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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;They laughed at me and told me to move to the end of the counter&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Gerlach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Gerlach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 05:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

I&#039;d just like to address a few points mentioned in the comments:

My tone was honestly just as stated in my letter: polite but business-like -- frustrated (as anyone would be in missing a connection and being told that they&#039;re going to have to sit in a near-empty terminal for 4 hours) but not at all indignant.  As a saavy businessperson/traveler would, I politely stated requests thusly: &quot;I would like..&quot;

..rather than pleading like a little kid at a candy store hoping I might get my own way.. &quot;Puhhleeeaaasee??&quot;  :)

Their response was just as stated: dismissive, abrasive, and &quot;I want to be preened, you&#039;re gonna be the one to do it.&quot;  Maybe it was a full moon, I don&#039;t remember.. ha.

Thalassa asked a relevant question: &quot;How loudly was he making his call to Greyhound customer service, and what sort of language was he using?&quot;

...to which I would respond: not loud at all, and no language was used; I was actually typing -- not speaking -- my call to Greyhound Customer Service via Relay on my BlackBerry, at the end of the counter as requested.

After speaking with me, the Transit Police Officer was... ah.. interestingly chummy (good friends?) with the woman predominately involved in the situation at the front counter.  That might be why he treated me like he did: evidently, a call from the front counter to their in-station Police is taken at its word, regardless of the reality of a situation.

As for my girlfriend, she was inconvenienced in that she was already planning on staying up past midnight (on a work night) to pick me up... and then to be told she has to wait 4 more hours to pick me up was twice inconveniencing her.

&#039;Love&#039; didn&#039;t mind being inconvenienced, this time.  ;)

Long story short, folks: if you&#039;re gonna travel Greyhound, by all means don&#039;t travel when their limited-hours Customer Service is unavailable by phone, and have the number handy: http://www.greyhound.com/en/contactus.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to address a few points mentioned in the comments:</p>
<p>My tone was honestly just as stated in my letter: polite but business-like &#8212; frustrated (as anyone would be in missing a connection and being told that they&#8217;re going to have to sit in a near-empty terminal for 4 hours) but not at all indignant.  As a saavy businessperson/traveler would, I politely stated requests thusly: &#8220;I would like..&#8221;</p>
<p>..rather than pleading like a little kid at a candy store hoping I might get my own way.. &#8220;Puhhleeeaaasee??&#8221;  :)</p>
<p>Their response was just as stated: dismissive, abrasive, and &#8220;I want to be preened, you&#8217;re gonna be the one to do it.&#8221;  Maybe it was a full moon, I don&#8217;t remember.. ha.</p>
<p>Thalassa asked a relevant question: &#8220;How loudly was he making his call to Greyhound customer service, and what sort of language was he using?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;to which I would respond: not loud at all, and no language was used; I was actually typing &#8212; not speaking &#8212; my call to Greyhound Customer Service via Relay on my BlackBerry, at the end of the counter as requested.</p>
<p>After speaking with me, the Transit Police Officer was&#8230; ah.. interestingly chummy (good friends?) with the woman predominately involved in the situation at the front counter.  That might be why he treated me like he did: evidently, a call from the front counter to their in-station Police is taken at its word, regardless of the reality of a situation.</p>
<p>As for my girlfriend, she was inconvenienced in that she was already planning on staying up past midnight (on a work night) to pick me up&#8230; and then to be told she has to wait 4 more hours to pick me up was twice inconveniencing her.</p>
<p>&#8216;Love&#8217; didn&#8217;t mind being inconvenienced, this time.  ;)</p>
<p>Long story short, folks: if you&#8217;re gonna travel Greyhound, by all means don&#8217;t travel when their limited-hours Customer Service is unavailable by phone, and have the number handy: <a href="http://www.greyhound.com/en/contactus.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.greyhound.com/en/contactus.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: BucksterSF</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/they-laughed-at-me-and-told-me-to-move-to-the-end-of-the-counter/comment-page-1/#comment-63120</link>
		<dc:creator>BucksterSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 02:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word:  Greyhound.  The third world of travel in the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word:  Greyhound.  The third world of travel in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: MidMom8949</title>
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		<dc:creator>MidMom8949</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you travel the East Coast, take Amtrak rather than the bus (or flying).  Wonderful and cheap.  

My kids in NY take Mega bus from Penn Station to either Baltimore or DC (and I know it goes elsewhere).  If you book in advance, you get a reserved seat, AND more important for students, they often ride for $2 (yes, two), with nice accommodations and wifi.

After much difficulty with Greyhound, none of them will use Greyhound again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you travel the East Coast, take Amtrak rather than the bus (or flying).  Wonderful and cheap.  </p>
<p>My kids in NY take Mega bus from Penn Station to either Baltimore or DC (and I know it goes elsewhere).  If you book in advance, you get a reserved seat, AND more important for students, they often ride for $2 (yes, two), with nice accommodations and wifi.</p>
<p>After much difficulty with Greyhound, none of them will use Greyhound again.</p>
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		<title>By: barbie45</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbie45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carrie; good luck; never did Greyhound; but have traveled Amtrack twice ugh. I had a sleeper on route from DelrayBeach FL to BC Vancouver; well the food was excellent ;but the rest of the trip was a nighmare; no private batroom,and the public ones were filthy; if you think turbulence is bad on a plane well forget it on Amtrack;The service in a sleeper horrible ;in fact emplyees just hung out in smoking area just playing cards etc,Do not plan on arriving on time;because Amtrack does not own the tracks ;therefore Amtrack must wait; It was very expensive and I had very little time in BC Vancouver; In fact Ikept a log of every incident and reported it to Amtrack; I was given a 500.00 voucher SO in the spring I decided it to use it on a trip to Savannah well I had a super deluxe sleeper with toilet and shower; Ttip up fine Trip back air conditioning not functioning in any deluxe; After much complaining the conductor gave me a voucher for the second half; The train sops were in the slummiest part of town; For the most part I missed alot of scenery because it was to dark; The clientale in coach which is cheap on some runs was well sleazy. Good luck .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carrie; good luck; never did Greyhound; but have traveled Amtrack twice ugh. I had a sleeper on route from DelrayBeach FL to BC Vancouver; well the food was excellent ;but the rest of the trip was a nighmare; no private batroom,and the public ones were filthy; if you think turbulence is bad on a plane well forget it on Amtrack;The service in a sleeper horrible ;in fact emplyees just hung out in smoking area just playing cards etc,Do not plan on arriving on time;because Amtrack does not own the tracks ;therefore Amtrack must wait; It was very expensive and I had very little time in BC Vancouver; In fact Ikept a log of every incident and reported it to Amtrack; I was given a 500.00 voucher SO in the spring I decided it to use it on a trip to Savannah well I had a super deluxe sleeper with toilet and shower; Ttip up fine Trip back air conditioning not functioning in any deluxe; After much complaining the conductor gave me a voucher for the second half; The train sops were in the slummiest part of town; For the most part I missed alot of scenery because it was to dark; The clientale in coach which is cheap on some runs was well sleazy. Good luck .</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie Charney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie Charney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish this had been printed last week. I&#039;m taking Greyhound from Bend, OR to Portland tomorrow, then hopping on Amtrak to Seattle. I would have flown, but I wanted to experience the scenery from ground level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish this had been printed last week. I&#8217;m taking Greyhound from Bend, OR to Portland tomorrow, then hopping on Amtrak to Seattle. I would have flown, but I wanted to experience the scenery from ground level.</p>
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		<title>By: Oregon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oregon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a friends three day ride on Greyhound we had a shirt made that explains his whole experience  &quot;friends don&#039;t let friends ride Greyhound&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a friends three day ride on Greyhound we had a shirt made that explains his whole experience  &#8220;friends don&#8217;t let friends ride Greyhound&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer (the other one)</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/they-laughed-at-me-and-told-me-to-move-to-the-end-of-the-counter/comment-page-1/#comment-26158</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer (the other one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Lowest form of transportation on Earth?&#039;  Yep.  I rode Greyhound between the Bay Area and LA exactly once, and resolved never to do it again.   The other passengers are downright scary.  While waiting for a connection, I wanted to take out my laptop and watch a movie, but as I looked at the type of people crowded around me, I thought the better of it and left it in my backpack.  The worst, though, was having to decide whether I&#039;d rather spend the night in the LA bus station, or wander around central LA at 2 a.m. looking for a cheap hotel.  I suppose Greyhound provides a valuable service for those who need to travel and can&#039;t afford to do so in a civilized manner, but for me, from now on, if I can&#039;t afford to fly, then I simply can&#039;t afford the trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Lowest form of transportation on Earth?&#8217;  Yep.  I rode Greyhound between the Bay Area and LA exactly once, and resolved never to do it again.   The other passengers are downright scary.  While waiting for a connection, I wanted to take out my laptop and watch a movie, but as I looked at the type of people crowded around me, I thought the better of it and left it in my backpack.  The worst, though, was having to decide whether I&#8217;d rather spend the night in the LA bus station, or wander around central LA at 2 a.m. looking for a cheap hotel.  I suppose Greyhound provides a valuable service for those who need to travel and can&#8217;t afford to do so in a civilized manner, but for me, from now on, if I can&#8217;t afford to fly, then I simply can&#8217;t afford the trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the tone and/or content of this letter makes people think the writer was lying or behaving poorly?  I didn&#039;t get that impression at all.  It seems to me that more and more companies are getting heavy handed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the tone and/or content of this letter makes people think the writer was lying or behaving poorly?  I didn&#8217;t get that impression at all.  It seems to me that more and more companies are getting heavy handed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve taken the bus many times in my life, from different parts of the U.S. and in Europe.  I&#039;ve never had a problem within the U.S., although I had a particularly nasty encounter with a bus driver, in all places, Assisi, Italy.  That doesn&#039;t mean that I won&#039;t encounter such a problem in the future.  Mass transportation of all forms seems to be degenerating in civility.  Thanks for the article, Chris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken the bus many times in my life, from different parts of the U.S. and in Europe.  I&#8217;ve never had a problem within the U.S., although I had a particularly nasty encounter with a bus driver, in all places, Assisi, Italy.  That doesn&#8217;t mean that I won&#8217;t encounter such a problem in the future.  Mass transportation of all forms seems to be degenerating in civility.  Thanks for the article, Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Ozols</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Ozols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Chris 

I think we&#039;ve taken the same bus across Turkey. My ride from Istanbul to Damascus was memorable for the scenery, friendly people, free lemon cologne at every stop, and unbelievable amount of cigarette smoking done by every single passenger on board but me. Holy emphysema, Batman. 

But I stand behind my comment. A bus, compared to a train, airplane, or private taxi, is clearly the inferior of the group. That doesn&#039;t mean I don&#039;t still take them, but I do so because they are cheap. And since you&#039;ve never taken a bus in the U.S., may I direct you to New York&#039;s Port Authority Bus Terminal? It&#039;s quite breathtaking (meaning you&#039;ll want to hold your breath the entire time you&#039;re there).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Chris </p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ve taken the same bus across Turkey. My ride from Istanbul to Damascus was memorable for the scenery, friendly people, free lemon cologne at every stop, and unbelievable amount of cigarette smoking done by every single passenger on board but me. Holy emphysema, Batman. </p>
<p>But I stand behind my comment. A bus, compared to a train, airplane, or private taxi, is clearly the inferior of the group. That doesn&#8217;t mean I don&#8217;t still take them, but I do so because they are cheap. And since you&#8217;ve never taken a bus in the U.S., may I direct you to New York&#8217;s Port Authority Bus Terminal? It&#8217;s quite breathtaking (meaning you&#8217;ll want to hold your breath the entire time you&#8217;re there).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in NC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in NC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Victor...

&quot;lowest form of transportation on earth?&quot; I have taken bus fares many times (granted, it was all in other countries), and have not had any complaints. Just because someone is taking the bus does not mean shoddy or inept customer service. 

My memorable experience was taking the a bus from Istanbul across Turkey. We choose the bus instead of an airplane because the bus would take us directly to the town, and it was an overnight trip (saved us time). The agent assured us it was super luxurious, and I guess it was. The seat was comfortable and the bus was even air conditioned. I didn&#039;t expect to see chickens on the bus though. Couldn&#039;t argue with the fare, it was only $9 round trip!

With the continued pulling out of smaller markets by airlines, bus travel may just make a comback here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Victor&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;lowest form of transportation on earth?&#8221; I have taken bus fares many times (granted, it was all in other countries), and have not had any complaints. Just because someone is taking the bus does not mean shoddy or inept customer service. </p>
<p>My memorable experience was taking the a bus from Istanbul across Turkey. We choose the bus instead of an airplane because the bus would take us directly to the town, and it was an overnight trip (saved us time). The agent assured us it was super luxurious, and I guess it was. The seat was comfortable and the bus was even air conditioned. I didn&#8217;t expect to see chickens on the bus though. Couldn&#8217;t argue with the fare, it was only $9 round trip!</p>
<p>With the continued pulling out of smaller markets by airlines, bus travel may just make a comback here!</p>
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		<title>By: Noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this story highly suspect.  While I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if the Greyhound workers overreacted to something, I suspect Gerlach did more than refuse to sit down to get them to call the cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this story highly suspect.  While I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if the Greyhound workers overreacted to something, I suspect Gerlach did more than refuse to sit down to get them to call the cops.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Ozols</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Ozols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the situation, happy for the resolution. Still, we&#039;re talking about the bus here, the lowest form of transportation on earth. When your average passenger is an ex-con fresh from prison (and me, heading to D.C.), your counter employees tend to be surly. He&#039;s lucky he didn&#039;t get shanked along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the situation, happy for the resolution. Still, we&#8217;re talking about the bus here, the lowest form of transportation on earth. When your average passenger is an ex-con fresh from prison (and me, heading to D.C.), your counter employees tend to be surly. He&#8217;s lucky he didn&#8217;t get shanked along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Travel-Writers-Exchange.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travel-Writers-Exchange.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people &quot;Go Greyhound&quot; each year.  They better read this article before they book their next trip.  As far as the girlfriend being inconvenienced, I wouldn&#039;t think that &quot;love&quot; wouldn&#039;t mind being inconvenienced now and again :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people &#8220;Go Greyhound&#8221; each year.  They better read this article before they book their next trip.  As far as the girlfriend being inconvenienced, I wouldn&#8217;t think that &#8220;love&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t mind being inconvenienced now and again :)</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Steve, here you go: http://www.greyhound.com/contact.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Steve, here you go: <a href="http://www.greyhound.com/contact.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.greyhound.com/contact.shtml</a></p>
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