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	<title>Comments on: Two important warnings for Americans using their credit cards in Europe</title>
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		<title>By: Nita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just returned from 3 weeks in Germany and France and used my Citibank cc card with no problems.  However, I did not use it often as I always go to an ATM to buy euros.  In the past I&#039;ve called my cc card issuer and informed them of my travel dates and countries I&#039;d planned to visit, but this time I did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just returned from 3 weeks in Germany and France and used my Citibank cc card with no problems.  However, I did not use it often as I always go to an ATM to buy euros.  In the past I&#8217;ve called my cc card issuer and informed them of my travel dates and countries I&#8217;d planned to visit, but this time I did not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the chip issue in a restaurant in Malaysia. We did not have enough cash to cover the check, it was late and there was no convenient ATM machine around. I insisted that they could swipe the card the old fashioned way, but they insisted their machine no longer had the swipe slot capability. I suggested they call the local Visa issuer to get approval, but they claimed they could not do that either. The end result was that they allowed us to leave without paying for the meal with our assurance we would return the next day to pay in cash. We did exactly that and they were not too surprised that we did return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the chip issue in a restaurant in Malaysia. We did not have enough cash to cover the check, it was late and there was no convenient ATM machine around. I insisted that they could swipe the card the old fashioned way, but they insisted their machine no longer had the swipe slot capability. I suggested they call the local Visa issuer to get approval, but they claimed they could not do that either. The end result was that they allowed us to leave without paying for the meal with our assurance we would return the next day to pay in cash. We did exactly that and they were not too surprised that we did return.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Hanuschak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Hanuschak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My sister was in England two years ago, and ran into this chip issue with her credit card. All of the merchants were kind and worked to put her transactions through using a different machine. There was certainly some confusion, but no real problem, and they all learned something. She did a lot of shopping on that trip to Bristol, so everybody was happy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister was in England two years ago, and ran into this chip issue with her credit card. All of the merchants were kind and worked to put her transactions through using a different machine. There was certainly some confusion, but no real problem, and they all learned something. She did a lot of shopping on that trip to Bristol, so everybody was happy!</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am on the phone with Bank of America as I write this and they have no clue about the chip-enabled cards. American Express was extremely rude to me on the phone just now about the situation. When I tried to explain that yes, I understood I could use my Amex overseas, but that I still might need the chip, the representative said &quot;but you can use your card in England&quot;. !!!! I asked to be transferred to a manager and the man hung up on me. I&#039;ve never had such terrible customer service from American Express. They&#039;ve always had the bar raised higher than all the others. 

This PIN number and chip-enabled card issue has them completely confused. When are we going to catch up with the rest of the world!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am on the phone with Bank of America as I write this and they have no clue about the chip-enabled cards. American Express was extremely rude to me on the phone just now about the situation. When I tried to explain that yes, I understood I could use my Amex overseas, but that I still might need the chip, the representative said &#8220;but you can use your card in England&#8221;. !!!! I asked to be transferred to a manager and the man hung up on me. I&#8217;ve never had such terrible customer service from American Express. They&#8217;ve always had the bar raised higher than all the others. </p>
<p>This PIN number and chip-enabled card issue has them completely confused. When are we going to catch up with the rest of the world!?</p>
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		<title>By: Sex on the Beach, French Chateaus and the Eiffel Tower &#124; Venere Travel Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sex on the Beach, French Chateaus and the Eiffel Tower &#124; Venere Travel Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to Europe with a credit card? Will it work? Christopher Elliot offers some hands-on tips and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all well and good to say you will need to convince the merchant to call the card authorisation centre; this works nicely in England.  However, when you&#039;re travelling in Poland -- or Albania -- or Slovenija, where there are likely big language barriers, this is not always possible.

I have never been forced to enter a PIN, but I have had to have arguments with merchants in rural areas -- this was specifically a problem in Switzerland -- about the fact that chip-and-PIN is NOT standard in America and that I could not get a chipped card even if I begged for it.

It is worth mentioning that you should ALWAYS have cash on you.  There have been many times where I tried to use my US-based cards in Europe (either credit, or ATM) only to find that the communications between the EU banking system and the US authorisation system was down (usually at the weekend, too) and I couldn&#039;t use my cards.  This caused us massive heartburn in Barcelona, where the communications failures lasted through a bank holiday and we ended up down to our last E0,80 in cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all well and good to say you will need to convince the merchant to call the card authorisation centre; this works nicely in England.  However, when you&#8217;re travelling in Poland &#8212; or Albania &#8212; or Slovenija, where there are likely big language barriers, this is not always possible.</p>
<p>I have never been forced to enter a PIN, but I have had to have arguments with merchants in rural areas &#8212; this was specifically a problem in Switzerland &#8212; about the fact that chip-and-PIN is NOT standard in America and that I could not get a chipped card even if I begged for it.</p>
<p>It is worth mentioning that you should ALWAYS have cash on you.  There have been many times where I tried to use my US-based cards in Europe (either credit, or ATM) only to find that the communications between the EU banking system and the US authorisation system was down (usually at the weekend, too) and I couldn&#8217;t use my cards.  This caused us massive heartburn in Barcelona, where the communications failures lasted through a bank holiday and we ended up down to our last E0,80 in cash.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when traveling to ireland last year, i informed capital one of my travel dates.  the rep was helpful in letting me know that a pin # starting with &quot;0&quot; may not work.  my husband tested this out &amp; it turned out to be true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when traveling to ireland last year, i informed capital one of my travel dates.  the rep was helpful in letting me know that a pin # starting with &#8220;0&#8243; may not work.  my husband tested this out &amp; it turned out to be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, Great story.

I always contact my credit card companies, as well as my bank, each time I travel abroad to let them know where I&#039;ll be and when. 

I learned my lesson the hard way when my ATM card didn&#039;t work and my credit card was turned down. It wasn&#039;t because of insufficient funds or lack of payment. It was because they were a little overzealous in their attempts to &quot;protect&quot; me, even though if they&#039;d checked my previous travel patterns, they would have seen I had been to these places before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, Great story.</p>
<p>I always contact my credit card companies, as well as my bank, each time I travel abroad to let them know where I&#8217;ll be and when. </p>
<p>I learned my lesson the hard way when my ATM card didn&#8217;t work and my credit card was turned down. It wasn&#8217;t because of insufficient funds or lack of payment. It was because they were a little overzealous in their attempts to &#8220;protect&#8221; me, even though if they&#8217;d checked my previous travel patterns, they would have seen I had been to these places before.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband and I just returned from Germany and Austria and I was also in England for a week a few months ago. I was aware of the &quot;chip&quot; issue. However, I had no trouble using my cards abroad. At retailers and restaurants, the counter clerk or server will swipe your card and then you will sign the credit card slip. In train stations, or subway stations, some machines may not accept your card. If there is an attendant on duty, then the attendant is able to swipe your card and allow you to sign the credit card slip. And, for those stations without an attendant, as a previous commenter said, always carry a little backup cash, or be prepared to pop up out of the station to find an ATM. Lastly, it can really pay to take out a good amount of cash upon arrival and keep it in a hidden money belt on your person, as credit card convenience fees for converting Euros to Dollars can cost you at least 3% of the purchase price of an item or meal. Research your daily bank limits for withdrawing cash and any fees your bank may charge before you leave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband and I just returned from Germany and Austria and I was also in England for a week a few months ago. I was aware of the &#8220;chip&#8221; issue. However, I had no trouble using my cards abroad. At retailers and restaurants, the counter clerk or server will swipe your card and then you will sign the credit card slip. In train stations, or subway stations, some machines may not accept your card. If there is an attendant on duty, then the attendant is able to swipe your card and allow you to sign the credit card slip. And, for those stations without an attendant, as a previous commenter said, always carry a little backup cash, or be prepared to pop up out of the station to find an ATM. Lastly, it can really pay to take out a good amount of cash upon arrival and keep it in a hidden money belt on your person, as credit card convenience fees for converting Euros to Dollars can cost you at least 3% of the purchase price of an item or meal. Research your daily bank limits for withdrawing cash and any fees your bank may charge before you leave.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling before a trip to Europe?  My husband and I had our AMEX card suspended when we ventured out of state (from CO to Nebraska).  I called them in-route to find out what the problem was and they assured me that they had not suspended my card - but made a record that I was travelling in multiple states for the holiday weekend.  We continued trying to use it but finally gave up.  When I got home, I had two phone calles from AMEX, so I finally called them back.  They told me my card was suspended because we stopped in multiple states for gas (the motorcycles have to have gas every 100 miles).  They suggested I let them know next time about my travel plans.  In the future, I&#039;ll either use case - or rotate my purchases among different cards.  Apparently, buying fuel frequently sets off the fraud alerts and causes your card to be suspended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calling before a trip to Europe?  My husband and I had our AMEX card suspended when we ventured out of state (from CO to Nebraska).  I called them in-route to find out what the problem was and they assured me that they had not suspended my card &#8211; but made a record that I was travelling in multiple states for the holiday weekend.  We continued trying to use it but finally gave up.  When I got home, I had two phone calles from AMEX, so I finally called them back.  They told me my card was suspended because we stopped in multiple states for gas (the motorcycles have to have gas every 100 miles).  They suggested I let them know next time about my travel plans.  In the future, I&#8217;ll either use case &#8211; or rotate my purchases among different cards.  Apparently, buying fuel frequently sets off the fraud alerts and causes your card to be suspended.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visa, MasterCard, and Amex all say that ANY retailer that accepts their cards must accept swipe-and-sign transactions. Have any reluctant merchant call their card authorization center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visa, MasterCard, and Amex all say that ANY retailer that accepts their cards must accept swipe-and-sign transactions. Have any reluctant merchant call their card authorization center.</p>
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		<title>By: merchant</title>
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		<dc:creator>merchant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>simple: shell out cash, or keep moving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>simple: shell out cash, or keep moving.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info.  I just called my bank and got them to issue a PIN on my credit card, while at the same time informing them of my travel dates and countries for my trip to Europe in the fall.  Since my card is due to be re-issued prior to my trip, I did ask if it was going to be chip-enabled.  I don&#039;t have a &quot;big name&quot; bank, so I wasn&#039;t holding my breath when I asked them.  The answer was of course no.

Any hints on what to do if I do run across a merchant in Europe that requires a chip on my card?  I&#039;m traveling to Paris, Burgundy, Switzerland, Austria, Venice, Florence and Rome.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info.  I just called my bank and got them to issue a PIN on my credit card, while at the same time informing them of my travel dates and countries for my trip to Europe in the fall.  Since my card is due to be re-issued prior to my trip, I did ask if it was going to be chip-enabled.  I don&#8217;t have a &#8220;big name&#8221; bank, so I wasn&#8217;t holding my breath when I asked them.  The answer was of course no.</p>
<p>Any hints on what to do if I do run across a merchant in Europe that requires a chip on my card?  I&#8217;m traveling to Paris, Burgundy, Switzerland, Austria, Venice, Florence and Rome.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got a new card from Citibank - I&#039;d asked them in May if they were going to include a chip on this one - nope!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got a new card from Citibank &#8211; I&#8217;d asked them in May if they were going to include a chip on this one &#8211; nope!</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had problems buying petrol in US gas stations because I don&#039;t have a US mailing address and a zip code.   It means I have to go inside get the machine turned out, go out, gas up, go in, pay, go back to car.

As for PIN numbers I&#039;ve used them in all sorts of countries, not just Europe.   In Canada a couple of years ago I had to teach a retailer how to use their terminal to deal with my chip and Pin enabled card.

Telling your bank you&#039;re going abroad doesn&#039;t always stop problems.   I&#039;ve had 2 occasions when I&#039;ve had to call home despite telling my bank where and when I will be travelling because they stopped the card.   Personally, I see it as an irritant because I&#039;d rather know my bank is looking out for me than just allowing anything to happen.

Now, PIN in Europe.   I can only talk with any authority about the UK because that is where I live.   An acquaintance runs a shop in the UK.   When CHIP/PIN became &quot;mandatory&quot; he was very careful to tell me next time I bought from him I would have to know my PIN.   I pointed out to him that there are still cards with no embedded CHIP.  I asked him how he was going to sell to people from abroad who didn&#039;t have a CHIP/PIN card.   He looked a bit nonplussed so I suggested he phone his bank and ask.   Next time I saw him he thanked me because he had discovered that despite all the propaganda about CHIP/PIN being mandatory it wasn&#039;t true.   The bank told him that there are such things as CHIP/Signature cards (something to do with some disabilities) and yes, cards without a CHIP or a disabled CHIP were still acceptable by the old swipe/sign method.   I&#039;ve learned when abroad that sometimes you need to get the retailer to phone their authorisation centre to overcome issues such as this.   If they want your business, they&#039;ll do it.   If not, do you want to do business with them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had problems buying petrol in US gas stations because I don&#8217;t have a US mailing address and a zip code.   It means I have to go inside get the machine turned out, go out, gas up, go in, pay, go back to car.</p>
<p>As for PIN numbers I&#8217;ve used them in all sorts of countries, not just Europe.   In Canada a couple of years ago I had to teach a retailer how to use their terminal to deal with my chip and Pin enabled card.</p>
<p>Telling your bank you&#8217;re going abroad doesn&#8217;t always stop problems.   I&#8217;ve had 2 occasions when I&#8217;ve had to call home despite telling my bank where and when I will be travelling because they stopped the card.   Personally, I see it as an irritant because I&#8217;d rather know my bank is looking out for me than just allowing anything to happen.</p>
<p>Now, PIN in Europe.   I can only talk with any authority about the UK because that is where I live.   An acquaintance runs a shop in the UK.   When CHIP/PIN became &#8220;mandatory&#8221; he was very careful to tell me next time I bought from him I would have to know my PIN.   I pointed out to him that there are still cards with no embedded CHIP.  I asked him how he was going to sell to people from abroad who didn&#8217;t have a CHIP/PIN card.   He looked a bit nonplussed so I suggested he phone his bank and ask.   Next time I saw him he thanked me because he had discovered that despite all the propaganda about CHIP/PIN being mandatory it wasn&#8217;t true.   The bank told him that there are such things as CHIP/Signature cards (something to do with some disabilities) and yes, cards without a CHIP or a disabled CHIP were still acceptable by the old swipe/sign method.   I&#8217;ve learned when abroad that sometimes you need to get the retailer to phone their authorisation centre to overcome issues such as this.   If they want your business, they&#8217;ll do it.   If not, do you want to do business with them?</p>
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