Comments on: New carry-on luggage limits and screening measures after Northwest Airlines terrorist incident

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By: Zo Herriges

Zo Herriges — Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:28:13 +0000

It still mystifies me that we will trade ANY of our liberty for security. Have we become such cowards in America? We get into cars by the millions everyday and, actuarily, risk our lives to a far greater degree in doing so than we ever could if we immediately went back to no airline security at all. From 1980 to 1995, more acts of terrorism took place than in any period before, or since. Yet I traveled the world as a single young woman, without incident during that entire period as did millions of others. I didn’t need security then, and I don’t need it now as one old enough to belong to AARP. We have always been targets. Only recently have we been convinced that we lack the courage to look the guys holding the weapons of fear in the eyes. I want us to straighten our spines and defend our liberty! Living in fear is like dying alone in the dark. Oh; and the next guy I see In front of me in the security line who quotes the founding fathers and then cowers before some rude TSA attendant instead of TELLING that attendant to treat him with some respect, is really getting a piece of my mind. ‘Nuff rant. Don’t just call your Reps. In Congress: Take a plane and go SEE them. It’s that important if you want your kids to understand anything about what the liberty to move one’s person unhindered really means in a lifetime.

By: Shruti Desai

Shruti Desai — Fri, 01 Jan 2010 14:47:19 +0000

Whew, I am glad I read a newspaper. Currently in India and would have had NO CLUE of the regulations until we got to the airport and found out we were hosed. What is awful about this is the last hour of an international flight (much less a 24-hour one) is a good time to have a wash, brush your teeth, use the restroom, etc. I also don’t understand how this changes anything, frankly, but I don’t think i am alone in this.

By: wendy pearson

wendy pearson — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 23:56:01 +0000

Traveling tomorrow from Canada to US via Seattle. Alaska Airlines has told us to prepare to have no carry-on whatsoever…we will have some grocery bags in hand to prevent us from carrying our wallets and book in our arms if THAT is allowed. perhaps we should just all go naked? Or maybe they should just start racial profiling. hmmm.

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:31:11 +0000

Coming home through Europe a couple years ago I noticed how much more lax their security was. Their was a novice traveller in front of me (or she appear so) and she tried to go through the metal detectors with her jacket on. So she took her jacket off, set it ON TOP of the metal detector, went through the metal detector and grabbed it off the top. The security person SAID NOTHING. This was an older woman so I said nothing but laughed at how much of a joke that screening was.

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Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:45:52 +0000

[...] terrorist bombing– new rules require heroic passengers to stay seated during last hour of flight Additional stupid, reactionary rules: Passengers will be allowed one carry-on item. (Didn’t they hear that Abdulmutallab’s [...]

By: rc

rc — Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:00:14 +0000

These new rules are assinine and should all be terminated. The in-flight rules are the most idiotic. The pat-down won’t work because now everybody knows and the physical searches of bags may work if it is done randomly but how long will it take before the public refuses to fly the unfriendly skies and the airports and airlines start losing money big time. The only winners in this are those that wish too bring harm to the U.S. Let me clarify my statement. Every time something happens we lose more of our civil rights and all the terrorists do is sit back and laugh at the U.S. while those of us who live in the U.S. are forced to endure excessive searches and questioning by the TSA goons. We as Americans have lost most of our civil rights to travel through airports and for those who think it is ok for the government to do this you are sadly mistaken. Once the government takes something from you or imposes a new rule it is very hard to repeal it although it can be done. I work for the government but not the TSA and some of the things they do just don’t make sense and would be great cannon fodder for the late night comedians.
My suggestion would be to have cameras at each gate area; have roaving behavioral analysis teams at all airports and K-9 teams at all airports. This is not intrusive and if there is a suspected problem the bahavioral analysis team and police can respond to the gate area to determine if the situation is harmless or needs further inverstigation.
Racial profiling does not work since some of the more recent terror attacks or attempts have been done by radicalized Americans or Europeans who are white.
I just read in a press release from a reporter who was returning from Cancun to the U.S. that a baby was actually frisked and screamed in anger at being manhandled by private security at Cancun airport. A baby. I feel sorry for the parent or parents who had to see their baby being abused. WTF. I have a four month baby boy and I will drive before I put my son through that type of treatment.
If the TSA would spend less time looking for toothpaste, shaving cream and cologne they might actually be able to do their job and not make everybody suffer.

By: Cino

Cino — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 21:15:28 +0000

The USA gov. and Flying public expects and DEMANDS that underpaid, corporately brutalized (with the US gov. blessing) US airline crews throw themselves between terrorists and their passengers. All this while forcing them to deal with a 40% pay reduction.

The American public has no one to thank except US airline corporate gansters and the Gov. that entitles them to place the American flying public in danger.

This is absurd…airline crews deal with as much danger and stress as ANY Fireman or police. Today, in 2009, every time they go to work they are faced with the possibility of being killed while on duty. Their job is to rescue passengers in the event of a crash. How fast the flying public forgets, until it’s needed.

By: Shirley Schultz

Shirley Schultz — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:48:19 +0000

So all a terrorist has to do is yell “Boo” and we all lose more rights. And particularly a terrorist that has been reported by HIS FATHER no less. Credit card issuers and NTSB; two of a kind. We’re being made miserable for our own good.

By: CWE

CWE — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:24:14 +0000

I hope that everyone who is taking the time to post indignantly here is taking a few more minutes to contact their Congressional Representatives, Senators, and the White House. All provide convenient interfaces to send messages about this.

By: traveller

traveller — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:11:53 +0000

Here we go again… Why is it the strength of our security measures consist of reacting to incidents that have happened rather than being proactive in trying to prevent any incidents from happening? We are considered a strong and powerful nation but when it comes to out thinking terrorists, we lag far behind. When we employ people who think outside the box enough to begin thinking creatively and like the terrorists we will be able to be proactive instead of reactive. Who is it that thinks only the last hour of the flight poses a threat? What about on take off or sitting on the tarmac waiting to depart? Come on America get off the old school way of thinking and be proactive. Taking measures to defend something they already did is not going to work. 911 already proved that.

By: Mary H

Mary H — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:22:19 +0000

Coming home to US through Spanish and UK airports this autumn, I was surprised a the apparent lack of attention to detail in procedures. When the airports have whole aircraft devoted to moving holiday travelers to one destination or are shuttling thousands through the system so the airports don’t get clogged, I guess it’s easy to let security matters slide. Especially when the US is in an unpopular war……
I’m praying I don’t have to fly again….pigs will be flying in first class before we get a decent 21st century railway system in this country. We are now all about mind-numbing fear instead of moving into the future…..

By: Kathy

Kathy — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 00:09:56 +0000

@Marlene Simmons “We’re supposed to fly 11.5 hrs … and not have in-flight entertainment and not read something during the last 60 minutes of the flight?”

Start the singalong:
99 bottles of beer on the wall…99 bottles of beer… you take one down, pass it around….

After a few rounds of that, books and magazines will be magically restored.

By: Don Shay

Don Shay — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 23:44:27 +0000

TV news just stated the guy WAS ON A TERRORIST WATCHLIST !
So existing policies not working, let’s just add more restrictions.

By: Ken

Ken — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:45:05 +0000

Yet, not all the stuff in the underbelly of the plane is searched half as much as the passengers….go figure….