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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/the-results-were-nothing-short-of-remarkable/comment-page-1/#comment-37447</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW, quit blammin JOE.!
hE IS IS RIGHT 
when you book a flight, you are given details
if you dont like the details you dont pay nor book the flight !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, quit blammin JOE.!<br />
hE IS IS RIGHT<br />
when you book a flight, you are given details<br />
if you dont like the details you dont pay nor book the flight !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Barber</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/the-results-were-nothing-short-of-remarkable/comment-page-1/#comment-29005</link>
		<dc:creator>Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit late to this, but isn&#039;t it a bit of a stretch to (a) refer to United&#039;s decision as not making &quot;business sense&quot; (to you), or (b) comparing airline tickets to actual, physical things?

If it really didn&#039;t make business sense, then no airline would ever make exceptions at any time whatsoever.  Clearly airlines have become stricter about making exceptions, but they do make them.  Which means that sometimes it is considered to be good business sense, at least to them.  Even if it is &quot;just this once&quot;.

And comparing airline tickets to a Wii?  That&#039;s pretty apples to oranges.  An airline ticket is a service, not a product.  One of the advantages of purchasing a physical item is that if I don&#039;t want it any more, I can sell it to my brother or to a stranger for a price that the market will bear (sometimes even at a profit).  That way I can completely avoid restocking fees.  Can&#039;t do that with the type of ticket being discussed here - if I don&#039;t want that particular ticket anymore, I&#039;ve either completely lost the money/points or have to pay an additional fee.  Limits options somewhat more.  Making the analogy somewhat weaker than perhaps suggested.

And I do have a nice Christmas story.  Went to a beautiful, boutique hotel in the south of France for 2 days during a Christmas trip last year as newlyweds.  We paid for a standard room, but on each night we were upgraded to a suite with gorgeous views of the Mediterranean.  Seems this hotel had the policy that, if a better room went unfilled by a certain time (we figured it was 7 pm), they automatically upgraded guests to fill them up.  The hotel has a very small number of rooms (under 20), so it was probably easier for this to be handled then at a larger property.  We had never stayed there before, so it wasn&#039;t done due to loyalty - mostly just a way for them to build customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit late to this, but isn&#8217;t it a bit of a stretch to (a) refer to United&#8217;s decision as not making &#8220;business sense&#8221; (to you), or (b) comparing airline tickets to actual, physical things?</p>
<p>If it really didn&#8217;t make business sense, then no airline would ever make exceptions at any time whatsoever.  Clearly airlines have become stricter about making exceptions, but they do make them.  Which means that sometimes it is considered to be good business sense, at least to them.  Even if it is &#8220;just this once&#8221;.</p>
<p>And comparing airline tickets to a Wii?  That&#8217;s pretty apples to oranges.  An airline ticket is a service, not a product.  One of the advantages of purchasing a physical item is that if I don&#8217;t want it any more, I can sell it to my brother or to a stranger for a price that the market will bear (sometimes even at a profit).  That way I can completely avoid restocking fees.  Can&#8217;t do that with the type of ticket being discussed here &#8211; if I don&#8217;t want that particular ticket anymore, I&#8217;ve either completely lost the money/points or have to pay an additional fee.  Limits options somewhat more.  Making the analogy somewhat weaker than perhaps suggested.</p>
<p>And I do have a nice Christmas story.  Went to a beautiful, boutique hotel in the south of France for 2 days during a Christmas trip last year as newlyweds.  We paid for a standard room, but on each night we were upgraded to a suite with gorgeous views of the Mediterranean.  Seems this hotel had the policy that, if a better room went unfilled by a certain time (we figured it was 7 pm), they automatically upgraded guests to fill them up.  The hotel has a very small number of rooms (under 20), so it was probably easier for this to be handled then at a larger property.  We had never stayed there before, so it wasn&#8217;t done due to loyalty &#8211; mostly just a way for them to build customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Shari</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/the-results-were-nothing-short-of-remarkable/comment-page-1/#comment-28965</link>
		<dc:creator>Shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cassivella-  Per your store example, there&#039;s a simple solution:  don&#039;t shop at a store that charges such criminal restocking fee.  I don&#039;t.  99% of the time, I don&#039;t ever have to worry about returning something, but if I do, I don&#039;t want to have to pay for something they can turn around and sell.  Much as I try to stay away from airlines with poor customer service or who charge heavy fees for bags.  We as consumers don&#039;t always have to suck it up for companies, we can vote with out business.

@ Allison- It really is sad, isn&#039;t it?  Guess there will always be grinches out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cassivella-  Per your store example, there&#8217;s a simple solution:  don&#8217;t shop at a store that charges such criminal restocking fee.  I don&#8217;t.  99% of the time, I don&#8217;t ever have to worry about returning something, but if I do, I don&#8217;t want to have to pay for something they can turn around and sell.  Much as I try to stay away from airlines with poor customer service or who charge heavy fees for bags.  We as consumers don&#8217;t always have to suck it up for companies, we can vote with out business.</p>
<p>@ Allison- It really is sad, isn&#8217;t it?  Guess there will always be grinches out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, a holiday feel good story devolves into a bitter, technicality filled rant by a few people.  As an American Platinum person myself, I had to laugh at a certain person&#039;s inability to have the Platinum desk help him out.  I wonder why...

Everyone step back from the baggage claim!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, a holiday feel good story devolves into a bitter, technicality filled rant by a few people.  As an American Platinum person myself, I had to laugh at a certain person&#8217;s inability to have the Platinum desk help him out.  I wonder why&#8230;</p>
<p>Everyone step back from the baggage claim!</p>
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		<title>By: Nobody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nobody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Planes fly full these days.  What if you were the one bumped from the direct flight given to the elderly woman out of sympathy?  Probably wouldn&#039;t happen to the air warriors that post here, so that thought wouldn&#039;t occur to those of high mile status.
What if it were your mother or grandmother?
That probably would begin a post on a different topic that appears here frequently:  &quot;I can&#039;t believe that airlines couldn&#039;t accomodate us!  I&#039;ll never fly them again!  Never, ever!&quot;

A butterfly flaps his wings in Africa
The war lost for want of a nail
Knocked over by the domino fall an hour ago
All in the elevator affected by one fart
Here lies old age
Fifteen years older than me
RIP
Nobody was faster</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Planes fly full these days.  What if you were the one bumped from the direct flight given to the elderly woman out of sympathy?  Probably wouldn&#8217;t happen to the air warriors that post here, so that thought wouldn&#8217;t occur to those of high mile status.<br />
What if it were your mother or grandmother?<br />
That probably would begin a post on a different topic that appears here frequently:  &#8220;I can&#8217;t believe that airlines couldn&#8217;t accomodate us!  I&#8217;ll never fly them again!  Never, ever!&#8221;</p>
<p>A butterfly flaps his wings in Africa<br />
The war lost for want of a nail<br />
Knocked over by the domino fall an hour ago<br />
All in the elevator affected by one fart<br />
Here lies old age<br />
Fifteen years older than me<br />
RIP<br />
Nobody was faster</p>
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		<title>By: Cassivella</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/the-results-were-nothing-short-of-remarkable/comment-page-1/#comment-28886</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassivella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The people that disagree with this situation aren&#039;t anti-senior/disabled whatnot, we are saying it doesn&#039;t make business sense.

And, since most of the airlines have taken government bailouts in recent years, and since most of us here are frequent business travelers, we have a vested interest in seeing airlines that have a good business model.

@Eric and others - the $150 change fee is not charged for the 90 seconds of work it takes to initiate the change.  It is the hedge the airlines make that because you were holding onto a seat and now, since you want to change flights, that seat has a better chance of going unfilled/unpaid.

So, like Chris always says, if you want to stop seeing fees from airlines, then you better learn to figure out that a significant quantity of airline tickets are sold for a loss of profit.  If you don&#039;t want to pay fees, then buy the full or one of the refundable economy fares that better reflect the true cost of flying your butt from point A to point B.  Otherwise, it is a gamble.  If everything works in your favour, then you have purchased a ticket that (at least if you look historically) is at least 30% less than what it should cost.  If everything does not go well with your reservation gamble, then you need to reimburse the airline for that loss of profit that you just caused.

Here&#039;s a good example from another walk of life.  Let&#039;s say you go to a big box store and purchase the last Wii on the shelf before Christmas.  You hold onto it, and, for whatever reasons, your plans change, and you decide you don&#039;t want the Wii.  Chances are, when you return the Wii to the store, the store is going to charge you a &quot;restocking&quot; fee running somewhere between 10 and 30 percent of the product&#039;s value.  Do you really think it costs $30 for an employee to walk the Wii back to the shelf (ie, the &quot;90 seconds of work&quot;).  No, you are reimbursing the store for their loss of profit opportunity.  The store had a much better chance of selling that Wii before Christmas than it does after Christmas (unless it is marked down).  Just like the airlines had a much better chance of selling your seat prior to two weeks before the flight than they do the day before the flight.

So, if you don&#039;t like fees, then prepare to pay the fair market value of an airline ticket every time you fly.  Then we also won&#039;t have to deal with government bailouts, baggage charges, drink charges, and probably crew strikes due to cost cutting measures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people that disagree with this situation aren&#8217;t anti-senior/disabled whatnot, we are saying it doesn&#8217;t make business sense.</p>
<p>And, since most of the airlines have taken government bailouts in recent years, and since most of us here are frequent business travelers, we have a vested interest in seeing airlines that have a good business model.</p>
<p>@Eric and others &#8211; the $150 change fee is not charged for the 90 seconds of work it takes to initiate the change.  It is the hedge the airlines make that because you were holding onto a seat and now, since you want to change flights, that seat has a better chance of going unfilled/unpaid.</p>
<p>So, like Chris always says, if you want to stop seeing fees from airlines, then you better learn to figure out that a significant quantity of airline tickets are sold for a loss of profit.  If you don&#8217;t want to pay fees, then buy the full or one of the refundable economy fares that better reflect the true cost of flying your butt from point A to point B.  Otherwise, it is a gamble.  If everything works in your favour, then you have purchased a ticket that (at least if you look historically) is at least 30% less than what it should cost.  If everything does not go well with your reservation gamble, then you need to reimburse the airline for that loss of profit that you just caused.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a good example from another walk of life.  Let&#8217;s say you go to a big box store and purchase the last Wii on the shelf before Christmas.  You hold onto it, and, for whatever reasons, your plans change, and you decide you don&#8217;t want the Wii.  Chances are, when you return the Wii to the store, the store is going to charge you a &#8220;restocking&#8221; fee running somewhere between 10 and 30 percent of the product&#8217;s value.  Do you really think it costs $30 for an employee to walk the Wii back to the shelf (ie, the &#8220;90 seconds of work&#8221;).  No, you are reimbursing the store for their loss of profit opportunity.  The store had a much better chance of selling that Wii before Christmas than it does after Christmas (unless it is marked down).  Just like the airlines had a much better chance of selling your seat prior to two weeks before the flight than they do the day before the flight.</p>
<p>So, if you don&#8217;t like fees, then prepare to pay the fair market value of an airline ticket every time you fly.  Then we also won&#8217;t have to deal with government bailouts, baggage charges, drink charges, and probably crew strikes due to cost cutting measures.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With Parkinsons Disease, there&#039;s a gradual diminishment of mental acuity; I don&#039;t know if this is true with MS or not, but it may be a consideration in the son&#039;s decision to request a waiver of the fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With Parkinsons Disease, there&#8217;s a gradual diminishment of mental acuity; I don&#8217;t know if this is true with MS or not, but it may be a consideration in the son&#8217;s decision to request a waiver of the fees.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been reading through this with amusement, figuring (probably like most people out there) that it&#039;s nice that the extra non-stop mileage seat was opened up so that the passenger could switch plans and it was nice that the fee was waived, but that it was likely (as EricR so nicely put it) due to the alignment of the stars, not something anyone should expect regularly. And although I disagreed with his tone, I thought Joe Farrell really was making the latter point, but coupled with the idea that United went overboard in accommodating the passenger.

Then I read his bit about how if he were booking F class tickets, and they had upgrade seats available, he&#039;d ask for a &quot;complimentary&quot; upgrade. As they say, WTF? You&#039;re begrudging a woman United waiving her change fee, but you&#039;re willing to ask them to waive your upgrade fees? I realize you&#039;re a Platinum/Carbonite/Diamond FF member and so maybe you feel that people below that status should be grateful that the cattle car they&#039;re herded into these days actually goes to the place you paid for and not some work camp, but really, I don&#039;t think United&#039;s being nice to an older lady with a progressive debilitating disease, even if she knew she had it when she booked the tickets, is going to erode the benefits you already get from your exalted status. 

People ask businesses with whom they&#039;re dealing for special things all the time. As long as they don&#039;t expect it out of a sense of entitlement, I don&#039;t begrudge the business making a decision to accommodate someone, even for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading through this with amusement, figuring (probably like most people out there) that it&#8217;s nice that the extra non-stop mileage seat was opened up so that the passenger could switch plans and it was nice that the fee was waived, but that it was likely (as EricR so nicely put it) due to the alignment of the stars, not something anyone should expect regularly. And although I disagreed with his tone, I thought Joe Farrell really was making the latter point, but coupled with the idea that United went overboard in accommodating the passenger.</p>
<p>Then I read his bit about how if he were booking F class tickets, and they had upgrade seats available, he&#8217;d ask for a &#8220;complimentary&#8221; upgrade. As they say, WTF? You&#8217;re begrudging a woman United waiving her change fee, but you&#8217;re willing to ask them to waive your upgrade fees? I realize you&#8217;re a Platinum/Carbonite/Diamond FF member and so maybe you feel that people below that status should be grateful that the cattle car they&#8217;re herded into these days actually goes to the place you paid for and not some work camp, but really, I don&#8217;t think United&#8217;s being nice to an older lady with a progressive debilitating disease, even if she knew she had it when she booked the tickets, is going to erode the benefits you already get from your exalted status. </p>
<p>People ask businesses with whom they&#8217;re dealing for special things all the time. As long as they don&#8217;t expect it out of a sense of entitlement, I don&#8217;t begrudge the business making a decision to accommodate someone, even for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Wechsler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Wechsler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 15:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say I tend to agree with Joe F. Having looked at United&#039;s schedule of connecting flights from San Diego to Chicago, I found that they tend to be under five hours in total flying time, plus layovers of rarely more than an hour. If the OP is to be believed, his mother accepted a return fl;ight with an additional layover of about six hours. This was purely voluntary on her part, and is part of the price you pay for free tickets. If she later decided that she was unhappy, or her son decided it was going to be too stressful, then, in my opinion they should have paid the change fee and been done with it. Yes, it was nice of United to waive the fee, but they shouldn&#039;t have been put in the position of having to do so in the first place. The airlines&#039; rules are strange enough, but if they can be broken at the whim of one individual, then there is no hope for the rest of us. My bottom line here is the lady in question had no legitimate reason for asking for a waver and it should neither have been asked for nor given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say I tend to agree with Joe F. Having looked at United&#8217;s schedule of connecting flights from San Diego to Chicago, I found that they tend to be under five hours in total flying time, plus layovers of rarely more than an hour. If the OP is to be believed, his mother accepted a return fl;ight with an additional layover of about six hours. This was purely voluntary on her part, and is part of the price you pay for free tickets. If she later decided that she was unhappy, or her son decided it was going to be too stressful, then, in my opinion they should have paid the change fee and been done with it. Yes, it was nice of United to waive the fee, but they shouldn&#8217;t have been put in the position of having to do so in the first place. The airlines&#8217; rules are strange enough, but if they can be broken at the whim of one individual, then there is no hope for the rest of us. My bottom line here is the lady in question had no legitimate reason for asking for a waver and it should neither have been asked for nor given.</p>
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		<title>By: Shari</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/the-results-were-nothing-short-of-remarkable/comment-page-1/#comment-28854</link>
		<dc:creator>Shari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 07:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow, there are some seriously bitter and unhappy people on this board.  Do you treat everyone you deal with so nicely?  Perhaps glare at that old woman getting her senior-citizen&#039;s discount at the restaurant?  How about the military discount at the dry cleaners?

I can understand the argument that United didn&#039;t have to do what they did.  They didn&#039;t.  But there wasn&#039;t anything saying that the son couldn&#039;t try to help out his mother.  Good son, and you bash him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow, there are some seriously bitter and unhappy people on this board.  Do you treat everyone you deal with so nicely?  Perhaps glare at that old woman getting her senior-citizen&#8217;s discount at the restaurant?  How about the military discount at the dry cleaners?</p>
<p>I can understand the argument that United didn&#8217;t have to do what they did.  They didn&#8217;t.  But there wasn&#8217;t anything saying that the son couldn&#8217;t try to help out his mother.  Good son, and you bash him?</p>
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		<title>By: GEEKgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>GEEKgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! i like the idea of folks helping the Senior Citizens, 
i’m hoping there are more blogs, newsletters, ezines, websites, and 
reports out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! i like the idea of folks helping the Senior Citizens,<br />
i’m hoping there are more blogs, newsletters, ezines, websites, and<br />
reports out there.</p>
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		<title>By: EricR</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Joe Farrell - So you&#039;re just upset that some random person got a fee waived for no reason other than the stars aligned? Sheesh! I congratulate them for beating the screwed-up system! If other, more-deserving passengers didn&#039;t receive the same courtesy from the airlines, that&#039;s their own fault for (i) not asking or (ii) not being persistent. Or the stars just didn&#039;t align for them for whatever reason.

BTW, I&#039;m not sure why you assert that asking the Platinum Desk for an upgrade is never done &quot;since it never works&quot; - just last month I did this and was given one - over Thanksgiving, no less! I&#039;m only 40 and in good health, which should make it *more* difficult to achieve with your logic, but I had no problem.

Simplistically put, one just has to be willing to ask, and then ask nicely. Reading Dale Carnegie&#039;s &quot;How to Win Friends and Influence People&quot; will open up worlds of opportunities for anyone who has trouble doing this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Joe Farrell &#8211; So you&#8217;re just upset that some random person got a fee waived for no reason other than the stars aligned? Sheesh! I congratulate them for beating the screwed-up system! If other, more-deserving passengers didn&#8217;t receive the same courtesy from the airlines, that&#8217;s their own fault for (i) not asking or (ii) not being persistent. Or the stars just didn&#8217;t align for them for whatever reason.</p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;m not sure why you assert that asking the Platinum Desk for an upgrade is never done &#8220;since it never works&#8221; &#8211; just last month I did this and was given one &#8211; over Thanksgiving, no less! I&#8217;m only 40 and in good health, which should make it *more* difficult to achieve with your logic, but I had no problem.</p>
<p>Simplistically put, one just has to be willing to ask, and then ask nicely. Reading Dale Carnegie&#8217;s &#8220;How to Win Friends and Influence People&#8221; will open up worlds of opportunities for anyone who has trouble doing this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all seniors have special needs. Until my aunt was diagnosed with cancer, should could out pace me on ANY given day. My landlord is nearly 80 and goes non stop, where a much younger person would need and demand a break. And face it, unless you&#039;re independently wealthy, we&#039;re ALL on fixed incomes. Especially right now with so much of the population, myself included, barely surviving on unemployment. 

Now, they had all the right in the world to make a request, just as UA, had all the right in the world, to continue to deny them. But if they&#039;re going to make the exception to these people who booked knowing all the rules and regulations, then they need to be just as accomadating to the next person, disabled, healthy, young, or old, pink or purple. It would be only fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all seniors have special needs. Until my aunt was diagnosed with cancer, should could out pace me on ANY given day. My landlord is nearly 80 and goes non stop, where a much younger person would need and demand a break. And face it, unless you&#8217;re independently wealthy, we&#8217;re ALL on fixed incomes. Especially right now with so much of the population, myself included, barely surviving on unemployment. </p>
<p>Now, they had all the right in the world to make a request, just as UA, had all the right in the world, to continue to deny them. But if they&#8217;re going to make the exception to these people who booked knowing all the rules and regulations, then they need to be just as accomadating to the next person, disabled, healthy, young, or old, pink or purple. It would be only fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Farrell</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/the-results-were-nothing-short-of-remarkable/comment-page-1/#comment-28822</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Eric - I guess your opinion of me is fixed in stone - all I said is that there was ZERO reason for this particular passenger not to pay the change fee.

Nothing was different from when they booked; there was no acute illness, no one had died, they did not get stuck in traffic on the way to the airport, the aunt had not passed away in the meantime - the facts remain:
a) - the pax booked a ticket with a long layover
b)  - that pax had a chronic illness which was progressive;
c) - the pax knew at the time booking it would be a long day flying home
d)  - free ticket?  Yes &#039; here is the quote: &#039;This year she booked early [b]using miles [/b] but was only able to get a connecting flight back to Chicago, extending her travel time from 4 hours to almost 12= &#039;using miles&#039; strongly implies a FREE TICKET;
e) there was a change fee - clearly disclosed on EVERY single free ticket I have ever used and clearly disclosed here as well;
f) it is not relevant that &#039;it is insane to charge $150 for 90 seconds work on a computer&#039; because, thems the rules.  End of story;
g) the change was SOLELY for the comfort of the passenger.  Again, end of story, pay the fee. 

and you know what Eric, I rarely speak with anyone at AA - 95% of the upgrades and interactions are done automatically.  Calling the platinum desk to ask them to open up another seat simply is not done - since it never works.  Now, if I am booking F class revenue upgrade tickets to Hawaii - and they have 2 upgrade seats available, then I will call and ask if they will complementary upgrade me - and then use the 2 upgrade seats for my family -= thats about the only time I ever ask.  And usually is it granted - so I guess I am not that evil a person to deal with.  

I am sure when I am elderly I&#039;ll try to milk every situation I can, but its not really in my nature.  If you have a program, great, if not, or if it required groveling and begging and making an example of my saggy, elderly self, I&#039;d probably choose to pay the $150 .  . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Eric &#8211; I guess your opinion of me is fixed in stone &#8211; all I said is that there was ZERO reason for this particular passenger not to pay the change fee.</p>
<p>Nothing was different from when they booked; there was no acute illness, no one had died, they did not get stuck in traffic on the way to the airport, the aunt had not passed away in the meantime &#8211; the facts remain:<br />
a) &#8211; the pax booked a ticket with a long layover<br />
b)  &#8211; that pax had a chronic illness which was progressive;<br />
c) &#8211; the pax knew at the time booking it would be a long day flying home<br />
d)  &#8211; free ticket?  Yes &#8216; here is the quote: &#8216;This year she booked early [b]using miles [/b] but was only able to get a connecting flight back to Chicago, extending her travel time from 4 hours to almost 12= &#8216;using miles&#8217; strongly implies a FREE TICKET;<br />
e) there was a change fee &#8211; clearly disclosed on EVERY single free ticket I have ever used and clearly disclosed here as well;<br />
f) it is not relevant that &#8216;it is insane to charge $150 for 90 seconds work on a computer&#8217; because, thems the rules.  End of story;<br />
g) the change was SOLELY for the comfort of the passenger.  Again, end of story, pay the fee. </p>
<p>and you know what Eric, I rarely speak with anyone at AA &#8211; 95% of the upgrades and interactions are done automatically.  Calling the platinum desk to ask them to open up another seat simply is not done &#8211; since it never works.  Now, if I am booking F class revenue upgrade tickets to Hawaii &#8211; and they have 2 upgrade seats available, then I will call and ask if they will complementary upgrade me &#8211; and then use the 2 upgrade seats for my family -= thats about the only time I ever ask.  And usually is it granted &#8211; so I guess I am not that evil a person to deal with.  </p>
<p>I am sure when I am elderly I&#8217;ll try to milk every situation I can, but its not really in my nature.  If you have a program, great, if not, or if it required groveling and begging and making an example of my saggy, elderly self, I&#8217;d probably choose to pay the $150 .  . .</p>
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		<title>By: barbie45</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/the-results-were-nothing-short-of-remarkable/comment-page-1/#comment-28821</link>
		<dc:creator>barbie45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carver. As usual you always state your position very well. Well I agree with you one-  hundred percent. Perhaps after she read Chri&#039;s column she took the iniative and contacted United. Kudos to her. United received positive publicity for a cheap price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carver. As usual you always state your position very well. Well I agree with you one-  hundred percent. Perhaps after she read Chri&#8217;s column she took the iniative and contacted United. Kudos to her. United received positive publicity for a cheap price.</p>
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