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	<title>Comments on: Here&#8217;s the video that got grandma detained on JetBlue flight</title>
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		<title>By: Major Variola (ret)</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/heres-the-video-that-got-grandmother-detained-on-jetblue-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-29682</link>
		<dc:creator>Major Variola (ret)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Classic &quot;Streisand effect&quot;... now everyone will know how crappy
Jet Blue manages their cabins, *because* of their effort
to hide it.  That kid &amp; mother should be banned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Classic &#8220;Streisand effect&#8221;&#8230; now everyone will know how crappy<br />
Jet Blue manages their cabins, *because* of their effort<br />
to hide it.  That kid &amp; mother should be banned.</p>
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		<title>By: CONCERNED</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/heres-the-video-that-got-grandmother-detained-on-jetblue-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-28505</link>
		<dc:creator>CONCERNED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 15:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope my comments that are &quot;awaiting moderation&quot; isn&#039;t because I don&#039;t buy grandma&#039;s story and that I disagree with others who don&#039;t respect other peoples privacy in uncomfortable in-flight situations where one doesn&#039;t have control of who is sitting next to you (and evidently people who are filming you in uncomfortable situations).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope my comments that are &#8220;awaiting moderation&#8221; isn&#8217;t because I don&#8217;t buy grandma&#8217;s story and that I disagree with others who don&#8217;t respect other peoples privacy in uncomfortable in-flight situations where one doesn&#8217;t have control of who is sitting next to you (and evidently people who are filming you in uncomfortable situations).</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/heres-the-video-that-got-grandmother-detained-on-jetblue-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-28502</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.P.S.:  Jetblue is good to get rid of trouble makers like&quot;grandma&quot;; moreover, since it is against the flight rules and laws to film in-flight, they have the right to request deleting the film since it was not authorized in the first place!  Did grandma also film some one vomiting from air sickness?  How about some one having a heart attack or snoring?  Come on  &amp; get real!  Grandma needs a good book to read and to be taught courtesy for others.  Perhaps gramdma could become part of the &quot;Paparazzi&quot; that stock famous people and get paid for her indiscretions (I would be ASHAMED to be her grand child).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.P.S.:  Jetblue is good to get rid of trouble makers like&#8221;grandma&#8221;; moreover, since it is against the flight rules and laws to film in-flight, they have the right to request deleting the film since it was not authorized in the first place!  Did grandma also film some one vomiting from air sickness?  How about some one having a heart attack or snoring?  Come on  &amp; get real!  Grandma needs a good book to read and to be taught courtesy for others.  Perhaps gramdma could become part of the &#8220;Paparazzi&#8221; that stock famous people and get paid for her indiscretions (I would be ASHAMED to be her grand child).</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/heres-the-video-that-got-grandmother-detained-on-jetblue-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-28500</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I hope said individuals sue &quot;busy body&quot; and &quot;medler grandma&quot; and/or Jetblue does too (no rhyme intended).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I hope said individuals sue &#8220;busy body&#8221; and &#8220;medler grandma&#8221; and/or Jetblue does too (no rhyme intended).</p>
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		<title>By: concerned</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/heres-the-video-that-got-grandmother-detained-on-jetblue-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-28499</link>
		<dc:creator>concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe that any one should video tape other individuals in flight...don&#039;t they have a life and any consideration about privacy of others and courtesy in-flight.  Everyone in-flight is forced to be in other people&#039;s space for the duration of the trip and altercations happen... certainly no one wishes to be filmed during an uncomfortable situation.  Who would even wish to do that?  It&#039;s voyurism &amp; a &quot;busy body&quot; getting into other people&#039;s lives.  Who would even video tape a boring in flight trip....haven&#039;t they ever flown before and don&#039;t they respect others privacy????????????????????  Go figure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe that any one should video tape other individuals in flight&#8230;don&#8217;t they have a life and any consideration about privacy of others and courtesy in-flight.  Everyone in-flight is forced to be in other people&#8217;s space for the duration of the trip and altercations happen&#8230; certainly no one wishes to be filmed during an uncomfortable situation.  Who would even wish to do that?  It&#8217;s voyurism &amp; a &#8220;busy body&#8221; getting into other people&#8217;s lives.  Who would even video tape a boring in flight trip&#8230;.haven&#8217;t they ever flown before and don&#8217;t they respect others privacy????????????????????  Go figure!</p>
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		<title>By: Travel-Writers-Exchange.com</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/heres-the-video-that-got-grandmother-detained-on-jetblue-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-27732</link>
		<dc:creator>Travel-Writers-Exchange.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my!  This is what happens when people are stressed out, annoyed, aggravated, etc...Traveling with children can be precarious, especially if they&#039;re scared or crabby.  Perhaps going Greyhound or taking train is a better alternative; at least you&#039;re on the ground versus being 10,000 or more feet in the air!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my!  This is what happens when people are stressed out, annoyed, aggravated, etc&#8230;Traveling with children can be precarious, especially if they&#8217;re scared or crabby.  Perhaps going Greyhound or taking train is a better alternative; at least you&#8217;re on the ground versus being 10,000 or more feet in the air!</p>
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		<title>By: Duke Nukem</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/heres-the-video-that-got-grandmother-detained-on-jetblue-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-25812</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke Nukem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any updates on this case? I really hope grandma sued JetBlue&#039;s a$$!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any updates on this case? I really hope grandma sued JetBlue&#8217;s a$$!</p>
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		<title>By: Ronda</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/heres-the-video-that-got-grandmother-detained-on-jetblue-flight/comment-page-1/#comment-23752</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, just wow. this leaves me pretty much speachless.. 

well, i think that the airline in question are just trying to find something to nitpick about. what mrs.Parver chooses to videotape is her own right. its not like she was trying to put anyone in danger... and unless the flight attendant in question was allergic to video camera&#039;s she/he has no right to stop anyone.

now as for what was on the video itself, i can understand why the airline doesnt want it posted anywhere. as anyone can clearly see the flight was high stress, low civility and VERY low coping skills on part of the male, female, and attendent involved.  i mean an attendant yelling EXCUSE ME can hardly be called attempting to keep the peace. 

now as a parent. its very disappointing to see that the mother involved clearly said the words, i dont even want to control him. any half decent mother knows that if you want to defuse a tantrum, defuse it early. ESPECIALLY in a cramped area with many poeple. its not right for the child to be put into this mess becuase at the age of 7 or so(idle speculation) they easily melt down in new surroundings. the male involved should&#039;ve been a bit more patient, the parent should&#039;ve exerted proper control over her offspring, nad the flight attendant shouldnt&#039; have just stood there and said excuse me, the flight attendant should&#039;ve tried to move either the man, or the parent/child, or a good dose of motrin (which i have never tried, as my child loves planes and is too interested in looking otu the window to pull a tantrum) but i hear it is the medication of angels for rowdy children on long flights. 
 
I hope that Mrs. Parver&#039;s problems with this particular airline are over as she was guilty of nothing more then being bored on a plane with 2 grown adults and 1 child were having temper tantrums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, just wow. this leaves me pretty much speachless.. </p>
<p>well, i think that the airline in question are just trying to find something to nitpick about. what mrs.Parver chooses to videotape is her own right. its not like she was trying to put anyone in danger&#8230; and unless the flight attendant in question was allergic to video camera&#8217;s she/he has no right to stop anyone.</p>
<p>now as for what was on the video itself, i can understand why the airline doesnt want it posted anywhere. as anyone can clearly see the flight was high stress, low civility and VERY low coping skills on part of the male, female, and attendent involved.  i mean an attendant yelling EXCUSE ME can hardly be called attempting to keep the peace. </p>
<p>now as a parent. its very disappointing to see that the mother involved clearly said the words, i dont even want to control him. any half decent mother knows that if you want to defuse a tantrum, defuse it early. ESPECIALLY in a cramped area with many poeple. its not right for the child to be put into this mess becuase at the age of 7 or so(idle speculation) they easily melt down in new surroundings. the male involved should&#8217;ve been a bit more patient, the parent should&#8217;ve exerted proper control over her offspring, nad the flight attendant shouldnt&#8217; have just stood there and said excuse me, the flight attendant should&#8217;ve tried to move either the man, or the parent/child, or a good dose of motrin (which i have never tried, as my child loves planes and is too interested in looking otu the window to pull a tantrum) but i hear it is the medication of angels for rowdy children on long flights. </p>
<p>I hope that Mrs. Parver&#8217;s problems with this particular airline are over as she was guilty of nothing more then being bored on a plane with 2 grown adults and 1 child were having temper tantrums.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we have to have everything on tape or film or video? It&#039;s not enough to just live? And be?  F Light attendants have hard enough jobs without their every move being documented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we have to have everything on tape or film or video? It&#8217;s not enough to just live? And be?  F Light attendants have hard enough jobs without their every move being documented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it is important, in the case of a flight like Judy&#039;s, to write the airline telling how happy one is about the Flight Attendant taking care of the situation, just in case the &quot;bad parent&quot; writes in.

Since this thing came out, I&#039;ve had several flights and have reaffirmed my opinion that it is just about always the fault of the parent, whether it is for their deeds that day, or from their general parenting over the past months and years.

Regrettably, I&#039;ve even seen &quot;bad parent syndrome&quot; done by family and friends.  It is so predictable.  Kid wants something.  Parent says no. Kid makes a fuss.  Parent relents so kid won&#039;t make a fuss.  Is it really that hard?
When you make a decision to say no, stick by it.  No matter how much the kid makes a fuss.   And get into this habit long before you even think of taking that kid on a plane.

Any parent who is continually out stubborned by a 3 year old is doomed to failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it is important, in the case of a flight like Judy&#8217;s, to write the airline telling how happy one is about the Flight Attendant taking care of the situation, just in case the &#8220;bad parent&#8221; writes in.</p>
<p>Since this thing came out, I&#8217;ve had several flights and have reaffirmed my opinion that it is just about always the fault of the parent, whether it is for their deeds that day, or from their general parenting over the past months and years.</p>
<p>Regrettably, I&#8217;ve even seen &#8220;bad parent syndrome&#8221; done by family and friends.  It is so predictable.  Kid wants something.  Parent says no. Kid makes a fuss.  Parent relents so kid won&#8217;t make a fuss.  Is it really that hard?<br />
When you make a decision to say no, stick by it.  No matter how much the kid makes a fuss.   And get into this habit long before you even think of taking that kid on a plane.</p>
<p>Any parent who is continually out stubborned by a 3 year old is doomed to failure.</p>
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