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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/passports-who-needs-em-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-91125</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just revisiting old topics via keyword searches.

Just did the same for my kid.  I can&#039;t get off from work to do this on a weekday so weekends were the only option for me to go in person with my wife at a passport acceptance office.  I had several choices (mostly post offices) that can do this on a Saturday.  A lot of municipal offices that perform passport acceptance aren&#039;t open on Saturdays, and post offices are often panned for the way they treat people coming in for passports.  I found an unlikely place on the passport acceptance location list that was open on Saturday, close to home, and wasn&#039;t a post office.  I even read a few reviews about their passport service.  So if I could recommend a place, it&#039;s the UC Berkeley Recreational Sports Facility.  They will perform passport acceptance at their membership window.  I used to spend some time there as a student and went there for a few events.

http://calbears.berkeley.edu/insidepage.aspx?uid=6b303f6b-773d-46c7-bdba-732736f49785

There was one person ahead of us in line filling out a blank form.  We filled ours ahead of time using the State Dept&#039;s online entry system that also produces a machine readable matrix code.  They&#039;ll be able to look up the exact information in their databases via the code rather than rely on someone to read potentially messy handwriting.  It was a breeze since we came with everything ready, including his birth certificate, our parental photo IDs (and photocopies of the front and back in accordance with State Dept requirements), and the check made out to the Dept of State.

I&#039;m looking forward to my kid getting an official photo ID.  I&#039;m thinking most kids that age don&#039;t have their own IDs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just revisiting old topics via keyword searches.</p>
<p>Just did the same for my kid.  I can&#8217;t get off from work to do this on a weekday so weekends were the only option for me to go in person with my wife at a passport acceptance office.  I had several choices (mostly post offices) that can do this on a Saturday.  A lot of municipal offices that perform passport acceptance aren&#8217;t open on Saturdays, and post offices are often panned for the way they treat people coming in for passports.  I found an unlikely place on the passport acceptance location list that was open on Saturday, close to home, and wasn&#8217;t a post office.  I even read a few reviews about their passport service.  So if I could recommend a place, it&#8217;s the UC Berkeley Recreational Sports Facility.  They will perform passport acceptance at their membership window.  I used to spend some time there as a student and went there for a few events.</p>
<p><a href="http://calbears.berkeley.edu/insidepage.aspx?uid=6b303f6b-773d-46c7-bdba-732736f49785" rel="nofollow">http://calbears.berkeley.edu/insidepage.aspx?uid=6b303f6b-773d-46c7-bdba-732736f49785</a></p>
<p>There was one person ahead of us in line filling out a blank form.  We filled ours ahead of time using the State Dept&#8217;s online entry system that also produces a machine readable matrix code.  They&#8217;ll be able to look up the exact information in their databases via the code rather than rely on someone to read potentially messy handwriting.  It was a breeze since we came with everything ready, including his birth certificate, our parental photo IDs (and photocopies of the front and back in accordance with State Dept requirements), and the check made out to the Dept of State.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to my kid getting an official photo ID.  I&#8217;m thinking most kids that age don&#8217;t have their own IDs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathi e Coull</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/passports-who-needs-em-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-72380</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi e Coull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the first time in more than 30 years I do not have a current passport. It expired in May 2011. My husband says I&#039;ve taken to twitching and moaning in my sleep. Maybe I&#039;ll just renew it. FYI, I&#039;m not in Mexico anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the first time in more than 30 years I do not have a current passport. It expired in May 2011. My husband says I&#8217;ve taken to twitching and moaning in my sleep. Maybe I&#8217;ll just renew it. FYI, I&#8217;m not in Mexico anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/passports-who-needs-em-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-72379</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana, if you don&#039;t travel outside the USA then you cannot experience the other cultures of the world. It&#039;s as simple as that.  Whilst it&#039;s nice that you are multilingual and continually read world news, it&#039;s like truly knowing the theory behind flying a plane, but you have no pilots licence to take advantage of your skills/knowledge...  Or as most Americans call in sports, the &quot;armchair quarterback&quot; for NFL football.

I am American living overseas in Oceania. I got my replacement passport in 17 days only from the State Department. So the hassle is not too bad as you speak.  It&#039;s a form to fill out, a new photo, and some money for an item that&#039;s valid for 10 years.  

I think that most Americans spend too much money on crap to afford to take trips overseas.  Eg. why does a person need a big oversized SUV that gets 10 MPG?  

I work a full time job here as most Americans do in the USA.  I just minimise my costs, and plan to travel. Not everyone who travels on overseas flights is rich. In fact, most people like me scrounge around for airfare and accommodation deals...

May I suggest visiting Nepal for an amazing cultural experience?
cheers,
Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana, if you don&#8217;t travel outside the USA then you cannot experience the other cultures of the world. It&#8217;s as simple as that.  Whilst it&#8217;s nice that you are multilingual and continually read world news, it&#8217;s like truly knowing the theory behind flying a plane, but you have no pilots licence to take advantage of your skills/knowledge&#8230;  Or as most Americans call in sports, the &#8220;armchair quarterback&#8221; for NFL football.</p>
<p>I am American living overseas in Oceania. I got my replacement passport in 17 days only from the State Department. So the hassle is not too bad as you speak.  It&#8217;s a form to fill out, a new photo, and some money for an item that&#8217;s valid for 10 years.  </p>
<p>I think that most Americans spend too much money on crap to afford to take trips overseas.  Eg. why does a person need a big oversized SUV that gets 10 MPG?  </p>
<p>I work a full time job here as most Americans do in the USA.  I just minimise my costs, and plan to travel. Not everyone who travels on overseas flights is rich. In fact, most people like me scrounge around for airfare and accommodation deals&#8230;</p>
<p>May I suggest visiting Nepal for an amazing cultural experience?<br />
cheers,<br />
Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 20:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m one of the 3/4 of Americans who don&#039;t have a passport. I&#039;m fluent in four languages and keep up on current events worldwide, but I&#039;ve never been outside the US except for one short trip to Canada. I&#039;ve found the administrative hassle of getting a passport is just too much. As for kids under 18 though, I&#039;ve always resented the implication that kids not seeing the world is some kind of failing. World travel is a luxury. Not everyone can afford it. My family couldn&#039;t and we weren&#039;t even that poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m one of the 3/4 of Americans who don&#8217;t have a passport. I&#8217;m fluent in four languages and keep up on current events worldwide, but I&#8217;ve never been outside the US except for one short trip to Canada. I&#8217;ve found the administrative hassle of getting a passport is just too much. As for kids under 18 though, I&#8217;ve always resented the implication that kids not seeing the world is some kind of failing. World travel is a luxury. Not everyone can afford it. My family couldn&#8217;t and we weren&#8217;t even that poor.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 12:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the &quot;should you have one&quot; or the xenophobe or cost arguments have been thoroughly covered.

I will mention one perk of a passport or passport card is that my home address is NOT on a passport.  Thus, I can show it to whomever requires I present an ID and be more confident that no rogue airport personnel will burglarize my home later; a strategy that is much like using a business card or address on your luggage tag.  Rubberbanding the loose pages together generally keeps a nosy TSA document checker from thumbing through it because they are &quot;bored&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the &#8220;should you have one&#8221; or the xenophobe or cost arguments have been thoroughly covered.</p>
<p>I will mention one perk of a passport or passport card is that my home address is NOT on a passport.  Thus, I can show it to whomever requires I present an ID and be more confident that no rogue airport personnel will burglarize my home later; a strategy that is much like using a business card or address on your luggage tag.  Rubberbanding the loose pages together generally keeps a nosy TSA document checker from thumbing through it because they are &#8220;bored&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this post is so old that it&#039;s unlikely anyone will read this, but I feel compelled to respond to Phil Tarley&#039;s ignorant assertions about people who don&#039;t have passports.  As one of the 85% he accused of being illiterate, xenophobic, and opposed to science (none of which is an accurate characterization in my case), I neither have anything against foreign countries nor do I have a problem recognizing that other Americans have different priorities than I do and as such they&#039;ve obtained passports and traveled abroad.

I like to travel.  I do so as much as I can, which isn&#039;t all that much given money and vacation time constraints.  I&#039;ve never been outside the U.S. for a variety of reasons.  When I was growing up, my parents didn&#039;t have the money to take overseas vacations.  I chose not to study abroad in college partly for financial reasons.  And now, my vacation time is split between recurring trips to the same destinations (that I really enjoy and do not want to sacrifice) and exploring some of the hundreds of places in the U.S. that I&#039;ve never been to but want desperately to visit.  I haven&#039;t really had a burning desire to go overseas, and I don&#039;t consider it my civic duty to vacation somewhere that isn&#039;t on my high-priority list just to satisfy those who think I must be ignorant if I&#039;ve never been abroad.

When you consider that a large percentage of the American population cannot afford to take a real vacation *at all* (even to a destination within driving distance), it&#039;s even more insensitive to accuse those who don&#039;t hold passports of being jingoistic &quot;ugly Americans&quot; who sneer at foreign countries.

There&#039;s a heck of a lot to see right here in the U.S.  I&#039;m *not* saying that makes our country better than any other, but it does mean that I have a large number of trips that I&#039;d really love to take that don&#039;t involve leaving the country.  As such, I don&#039;t have a passport and don&#039;t intend to do much overseas travel (my wife and I do plan to visit Europe in 2013 thanks to a generous benefit my employer offers...she&#039;s more excited about it than I am, but I&#039;m sure it will be fun).

Unlike Phil, I don&#039;t consider my personal preferences to be better than the preferences of someone who feels differently about where they&#039;d like to travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this post is so old that it&#8217;s unlikely anyone will read this, but I feel compelled to respond to Phil Tarley&#8217;s ignorant assertions about people who don&#8217;t have passports.  As one of the 85% he accused of being illiterate, xenophobic, and opposed to science (none of which is an accurate characterization in my case), I neither have anything against foreign countries nor do I have a problem recognizing that other Americans have different priorities than I do and as such they&#8217;ve obtained passports and traveled abroad.</p>
<p>I like to travel.  I do so as much as I can, which isn&#8217;t all that much given money and vacation time constraints.  I&#8217;ve never been outside the U.S. for a variety of reasons.  When I was growing up, my parents didn&#8217;t have the money to take overseas vacations.  I chose not to study abroad in college partly for financial reasons.  And now, my vacation time is split between recurring trips to the same destinations (that I really enjoy and do not want to sacrifice) and exploring some of the hundreds of places in the U.S. that I&#8217;ve never been to but want desperately to visit.  I haven&#8217;t really had a burning desire to go overseas, and I don&#8217;t consider it my civic duty to vacation somewhere that isn&#8217;t on my high-priority list just to satisfy those who think I must be ignorant if I&#8217;ve never been abroad.</p>
<p>When you consider that a large percentage of the American population cannot afford to take a real vacation *at all* (even to a destination within driving distance), it&#8217;s even more insensitive to accuse those who don&#8217;t hold passports of being jingoistic &#8220;ugly Americans&#8221; who sneer at foreign countries.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a heck of a lot to see right here in the U.S.  I&#8217;m *not* saying that makes our country better than any other, but it does mean that I have a large number of trips that I&#8217;d really love to take that don&#8217;t involve leaving the country.  As such, I don&#8217;t have a passport and don&#8217;t intend to do much overseas travel (my wife and I do plan to visit Europe in 2013 thanks to a generous benefit my employer offers&#8230;she&#8217;s more excited about it than I am, but I&#8217;m sure it will be fun).</p>
<p>Unlike Phil, I don&#8217;t consider my personal preferences to be better than the preferences of someone who feels differently about where they&#8217;d like to travel.</p>
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		<title>By: James M</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/passports-who-needs-em-who-cares/comment-page-1/#comment-11866</link>
		<dc:creator>James M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to the comment that only 1 in 7 US children have passports, I would ask you to tell me how hard it is getting passports for children.  I have twin girls under age 2.  When I went to the City Hall in Boston to get birth certificates (why they wouldn&#039;t automatically send them is another story), I stopped by the passport window, figuring with the fresh certificates, less than a month old, my checkbook, photos and the rest of the day in front of me, I could take care of this problem for 5 years, and from then on, just play and pay renew-by-mail.  However, both parents have to be with the children, who must be present, to get passports issued, and, to be honest, all babies, including mine, look enough alike that I can&#039;t imagine a disinterested worker really being able to ferret out whatever they&#039;re trying to prevent.  I&#039;m impressed by the 1 in 7 parents being able to pull this together (parents of only children get fewer &quot;impress points,&quot; but still are impressive).

I moved to California with the kids and it was easier.  

You really don&#039;t want to be at the Post Office the day we come in to do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to the comment that only 1 in 7 US children have passports, I would ask you to tell me how hard it is getting passports for children.  I have twin girls under age 2.  When I went to the City Hall in Boston to get birth certificates (why they wouldn&#8217;t automatically send them is another story), I stopped by the passport window, figuring with the fresh certificates, less than a month old, my checkbook, photos and the rest of the day in front of me, I could take care of this problem for 5 years, and from then on, just play and pay renew-by-mail.  However, both parents have to be with the children, who must be present, to get passports issued, and, to be honest, all babies, including mine, look enough alike that I can&#8217;t imagine a disinterested worker really being able to ferret out whatever they&#8217;re trying to prevent.  I&#8217;m impressed by the 1 in 7 parents being able to pull this together (parents of only children get fewer &#8220;impress points,&#8221; but still are impressive).</p>
<p>I moved to California with the kids and it was easier.  </p>
<p>You really don&#8217;t want to be at the Post Office the day we come in to do this.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil  Tarley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil  Tarley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 17:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before the requirement came down for passports to go to the Carribean or  
Canada 85% of  Americans had no passports.  That means that Americans have not a clue about the world in which we live, except for what their politicians or dumbed-down newspapers tell them. Though we are a bilingual country, xenophobic  Anglo Americans refuse to speak Spanish, or learn any other languages. Why bother, they don&#039;t travel abroad, or leave their Anglo shopping malls and communities. (Outside of our biggest cities, we are a very segregated country.)   If you add to this equation, the very scary stat that more than 50% of our citizens do NOT believe in Evolution..You have a society that can&#039;t read, knows little about the world and is anti -science...Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before the requirement came down for passports to go to the Carribean or<br />
Canada 85% of  Americans had no passports.  That means that Americans have not a clue about the world in which we live, except for what their politicians or dumbed-down newspapers tell them. Though we are a bilingual country, xenophobic  Anglo Americans refuse to speak Spanish, or learn any other languages. Why bother, they don&#8217;t travel abroad, or leave their Anglo shopping malls and communities. (Outside of our biggest cities, we are a very segregated country.)   If you add to this equation, the very scary stat that more than 50% of our citizens do NOT believe in Evolution..You have a society that can&#8217;t read, knows little about the world and is anti -science&#8230;Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: cruisemates</title>
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		<dc:creator>cruisemates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Lisa said I can easily believe these statistics. Since many of my employees do not have passports, I have to plan our company “vacations” accordingly. Thus far we have been able to take annual cruises, but next year that will not be possible without passports, so we may have to come up with something new.&quot;

Actually, the passport requirements for people traveling by cruise ship to Canada, Mexico, Bermuda or most of the Caribbean will NOT be changing that drastically under the just finalized Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative. You can still get by with a state ID and a birth certificate. I am well aware of the misconception that passports will be needed for all border crossings soon, but it simply is not true in the case of sea travel.

A sneak preview of my WHTI article explaining it all is here: http://www.cruisemates.com/articles/feature/passport08.cfm

Actually, quite surprising, but the WHTI actually says: 

When traveling entirely within the Western Hemisphere on a cruise ship, and when the U.S. citizen boards the cruise ship at a port or place within the United States and returns on the return voyage of the same cruise ship to the same United States port or place from where he or she originally departed. That U.S. citizen may present a government-issued photo identification document in combination with either an original or a copy of his or her birth certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by the Department, or a Certificate of Naturalization issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services before entering the United States; if the U.S. citizen is under the age of 16, he or she may present either an original or a copy of his or her birth certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by the Department, or a Certificate of Naturalization issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services;

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/pdf/E8-6725.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lisa said I can easily believe these statistics. Since many of my employees do not have passports, I have to plan our company “vacations” accordingly. Thus far we have been able to take annual cruises, but next year that will not be possible without passports, so we may have to come up with something new.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, the passport requirements for people traveling by cruise ship to Canada, Mexico, Bermuda or most of the Caribbean will NOT be changing that drastically under the just finalized Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative. You can still get by with a state ID and a birth certificate. I am well aware of the misconception that passports will be needed for all border crossings soon, but it simply is not true in the case of sea travel.</p>
<p>A sneak preview of my WHTI article explaining it all is here: <a href="http://www.cruisemates.com/articles/feature/passport08.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.cruisemates.com/articles/feature/passport08.cfm</a></p>
<p>Actually, quite surprising, but the WHTI actually says: </p>
<p>When traveling entirely within the Western Hemisphere on a cruise ship, and when the U.S. citizen boards the cruise ship at a port or place within the United States and returns on the return voyage of the same cruise ship to the same United States port or place from where he or she originally departed. That U.S. citizen may present a government-issued photo identification document in combination with either an original or a copy of his or her birth certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by the Department, or a Certificate of Naturalization issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services before entering the United States; if the U.S. citizen is under the age of 16, he or she may present either an original or a copy of his or her birth certificate, a Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by the Department, or a Certificate of Naturalization issued by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services;</p>
<p><a href="http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/pdf/E8-6725.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2008/pdf/E8-6725.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Laurence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 16:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the $100 fee for a passport is a waste of money, what about the incredible soaring fees for visas?  The U.S. charges $130 for a foreign visitor to apply for a visa (no refunds if it&#039;s denied), even if you&#039;re &quot;visiting&quot; to change planes.  In response, other countries have jacked up their visa fees.  I went to China 2 years ago and the visa was $50.  Now, for U.S. passport holders only, it&#039;s $130.  Not everyone who travels is a wealthy jet-setter, and many tourists are budgeting each $10 meal, $2 subway ticket, and $40 hotel room.  $130 is a big price to pay for an ornate stamp in a passport.  And by the way, I don&#039;t feel the slightest bit more &quot;secure&quot; now that visas cost twice as much as they used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the $100 fee for a passport is a waste of money, what about the incredible soaring fees for visas?  The U.S. charges $130 for a foreign visitor to apply for a visa (no refunds if it&#8217;s denied), even if you&#8217;re &#8220;visiting&#8221; to change planes.  In response, other countries have jacked up their visa fees.  I went to China 2 years ago and the visa was $50.  Now, for U.S. passport holders only, it&#8217;s $130.  Not everyone who travels is a wealthy jet-setter, and many tourists are budgeting each $10 meal, $2 subway ticket, and $40 hotel room.  $130 is a big price to pay for an ornate stamp in a passport.  And by the way, I don&#8217;t feel the slightest bit more &#8220;secure&#8221; now that visas cost twice as much as they used to.</p>
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		<title>By: Mekhong Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mekhong Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live abroad, so of course I have to have my U.S. passport.

While the cost of a passport isn&#039;t all that bad considering that they&#039;re good for 10 years, for adults, I&#039;m not sure I buy that it actually costs the government anything near $100.

Though this piece focuses on passports, Americans need to know something about visas they get from other countries.  A tourist visa is *not* automatic entry into the issuing country -- it gives the traveler the right to show up at a port of entry, where ion officer will decide whether or not to all the person to formally enter the country.

Sometimes there&#039;s incorrect information.  For instance, a foreigner can come to Thailand for up to 30 days without a visa, though your passport is stamped both upon entry and exit.

However, some years ago I was returning from a visit to Texas, and I hadn&#039;t obtained a visa since I knew I could enter under the 30-day program.  At the airport in Los Angeles, the check-in cleark told me I couldn&#039;t board unless I had a visa for Thailand.  I showed him my passport, which had numerous instances of stamps showing I had entered and exited without a visa.  He called a supervisor over, who said the same thing.  He was puzzled by my passport, and looked up the information he said the airline had received from Thai immigration.  Then he invited me to scroll down the screen to see if I could find any mention of the 30-day program.  And there wasn&#039;t any.  But I got lucky.  He told me the cheapest onward fare, saying as far as he was concerned, I wouldn&#039;t be staying in Bangkok.  Of course, when I arrived, I was pstamped in, and returned my onward ticket to the airline&#039;s local office to get a refund.

Also, some countries require you to have a specified number of blank pages in your passport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live abroad, so of course I have to have my U.S. passport.</p>
<p>While the cost of a passport isn&#8217;t all that bad considering that they&#8217;re good for 10 years, for adults, I&#8217;m not sure I buy that it actually costs the government anything near $100.</p>
<p>Though this piece focuses on passports, Americans need to know something about visas they get from other countries.  A tourist visa is *not* automatic entry into the issuing country &#8212; it gives the traveler the right to show up at a port of entry, where ion officer will decide whether or not to all the person to formally enter the country.</p>
<p>Sometimes there&#8217;s incorrect information.  For instance, a foreigner can come to Thailand for up to 30 days without a visa, though your passport is stamped both upon entry and exit.</p>
<p>However, some years ago I was returning from a visit to Texas, and I hadn&#8217;t obtained a visa since I knew I could enter under the 30-day program.  At the airport in Los Angeles, the check-in cleark told me I couldn&#8217;t board unless I had a visa for Thailand.  I showed him my passport, which had numerous instances of stamps showing I had entered and exited without a visa.  He called a supervisor over, who said the same thing.  He was puzzled by my passport, and looked up the information he said the airline had received from Thai immigration.  Then he invited me to scroll down the screen to see if I could find any mention of the 30-day program.  And there wasn&#8217;t any.  But I got lucky.  He told me the cheapest onward fare, saying as far as he was concerned, I wouldn&#8217;t be staying in Bangkok.  Of course, when I arrived, I was pstamped in, and returned my onward ticket to the airline&#8217;s local office to get a refund.</p>
<p>Also, some countries require you to have a specified number of blank pages in your passport.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 19:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did some math off Lisa&#039;s comment: 

5 passport photos: $45.  
5 passports:       $500.
Total:             $545

I&#039;d like to know what type vacation a family of five can take for $545? 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some math off Lisa&#8217;s comment: </p>
<p>5 passport photos: $45.<br />
5 passports:       $500.<br />
Total:             $545</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know what type vacation a family of five can take for $545?</p>
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		<title>By: TomCayman</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomCayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 17:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run a resort in the Caribbean and am very involved in Caribbean tourism in general. The Caribbean is looking at a poor summer season, as that is prime family travel season.

For the more upscale Caribbean islands (such as Cayman), they didn&#039;t suffer much in the winter, as most of their adult travellers were passport holders.

However, now it comes to the summer and family travel season, a lot of those families have realised &quot;heck, now my kids need passports too&quot;, and by the time they worked it out the backlog at the passport offices had got so bad that they&#039;ll end up vacationing in the USA this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run a resort in the Caribbean and am very involved in Caribbean tourism in general. The Caribbean is looking at a poor summer season, as that is prime family travel season.</p>
<p>For the more upscale Caribbean islands (such as Cayman), they didn&#8217;t suffer much in the winter, as most of their adult travellers were passport holders.</p>
<p>However, now it comes to the summer and family travel season, a lot of those families have realised &#8220;heck, now my kids need passports too&#8221;, and by the time they worked it out the backlog at the passport offices had got so bad that they&#8217;ll end up vacationing in the USA this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 07:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S. Shopkow
It&#039;s not the US regulation that the postal worker was commenting on.  US re-entry only requires a passport for US citizens returning to the US. Many other countries have a requirement that US citizens entering their country must have a passport that is valid for at least 6 months past their intended stay.  It is more common that not, so the postal worker probably thought he was doing you a favor by letting you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S. Shopkow<br />
It&#8217;s not the US regulation that the postal worker was commenting on.  US re-entry only requires a passport for US citizens returning to the US. Many other countries have a requirement that US citizens entering their country must have a passport that is valid for at least 6 months past their intended stay.  It is more common that not, so the postal worker probably thought he was doing you a favor by letting you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 06:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html&lt;/a&gt;
Follow that link to read how to get a passport or renew one.  I just renewed mine and it did not cost an arm and a leg. Less than $100 and I can use it for 10 years.
A bargain, I&#039;d say.  
If you don&#039;t want to travel outside of US territories, then don&#039;t bother.  We prefer to keep our passports current, because we might win that big trip or a friend might and decide to take us with them.  We choose to travel and consider it a blessing to be able to see as much of the world as we can.  Thank you for the helpful column and newsletters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html" rel="nofollow">http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html</a><br />
Follow that link to read how to get a passport or renew one.  I just renewed mine and it did not cost an arm and a leg. Less than $100 and I can use it for 10 years.<br />
A bargain, I&#8217;d say.<br />
If you don&#8217;t want to travel outside of US territories, then don&#8217;t bother.  We prefer to keep our passports current, because we might win that big trip or a friend might and decide to take us with them.  We choose to travel and consider it a blessing to be able to see as much of the world as we can.  Thank you for the helpful column and newsletters.</p>
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