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	<title>Comments on: Scam alert: don&#8217;t buy Southwest tickets on Craigslist</title>
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		<title>By: Chandler</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-2/#comment-35005</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work with a company where most of the business is done online. So I know the in and outs of the credit card system. 

While I sympathize with William Marleau, Southwest is not at fault here. People get scammed everyday and in this case, it was Mr. William&#039;s turn. Its cruel and sad but it is what it is. Southwest is a business and as a rule the customer needs to pay for the product. Lot of times on our site people would use the product and call the credit card company after 3 months and dispute the charge. We just eat up the loss and do not go through a collection agency after the user because 1) its too much hassle and 2) if word got out that we are using a collection agency to retrieve fees it would give us bad publicity. However, because our scale is lot smaller than Southwest and fraud rate is less, we can get away with this. 

I have also seen parents dispute charges when they couldn&#039;t recognize the fees which ever authorized by their sons or daughters (on an add-on card.). Its the most frustrating experience to deal with such parents. If you have an add-on card and you do not recognize a charge, shouldn&#039;t you at least call the card holder first? 

I completely understand Southwest&#039;s position and they are absolutely right in trying to get their money back. Lesson learned? Do not use craigslist and always use your own card to buy stuff. Are few dollars off really worth it ? Use Bing or Priceline or expedia or Kayak and you will get a good deal. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work with a company where most of the business is done online. So I know the in and outs of the credit card system. </p>
<p>While I sympathize with William Marleau, Southwest is not at fault here. People get scammed everyday and in this case, it was Mr. William&#8217;s turn. Its cruel and sad but it is what it is. Southwest is a business and as a rule the customer needs to pay for the product. Lot of times on our site people would use the product and call the credit card company after 3 months and dispute the charge. We just eat up the loss and do not go through a collection agency after the user because 1) its too much hassle and 2) if word got out that we are using a collection agency to retrieve fees it would give us bad publicity. However, because our scale is lot smaller than Southwest and fraud rate is less, we can get away with this. </p>
<p>I have also seen parents dispute charges when they couldn&#8217;t recognize the fees which ever authorized by their sons or daughters (on an add-on card.). Its the most frustrating experience to deal with such parents. If you have an add-on card and you do not recognize a charge, shouldn&#8217;t you at least call the card holder first? </p>
<p>I completely understand Southwest&#8217;s position and they are absolutely right in trying to get their money back. Lesson learned? Do not use craigslist and always use your own card to buy stuff. Are few dollars off really worth it ? Use Bing or Priceline or expedia or Kayak and you will get a good deal. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-2/#comment-29920</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hummm, people should know better than to get involved in shady online transactions with people they don&#039;t know.  What&#039;s to say they&#039;re not buying tickets purchased with stolen credit cards?  If people refused to buy shady online products, then these situations wouldn&#039;t happen.  You can&#039;t get something for nothing (or close to nothing); quit trying, and you won&#039;t get burned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hummm, people should know better than to get involved in shady online transactions with people they don&#8217;t know.  What&#8217;s to say they&#8217;re not buying tickets purchased with stolen credit cards?  If people refused to buy shady online products, then these situations wouldn&#8217;t happen.  You can&#8217;t get something for nothing (or close to nothing); quit trying, and you won&#8217;t get burned.</p>
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		<title>By: u</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-2/#comment-28264</link>
		<dc:creator>u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the blog...
I may become a victim of similar problem....
I got a email address from gumtree.co.uk for cheap ticket to australia...
and I though it would be great saving.. the price for the ticket was 500£ but market price was 1000£.
I have given my details (just name and passport number not bank details) to that email .. then guy booked a ticket for me... I dont know whose credit card he has used or what he did but he manage to book the ticket... and given me british airway booking reference number .... I called british airway ... the customer service says it is a genuine ticket... but then I this blog... I realise it my be I will be in big trouble... so I decided to not to pay this guy.. and I called british airway... five days before my travelling date... I ssaid to british airway I am not travelling and te cutomer service guy has excepted my situation and not down all the details... Let see what will happen.. 
Figures are crossed.. 
I hope I want get any trouble for this....
may be I will write again..after my holidays... what next happen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the blog&#8230;<br />
I may become a victim of similar problem&#8230;.<br />
I got a email address from gumtree.co.uk for cheap ticket to australia&#8230;<br />
and I though it would be great saving.. the price for the ticket was 500£ but market price was 1000£.<br />
I have given my details (just name and passport number not bank details) to that email .. then guy booked a ticket for me&#8230; I dont know whose credit card he has used or what he did but he manage to book the ticket&#8230; and given me british airway booking reference number &#8230;. I called british airway &#8230; the customer service says it is a genuine ticket&#8230; but then I this blog&#8230; I realise it my be I will be in big trouble&#8230; so I decided to not to pay this guy.. and I called british airway&#8230; five days before my travelling date&#8230; I ssaid to british airway I am not travelling and te cutomer service guy has excepted my situation and not down all the details&#8230; Let see what will happen..<br />
Figures are crossed..<br />
I hope I want get any trouble for this&#8230;.<br />
may be I will write again..after my holidays&#8230; what next happen</p>
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		<title>By: vri</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-2/#comment-21781</link>
		<dc:creator>vri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there seems to be a notion that if Mr. Marleau had purcahsed the ticket based on a Rapid Rewards voucher, he would have been OK.  But what is to keep the seller from canceling the ticket and reclaiming the award after he has pcoketed the money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there seems to be a notion that if Mr. Marleau had purcahsed the ticket based on a Rapid Rewards voucher, he would have been OK.  But what is to keep the seller from canceling the ticket and reclaiming the award after he has pcoketed the money?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-1/#comment-21293</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone mentioned buying from Ebay. I bought airline tickets from Ebay, and it turns out that they were fraudulent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone mentioned buying from Ebay. I bought airline tickets from Ebay, and it turns out that they were fraudulent.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-1/#comment-21132</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, the passenger definitely should be held responsible.  He used the services of the airline without paying them.  Period.

He paid someone, yes, but not the airline.

Imagine giving your next door neighbor money that you owe to the neighbor across the street.  You still owe the money to the neighbor across the street!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, the passenger definitely should be held responsible.  He used the services of the airline without paying them.  Period.</p>
<p>He paid someone, yes, but not the airline.</p>
<p>Imagine giving your next door neighbor money that you owe to the neighbor across the street.  You still owe the money to the neighbor across the street!</p>
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		<title>By: Arron</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-1/#comment-16177</link>
		<dc:creator>Arron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lissieo46@yahoo.com - it is a scam. The apartment is still available. As I said also in my ad, the apt. is located on 375 South End Avenue New York, NY 10280. 

Beware. Don&#039;t send money using western union or money gram.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:lissieo46@yahoo.com">lissieo46@yahoo.com</a> &#8211; it is a scam. The apartment is still available. As I said also in my ad, the apt. is located on 375 South End Avenue New York, NY 10280. </p>
<p>Beware. Don&#8217;t send money using western union or money gram.</p>
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		<title>By: johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-1/#comment-12642</link>
		<dc:creator>johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s always recommended to buy such items from reliable sources. A search for airline vouchers would yield established sites like http://www.ebay.com and http://www.vacanttravel.com. 

For me, I wouldn&#039;t dare to buy directly from strangers in craigslist. If buying discounted tickets gives you insomnia, I&#039;d suggest you that you might be better off buying normal tickets from airline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always recommended to buy such items from reliable sources. A search for airline vouchers would yield established sites like <a href="http://www.ebay.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com</a> and <a href="http://www.vacanttravel.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vacanttravel.com</a>. </p>
<p>For me, I wouldn&#8217;t dare to buy directly from strangers in craigslist. If buying discounted tickets gives you insomnia, I&#8217;d suggest you that you might be better off buying normal tickets from airline.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ferrell</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-1/#comment-12389</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ferrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can always verify the voucher prior to purchasing, if its in person.

Online, I&#039;d recommend that you use a reputable company like ebay.com where there are tons.

I look on http://www.travelbydeals.com/marketplace/ , vacanttravel.com, travel.ebay.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can always verify the voucher prior to purchasing, if its in person.</p>
<p>Online, I&#8217;d recommend that you use a reputable company like ebay.com where there are tons.</p>
<p>I look on <a href="http://www.travelbydeals.com/marketplace/" rel="nofollow">http://www.travelbydeals.com/marketplace/</a> , vacanttravel.com, travel.ebay.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/scam-alert-dont-buy-southwest-tickets-on-craigslist/comment-page-1/#comment-12004</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 15:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So my question is this.... did the purchaser not verify the authenticity of the purchased ticket with Southwest? With all the scams going around, one would reasonably expect to do a little legwork to insure against this. I feel for the guy but come on... Southwest has to do what what it can to avoid this. If they simply let this one go, everybody and their brother would be selling &quot;deeply discounted tickets&quot; on Craigslist and the carrier would go bankrupt. Considering the shape the airline industry is in currently, they certainly don&#039;t need the help of scammers to further assist them with bankruptcy! They&#039;re all doing failry well on their own!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So my question is this&#8230;. did the purchaser not verify the authenticity of the purchased ticket with Southwest? With all the scams going around, one would reasonably expect to do a little legwork to insure against this. I feel for the guy but come on&#8230; Southwest has to do what what it can to avoid this. If they simply let this one go, everybody and their brother would be selling &#8220;deeply discounted tickets&#8221; on Craigslist and the carrier would go bankrupt. Considering the shape the airline industry is in currently, they certainly don&#8217;t need the help of scammers to further assist them with bankruptcy! They&#8217;re all doing failry well on their own!</p>
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