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	<title>Comments on: There&#8217;s something fishy going on at Mama&#8217;s Fish House in Maui</title>
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		<title>By: Disgusted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Disgusted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 15:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birds of a feather flock together.</description>
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		<title>By: tan bed lotions</title>
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		<dc:creator>tan bed lotions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 02:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it does not matter to me if where I would be going but what will matter is who am I with. Does that make any sense to you? Hope it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it does not matter to me if where I would be going but what will matter is who am I with. Does that make any sense to you? Hope it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 02:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live on Maui and this is really a coincidence. We just got home from lunch at Mama&#039;s a half hour ago.  Excellent food and service. My husband &amp; I save Mama&#039;s for very special occasions. It is over priced, but the atmosphere is special. 

The main flaw I see in this unfortunate incident is this:  You have absolutely no proof it happened at Mama&#039;s.  Could it have?  Yes for sure.   There actually are about 10 spaces available to park, which are assigned for local beach access. Guess, only locals know this.  It is true, if you&#039;re going to Mama&#039;s you can not use these spaces, you must use Mama&#039;s valet. The point is the  public spaces there, so there is public access in the lot .  

My guess  would be both cars were broke into in Paia. As the saying here goes.  &quot;When in Paia, do not feed the hippies&quot;  There are a lot of homeless people in that area. Drug use is high.  They live on the beaches in that area,  they used to live in some of the parking lots as well, Maui PD has made gains in getting them off the streets and lots, but they are still there. They have no problem spotting rental cars. If ones sees a convertible with the top down we locals know you are a tourist as do the thiefs. Usually, it is raining and the top is down, which makes it even easier to spot you. Vans and convertibles are hot targets for car break in here, especially in those areas the tourist frequent.  Is Maui any higher crime rate than the Mainland, I do not think so.  Most is petty crimes committed for drugs. 

Would be the same situation if you left valuables in your car  at Disneyland in the morning, then went out to another tourist attraction and left your car parked for hours, you really could not be sure which site had the break in. 

These slimy creatures have tools they carry that can get into just about any car by popping the trunk or the door.   Could have happened either place, Mama&#039;s or Paia, I vote for Paia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live on Maui and this is really a coincidence. We just got home from lunch at Mama&#8217;s a half hour ago.  Excellent food and service. My husband &amp; I save Mama&#8217;s for very special occasions. It is over priced, but the atmosphere is special. </p>
<p>The main flaw I see in this unfortunate incident is this:  You have absolutely no proof it happened at Mama&#8217;s.  Could it have?  Yes for sure.   There actually are about 10 spaces available to park, which are assigned for local beach access. Guess, only locals know this.  It is true, if you&#8217;re going to Mama&#8217;s you can not use these spaces, you must use Mama&#8217;s valet. The point is the  public spaces there, so there is public access in the lot .  </p>
<p>My guess  would be both cars were broke into in Paia. As the saying here goes.  &#8220;When in Paia, do not feed the hippies&#8221;  There are a lot of homeless people in that area. Drug use is high.  They live on the beaches in that area,  they used to live in some of the parking lots as well, Maui PD has made gains in getting them off the streets and lots, but they are still there. They have no problem spotting rental cars. If ones sees a convertible with the top down we locals know you are a tourist as do the thiefs. Usually, it is raining and the top is down, which makes it even easier to spot you. Vans and convertibles are hot targets for car break in here, especially in those areas the tourist frequent.  Is Maui any higher crime rate than the Mainland, I do not think so.  Most is petty crimes committed for drugs. </p>
<p>Would be the same situation if you left valuables in your car  at Disneyland in the morning, then went out to another tourist attraction and left your car parked for hours, you really could not be sure which site had the break in. </p>
<p>These slimy creatures have tools they carry that can get into just about any car by popping the trunk or the door.   Could have happened either place, Mama&#8217;s or Paia, I vote for Paia.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for theft at tourist areas, it happens all the time.
My issue is with Mama&#039;s Fish House, not about the theft, but about how extremely mediocre their food and service has become.   12 or 15 years ago, I&#039;d dream of going there for a wonderful, charming meal.  It seems that since they&#039;ve expanded, it is just another total tourist trap.  Everything is way overpriced, but that&#039;s actually to be expected.  What wasn&#039;t expected was that both the food and the service have become just average.  A real shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for theft at tourist areas, it happens all the time.<br />
My issue is with Mama&#8217;s Fish House, not about the theft, but about how extremely mediocre their food and service has become.   12 or 15 years ago, I&#8217;d dream of going there for a wonderful, charming meal.  It seems that since they&#8217;ve expanded, it is just another total tourist trap.  Everything is way overpriced, but that&#8217;s actually to be expected.  What wasn&#8217;t expected was that both the food and the service have become just average.  A real shame!</p>
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		<title>By: How to Prevent Theft on Vacation &#124; Maui Restaurants Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Prevent Theft on Vacation &#124; Maui Restaurants Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was reminded of this as I read this post about a recent &#8220;discussion&#8221; between a visitor and the owners of Mama&#8217;s Fish [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 01:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living on the West Coast, i&#039;ve been fortunate enough to visit Hawaii about twice a year over the last 12 years.  I have eaten at Mama&#039;s Fish House more times than I can count. I&#039;ve also had to leave my luggage in the trunk once or twice, but always bundled up what I couldn&#039;t bear losing (cameras, laptop, jewelry, etc) and brought it into the restaurant. 

As a small business owner myself, I found the owners&#039; letter to be pretty appalling.  While I don&#039;t believe Mama&#039;s should be responsible for paying for the stolen items, I also think responding with arrogance and disdain is not the way to engender goodwill.  Paragraph 3 is also super condescending (i.e. &quot;don&#039;t even TRY to publicize this, because it won&#039;t work and people will laugh at you and call you foolish, and that&#039;s what we think you are&quot;.)   Times are tough right now and Maui is suffering from a major tourism downturn.  With so many wonderful restaurant options on the island, I can&#039;t imagine why they would respond in this manner, and to a travel writer no less!  Yikes.

I haven&#039;t been going to Mama&#039;s lately, I feel the quality has been going downhill since my first visit. So i&#039;ve been visiting other restaurants on the island. (Just in case travelwrites threatens to support Mama&#039;s in a lawsuit against me for libel, I have to add that i&#039;m stating this as the humble opinion of one diner, not a fact.)  But if I ever get the urge again, I will remember that I should not under any circumstances leave ANYTHING in my car because I will get a very offensive reply from the owners if I write to them about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living on the West Coast, i&#8217;ve been fortunate enough to visit Hawaii about twice a year over the last 12 years.  I have eaten at Mama&#8217;s Fish House more times than I can count. I&#8217;ve also had to leave my luggage in the trunk once or twice, but always bundled up what I couldn&#8217;t bear losing (cameras, laptop, jewelry, etc) and brought it into the restaurant. </p>
<p>As a small business owner myself, I found the owners&#8217; letter to be pretty appalling.  While I don&#8217;t believe Mama&#8217;s should be responsible for paying for the stolen items, I also think responding with arrogance and disdain is not the way to engender goodwill.  Paragraph 3 is also super condescending (i.e. &#8220;don&#8217;t even TRY to publicize this, because it won&#8217;t work and people will laugh at you and call you foolish, and that&#8217;s what we think you are&#8221;.)   Times are tough right now and Maui is suffering from a major tourism downturn.  With so many wonderful restaurant options on the island, I can&#8217;t imagine why they would respond in this manner, and to a travel writer no less!  Yikes.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t been going to Mama&#8217;s lately, I feel the quality has been going downhill since my first visit. So i&#8217;ve been visiting other restaurants on the island. (Just in case travelwrites threatens to support Mama&#8217;s in a lawsuit against me for libel, I have to add that i&#8217;m stating this as the humble opinion of one diner, not a fact.)  But if I ever get the urge again, I will remember that I should not under any circumstances leave ANYTHING in my car because I will get a very offensive reply from the owners if I write to them about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hawaii Vacation Deals &#38; News Roundup: February 3, 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hawaii Vacation Deals &#38; News Roundup: February 3, 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PSA Time: My stomach gets balled up in a knot when I read stories like this one about break-ins on visitors&#8217; cars. It&#8217;s a sad reminder that you should never leave your [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think an unfortunate thing happened. Had the restaurant owner shown a little compassion, it wouldn&#039;t have wound up a national news story. I have been to Maui and plan on going back. I will avoid Mama&#039;s however, because I like places that have compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think an unfortunate thing happened. Had the restaurant owner shown a little compassion, it wouldn&#8217;t have wound up a national news story. I have been to Maui and plan on going back. I will avoid Mama&#8217;s however, because I like places that have compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most late model convertibles I&#039;ve seen have a mechanism that doesn&#039;t allow the trunk to be opened without the key. IMO, the valets are in on it.</description>
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		<title>By: WearyTraveler</title>
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		<dc:creator>WearyTraveler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin...  I think you missed reading some of those responses.  Per the OP (who braved entering this discussion), she had a beach bag in the trunk.  Not luggage.  The trunk can&#039;t be opened if the car was locked.  Police checked that as well as the OP.  No other evidence the vehicle was touched.  Everyone keeps digging on the convertible, but the mini-van was broken into as well.   I agree with LeAnne, it&#039;s fishy.  IMO, valet should not NEED to be told to watch the car.  That&#039;s their job.  I agree with Tom from NY...they&#039;ve created bailment.  I don&#039;t know many travelers who drag their beach gear into restaurants.  I&#039;m sure these people will next time.  Since this is a high-end restaurant with affluent clients (pictures of movie stars and other notables on the walls), you would think they would take security seriously.  If Paia is so bad and that&#039;s where their established business is located, hire more security.  According to internet sources, this is a $5mil operation.  Some profit could be thrown into keeping their customers safe.  

I bet there have been more than this incident in the past.  Tourists rarely just drive directly to Mama&#039;s and then go directly home.  They stop on their way to Hana or go to Paia, etc.  If there was one vehicle robbed, the victim might not even suspect Mama&#039;s had a hand in it.  I wouldn&#039;t have looked to them first if something went missing from my vehicle knowing how bad Paia has gotten.  It&#039;s the fact that both were robbed and they weren&#039;t parked by each other in Paia that&#039;s telling.

As for me, I won&#039;t be visiting Mama&#039;s during my next trip to Maui.  My friends and I go there once or twice a year.  My one friend likes Mama&#039;s.  I&#039;ve already showed her this article and she was appalled.  The restaurant obviously disdains the tourists that help keep them in business.  You would think the owner and marketing director would have better sense than to expose their true feelings in that response to Christopher Elliot. 

Unfortunately, Mama&#039;s doesn&#039;t appear to have learned anything from this, except the power of the internet has lost them some business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin&#8230;  I think you missed reading some of those responses.  Per the OP (who braved entering this discussion), she had a beach bag in the trunk.  Not luggage.  The trunk can&#8217;t be opened if the car was locked.  Police checked that as well as the OP.  No other evidence the vehicle was touched.  Everyone keeps digging on the convertible, but the mini-van was broken into as well.   I agree with LeAnne, it&#8217;s fishy.  IMO, valet should not NEED to be told to watch the car.  That&#8217;s their job.  I agree with Tom from NY&#8230;they&#8217;ve created bailment.  I don&#8217;t know many travelers who drag their beach gear into restaurants.  I&#8217;m sure these people will next time.  Since this is a high-end restaurant with affluent clients (pictures of movie stars and other notables on the walls), you would think they would take security seriously.  If Paia is so bad and that&#8217;s where their established business is located, hire more security.  According to internet sources, this is a $5mil operation.  Some profit could be thrown into keeping their customers safe.  </p>
<p>I bet there have been more than this incident in the past.  Tourists rarely just drive directly to Mama&#8217;s and then go directly home.  They stop on their way to Hana or go to Paia, etc.  If there was one vehicle robbed, the victim might not even suspect Mama&#8217;s had a hand in it.  I wouldn&#8217;t have looked to them first if something went missing from my vehicle knowing how bad Paia has gotten.  It&#8217;s the fact that both were robbed and they weren&#8217;t parked by each other in Paia that&#8217;s telling.</p>
<p>As for me, I won&#8217;t be visiting Mama&#8217;s during my next trip to Maui.  My friends and I go there once or twice a year.  My one friend likes Mama&#8217;s.  I&#8217;ve already showed her this article and she was appalled.  The restaurant obviously disdains the tourists that help keep them in business.  You would think the owner and marketing director would have better sense than to expose their true feelings in that response to Christopher Elliot. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, Mama&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t appear to have learned anything from this, except the power of the internet has lost them some business.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK let me see if I have this correct, you turned in your rental car, with the top down, and valuable items in the car (Yes, in the trunk but still in the car) to a valet that you have no working relationship with (Never been there before) You didn&#039;t ask the Valet (along with a fat tip) to keep an eye on your car, you just left the top down and walked away carefree.  Later you find your valuables missing.  And you think someone else is responsible for you leaving those valuables in the car in the first place and with the top down so anyone in a moment could get to them?  Or am I missing something? Why not leave your bags at the hotel?  Or if you had not checked in yet and your room wasn&#039;t ready most reasonable hotels would store your bags and take them to your room once your room was ready.  Or if you had already checked out and were having your Aloha dinner why not put the top up, lock the doors at the very least, or do that AND ask the valet to keep an eye on it.  Hell a 10.00 tip or a 20.00 compared to the cost of replacing your stuff may just have gotten your rental parked at the front door and your luggage still intact...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK let me see if I have this correct, you turned in your rental car, with the top down, and valuable items in the car (Yes, in the trunk but still in the car) to a valet that you have no working relationship with (Never been there before) You didn&#8217;t ask the Valet (along with a fat tip) to keep an eye on your car, you just left the top down and walked away carefree.  Later you find your valuables missing.  And you think someone else is responsible for you leaving those valuables in the car in the first place and with the top down so anyone in a moment could get to them?  Or am I missing something? Why not leave your bags at the hotel?  Or if you had not checked in yet and your room wasn&#8217;t ready most reasonable hotels would store your bags and take them to your room once your room was ready.  Or if you had already checked out and were having your Aloha dinner why not put the top up, lock the doors at the very least, or do that AND ask the valet to keep an eye on it.  Hell a 10.00 tip or a 20.00 compared to the cost of replacing your stuff may just have gotten your rental parked at the front door and your luggage still intact&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In New York, if they take your keys, they are responsible. They&#039;ve created a bailment.</description>
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		<title>By: barbie45</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbie45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honolulu, your comment about tourists who can afford to eat at Mamas means they can afford to repace their items is an arrogant comment. Years ago my husband and I were in Honolulu staing at the Hilton on Waiki Beach. Quite a picture watching so many people with gegiger counters trying to find lost jewels. I realize that food is more expensive on the island as compared to the mainland. What makes Mamas so exppensive. Is it the equivalent of a Michelin star or stars? How does it rate on a diamond scale? Think I will pass on a return visit. There are to many more desirable locations to visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honolulu, your comment about tourists who can afford to eat at Mamas means they can afford to repace their items is an arrogant comment. Years ago my husband and I were in Honolulu staing at the Hilton on Waiki Beach. Quite a picture watching so many people with gegiger counters trying to find lost jewels. I realize that food is more expensive on the island as compared to the mainland. What makes Mamas so exppensive. Is it the equivalent of a Michelin star or stars? How does it rate on a diamond scale? Think I will pass on a return visit. There are to many more desirable locations to visit.</p>
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		<title>By: chunkychow</title>
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		<dc:creator>chunkychow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many people in these comments say that it was wrong to leave the suitcases in the trunks. Should the people have taken their bags into the restaurant? What should they have done?  I have eaten at Mama&#039;s many years ago but won&#039;t now. Next time I will take a picnic and eat near the site (which is very pretty) and watch the windsurfers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many people in these comments say that it was wrong to leave the suitcases in the trunks. Should the people have taken their bags into the restaurant? What should they have done?  I have eaten at Mama&#8217;s many years ago but won&#8217;t now. Next time I will take a picnic and eat near the site (which is very pretty) and watch the windsurfers.</p>
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		<title>By: barbie45</title>
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		<dc:creator>barbie45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carver,as usual your post was probably the most logical response to the OP problem. Also I would like to add that since the restaurant caters to an affluentclientale the restaurant should assume a more pro-active system of protecting its clientale from crime. I also as Melissa stated believe that there could be some some sort of cooperation between the valets and the criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carver,as usual your post was probably the most logical response to the OP problem. Also I would like to add that since the restaurant caters to an affluentclientale the restaurant should assume a more pro-active system of protecting its clientale from crime. I also as Melissa stated believe that there could be some some sort of cooperation between the valets and the criminals.</p>
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