions. I like facts not emotions, opinions and etc.”

    Yet you seem to make these very same emotions, opinions etc. You ASSUME that when she earned these miles, the airlines had language in their FF clubs that stated they could change the rules whenever they wanted. Fact is that until recently (last 20 years or so, maybe shorter) these companies (not just airlines) never thought up the scam that they could take back these so called rewards by telling their customers that they could change their terms whenever they wanted. This is a fairly recent trend in business meant to maximize profits and get customer and even potential customers to continue to earn them money even if they aren’t doing business directly with them. So until you can PROVE to me that American actually had these restrictions in place when she earned her miles and that American SENT her those e-mails (which others also claim to have not gotten) I suggest you take it easy and have some compassion for someone who has been a life long customer.

  • LeeAnne

    @Arizona Road Warrier – You wrote: “It is my guess that she took a round-trip flight on AA every year or every few years…nothing is wrong with that but 46,000 miles is not a lot of miles.”

    You made a pretty big leap to assume that these 46,000 miles are ALL she’s ever earned! She’s been an American Airlines traveler since 1947. Didn’t it occur to you that, over the course of all these decades, she might have actually redeemed some of the miles she’s accumulated? So she hasn’t traveled in the past 18 months – for pete’s sake she’s 75. Travel gets a little more challenging as we get older. (I should know – I travel frequently with my 73-yr-old mother, and it’s getting harder and harder on her.)

    When you use such bad logic in a post, it tends to cause all of your posts to lose credibility.

  • Carver

    @Arizona

    As I’ve mentioned before, you are obviously a professional traveler. I do not believe that it is appropriate to apply the same standards to an infrequent, but loyal customer that would apply to a professional traveler.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Carver – “Many infrequent, but otherwise fiercely loyal, folks hoard miles with the intention of taking a dream vacation in the future.” If this is their intention, they should keep up with their account; keep up with the changes and etc. on a regular basis.

    @ Carver – “Also, I think that the airlines should allow you to reinstate your miles for a nominal processing fee.” Delta allows you to reinstate your miles for a flat fee of $ 53.75.

    @ Carver – “I think that 18 months is an unreasonably short time frame.” There are so many ways to earn miles without flying in order to keep your miles active so it is hard to justify a longer time frame. You can use an airline branded credit card to earn miles. If you can’t qualify for a credit card, you can have an airline branded debit card to earn miles. You can earn miles if you like to watch videos (i.e. Netflix). You can earn miles from eating out. You can earn miles by sending flowers. You can earn miles by buying gifts cards from Sears, Barnes & Noble, Macy and etc. You can buy office supplies from Office Max. You can keep your miles active by donating miles to a charitable organization. You can keep your miles active by using miles to purchase a magazine subscription. You can earn miles with e-miles and e-Rewards by answering surveys (doesn’t cost any money except for your time).

  • http://www.rockcheetah.com/blog/ RobertKCole

    I had 37,000 miles US Airways expire recently. True, it was within their rights and true, I had not flown them during the past 18 months. I would have flown them more often, but they had dramatically reduced the number of seats flown from my home city.

    As a result, US Airways killed the relationship. Their message was clear: we no longer value the city you live in, or you as a customer.

    Am I upset that I lost the miles? A little. Five years ago, I was one of their platinum frequent flyers, flying a weekly roundtrip over six consecutive months. I had also been a member of their frequent flyer program since the 1980′s. When I earned most of them, the miles did not expire.

    Even knowing that I could have the miles reinstated by booking a flight on any of the half dozen trips I made over the past 3 months, I could not find a single US Airways flight that was competitive in terms of price or schedule – despite actively looking for one. Why would I waste the money to save barely enough miles for a capacity-controlled roundtrip flight?

    No, I was also not interested in getting a USAirways credit card to salvage the miles. Why should I reward a company that is abandoning me by generating profits for them on every credit transaction I make? Sorry.

    Instead, I have decided to repay their disloyalty by avoiding the airline whenever possible for both business and personal travel. Why? Because at one time, we had a relationship and US Airways has made it clear that I needed to put out or get out.

    No, the relationship is over. I feel cheap, used. Crawling back to them, begging for forgiveness by booking a trip or getting a credit card is demeaning at this point.

    Instead, I will make a clean break and fly one of the other carriers that seems to be more interested in my business and increasing my lifetime value as a customer. One doesn’t charge me for luggage; another bakes me cookies; on a third, the frequent flyer miles never expire.

    Over the long term, I think US Airways will miss my business a lot more than I will miss flying on their planes.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ LeeAnne – “You made a pretty big leap to assume that these 46,000 miles are ALL she’s ever earned!“ This is how it was implied in the article when I read it. At least I stated that it was my guess not a fact. There was nothing in the article stating that she was a million-miller FF, spent $ 20,000 a year for airline tickets when she was traveling and/or etc. The only thing that was stated that she took her first flight in 1947 when she was 12 year-old (could have been 11 depending upon the month of her birth…2010 – 75 = birth year of 1935) year old on AA.

    @ LeeAnne – “She’s been an American Airlines traveler since 1947. Didn’t it occur to you that, over the course of all these decades, she might have actually redeemed some of the miles she’s accumulated?” That is a possibility and it did occur to me but I made a guess that wasn’t it. The AA AAdvantage program was started in 1981 (actually it was the first frequent flyer program in the US); therefore, miles started to accumulate in 1981 (assuming that she took any flights that year) not 1947.

    @ LeeAnne – “So she hasn’t traveled in the past 18 months – for pete’s sake she’s 75.” It could have been more than 18 months. The AA customer service rep said that her miles were cancelled because she had no activity for 18 months. Her last flight or miles activity (if she earned miles other than flying) could have been longer than that. It is my guess that her miles were cancelled 18 months from the date in 2007 when AAdvantage was changed in regards to the expiration of miles. Again, nothing was stated in the article when her miles were actually expired\cancelled.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ RobertKCole: After America West purchased US Airways, there have been several changes to the FF program, changes to the operations and etc. that were not customer friendly, not FF friendly and etc. I know several elite FFs in the PHX area that left US Airways and gave up their direct flights to make connections in DEN, SLC, DFW or IAH over these changes.

  • Carver

    @Arizona

    “If this is their intention, they should keep up with their account; keep up with the changes and etc. on a regular basis. ”

    Why?

  • Matilda Katt

    When American Airlines bought TWA a decade or so ago, they wiped out all of the TWA miles. TWA’s miles were lifetime miles that would never expire. American Airlines did not honor that commitment. I have flow AA only once since then when I had to travel and had no choice.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Carver – ““If this is their intention, they should keep up with their account; keep up with the changes and etc. on a regular basis. ” Why?”

    If someone is hoarding miles for an once in a lifetime trip, it makes sense to know that you will have enough miles, have miles and/or etc. for that trip instead of finding out at the ‘last minute’ that you don’t have miles, don’t have enough miles and/or etc.

  • Lisa S

    @Arizona Road Warrior

    I haven’t had problems using my AAdvantage miles to travel internationally. Domestic travel is the problem. I used 45K miles to fly first class to Quito, Ecuador and economy back. I highly recommend going to the Galapagos Islands. If I were Mary Ann Hall, that is how I would use my miles.

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