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	<title>Comments on: In a listless economy, look out for hidden resort fees</title>
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		<title>By: Ronda</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/in-a-listless-economy-look-out-for-hidden-resort-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-27985</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would honestly feel better about paying a higher nightly rate for a room at a hotel if it meant that the hotel wasnt charging stupid fees. When I see a room that says 100 doller a night I want to pay 100 dollers a night (plus government tax) instead of a room that says 100 doller s anight and after fees turns out to be like 130 doller a night...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would honestly feel better about paying a higher nightly rate for a room at a hotel if it meant that the hotel wasnt charging stupid fees. When I see a room that says 100 doller a night I want to pay 100 dollers a night (plus government tax) instead of a room that says 100 doller s anight and after fees turns out to be like 130 doller a night&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peg</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/in-a-listless-economy-look-out-for-hidden-resort-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-18562</link>
		<dc:creator>Peg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I spoke to a reservation agent at the Beau Rivage in Biloxi MS and asked about the $5.35 resort fee she stated that &quot;all resorts are charging it.&quot;  
&quot;Then why not increase the price of the room?&quot;
&quot;Because not everyone has to pay it,&quot; she said.
&quot;Oh, who doesn&#039;t pay?&quot;
&quot;People who get complimentary rooms.&quot;
Well, DUH!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I spoke to a reservation agent at the Beau Rivage in Biloxi MS and asked about the $5.35 resort fee she stated that &#8220;all resorts are charging it.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Then why not increase the price of the room?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Because not everyone has to pay it,&#8221; she said.<br />
&#8220;Oh, who doesn&#8217;t pay?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;People who get complimentary rooms.&#8221;<br />
Well, DUH!!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Farrell</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/in-a-listless-economy-look-out-for-hidden-resort-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-18560</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got hit with a resort fee at the quality inn and suites in Kissimmee near Orlando.  We made a reservation on Expedia.  I printed out the res via pdf and saved it my desk top.  The &#039;resort fee&#039; was in fact disguised as a &#039;in room safe insurance fee&#039; of $2.50 a day.  It was not disclosed on the confirmation - but - after I complained it now miraculously appears on the confirmation pages!  

When I checked in I was asked to sign a form - I actually took 30 seconds to read the form which had the standard &#039;you break it you bought it&#039; language and, the disclosure of the fee.  I told them that I refused to sign the form unless the fee was deleted.   They simply took the form back unsigned.  End of problem.

I go to check out and the fee is there.  I object.  The person states that everyone pays it - I point out that I never agreed to pay it.  she harrumpfs and goes and gets the form - its not signed.  She gets confused.  I ask to speak to the onduty manager - the front desk manager saunters over.   I say no - the manager please.  &quot;Manager not available.&quot;  

&quot;Ok, are you aware you are selling insurance without a license, which is a felony in Florida?&quot; 

&quot;What?&quot;  Dumb look from the front desk manager.

&quot;Well, Sandeep Anoosh, you are going to be named on the complaint to the Florida department of insurance for illegally selling insurance.  Do you want to remove the insurance fee?&quot;

&quot;I&#039;ll take it off.&quot;

I pressed it and asked for the insurance policy.  &quot;There is no insurance policy.&quot;  &quot;Well, then, Mr. Anoosh, what are you selling then?  Are there limits or conditions to coverage - or is anything we put in there covered?&quot;   

&quot;I have no idea Mr. Farrell, [and here is the key words he used] IT IS JUST A FEE!&quot;

After I returned home I did file a complaint with the Florida department of consumer affairs - and they ARE investigating it after I spoke with an investigator and referred them to the hotel website which now clearly state you have to pay for &quot;in room safe insurance.&quot;  His remark was - they can&#039;t sell insurance - or what something thinks is insurance.  We&#039;ll see what they call it next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got hit with a resort fee at the quality inn and suites in Kissimmee near Orlando.  We made a reservation on Expedia.  I printed out the res via pdf and saved it my desk top.  The &#8216;resort fee&#8217; was in fact disguised as a &#8216;in room safe insurance fee&#8217; of $2.50 a day.  It was not disclosed on the confirmation &#8211; but &#8211; after I complained it now miraculously appears on the confirmation pages!  </p>
<p>When I checked in I was asked to sign a form &#8211; I actually took 30 seconds to read the form which had the standard &#8216;you break it you bought it&#8217; language and, the disclosure of the fee.  I told them that I refused to sign the form unless the fee was deleted.   They simply took the form back unsigned.  End of problem.</p>
<p>I go to check out and the fee is there.  I object.  The person states that everyone pays it &#8211; I point out that I never agreed to pay it.  she harrumpfs and goes and gets the form &#8211; its not signed.  She gets confused.  I ask to speak to the onduty manager &#8211; the front desk manager saunters over.   I say no &#8211; the manager please.  &#8220;Manager not available.&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;Ok, are you aware you are selling insurance without a license, which is a felony in Florida?&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;What?&#8221;  Dumb look from the front desk manager.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, Sandeep Anoosh, you are going to be named on the complaint to the Florida department of insurance for illegally selling insurance.  Do you want to remove the insurance fee?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll take it off.&#8221;</p>
<p>I pressed it and asked for the insurance policy.  &#8220;There is no insurance policy.&#8221;  &#8220;Well, then, Mr. Anoosh, what are you selling then?  Are there limits or conditions to coverage &#8211; or is anything we put in there covered?&#8221;   </p>
<p>&#8220;I have no idea Mr. Farrell, [and here is the key words he used] IT IS JUST A FEE!&#8221;</p>
<p>After I returned home I did file a complaint with the Florida department of consumer affairs &#8211; and they ARE investigating it after I spoke with an investigator and referred them to the hotel website which now clearly state you have to pay for &#8220;in room safe insurance.&#8221;  His remark was &#8211; they can&#8217;t sell insurance &#8211; or what something thinks is insurance.  We&#8217;ll see what they call it next.</p>
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		<title>By: Bela Fleck</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/in-a-listless-economy-look-out-for-hidden-resort-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-18527</link>
		<dc:creator>Bela Fleck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but in the retail and hospitality business, transparency is the last thing they want.  The less you know, the better off they think they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but in the retail and hospitality business, transparency is the last thing they want.  The less you know, the better off they think they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Skip</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/in-a-listless-economy-look-out-for-hidden-resort-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-18523</link>
		<dc:creator>Skip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 19:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If resort fees are not disclosed in the contract, then I am not obligated to pay them.  It&#039;s really that simple.

Next time a hotel pulls this crap, do just like the Penners did.  Refuse to pay.  If the clerk balks, ask to speak to the manager.  If the manager &quot;isn&#039;t available&quot;, then inform the clerk that after your credit card company removes the charge, you will write a letter outlining exactly what has happened, including names, dates, times, etc., and send it to the county&#039;s District Attorney and copy it to the hotel&#039;s consumer affairs office at the corporate headquarters, the state&#039;s Attorney General and the Federal Trade Commission, and maybe the state&#039;s US Attorney&#039;s office as well, explaining exactly what is going on.  That ought to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If resort fees are not disclosed in the contract, then I am not obligated to pay them.  It&#8217;s really that simple.</p>
<p>Next time a hotel pulls this crap, do just like the Penners did.  Refuse to pay.  If the clerk balks, ask to speak to the manager.  If the manager &#8220;isn&#8217;t available&#8221;, then inform the clerk that after your credit card company removes the charge, you will write a letter outlining exactly what has happened, including names, dates, times, etc., and send it to the county&#8217;s District Attorney and copy it to the hotel&#8217;s consumer affairs office at the corporate headquarters, the state&#8217;s Attorney General and the Federal Trade Commission, and maybe the state&#8217;s US Attorney&#8217;s office as well, explaining exactly what is going on.  That ought to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessie Voigts</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/in-a-listless-economy-look-out-for-hidden-resort-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-18514</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessie Voigts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>resort fees are just asinine - they&#039;ve got you trapped because you&#039;re already there. transparency is a huge goal for ethical transactions - we should all work toward that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>resort fees are just asinine &#8211; they&#8217;ve got you trapped because you&#8217;re already there. transparency is a huge goal for ethical transactions &#8211; we should all work toward that!</p>
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		<title>By: Carver</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/in-a-listless-economy-look-out-for-hidden-resort-fees/comment-page-1/#comment-18512</link>
		<dc:creator>Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Resort fees are evil.  They cannot be justified under any economic or business principle and as such represent pure extortion.

Resort fees are doubly evil because usually

1.   You don&#039;t get any loyalty points for them
2.   You still pay them when redeeming award nights
3.    They&#039;re often excluded from packages and specials

Wholly unethical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resort fees are evil.  They cannot be justified under any economic or business principle and as such represent pure extortion.</p>
<p>Resort fees are doubly evil because usually</p>
<p>1.   You don&#8217;t get any loyalty points for them<br />
2.   You still pay them when redeeming award nights<br />
3.    They&#8217;re often excluded from packages and specials</p>
<p>Wholly unethical!</p>
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