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Help! Southwest Airlines stranded my puppy in Little Rock

December 3, 2009

puppyIt was just a matter of time before Southwest Airlines, which started accepting pets as passengers earlier this year, got into a dog-fight with a customer. Actually, this one’s more of a cat fight.

Jonathan Camp’s rescue puppy, Gatsby, had to be left in Little Rock, Ark., after airline employees decided he was too big to fly. Southwest’s policies are clearly spelled out on its Web site, but there is always room for interpretation — and it appears Camp and Southwest didn’t see the policies in the same way.

Camp asked me to intervene after Gatsby was stranded.


Here are excerpts of his appeal:

We need your help! Southwest Airlines made us leave our sweet 15-pound rescue puppy in Little Rock, after they let us fly there. We met all the specifications to get the dog on board, and the main reason he did not get on the plane was because Southwest Airlines hired employees who are supposed to be in charge of checking the dogs, but hate dogs/are deathly afraid of them, and do not know how to follow their own rules.

And now our puppy is in Little Rock, he already has separation anxiety, he had vet appointments today in San Diego, and all because of petty, cruel employees. Also, Southwest does not seem to care enough to respond quickly to the situation, because we are just two nobodies as far as they are concerned, and think it is OK to let our family puppy be away from his loving owners.

OK, let me stop the tape right there. Separation anxiety? I don’t know. Then again, I’m not a dog person, so maybe they do get separation anxiety after being away from their owners for a few hours. But on with the story …

We had sedated Gatsby but Beren, my fiancee, had him in her arms as we waited to check our bags and to purchase the pet boarding pass that we had already reserved. The Southwest lady finished with the passenger ahead of us in line, and so we walked up to her.

She all of a sudden noticed Gatsby in Beren’s arms and freaked out. Freaked out bad, because apparently she was afraid of all dogs, even cute 15 pound puppies that are asleep. She told Beren to put him in the dog crate immediately, and she said that he had to be in his crate at all times, which we know is not entirely true, because you have to take him out to go through security, and the policy said that he only has to be in his crate once you go through security, so she was misinformed.

She calls out her supervisor because she is so freaked that she saw a dog, even though it is part of her job, and so he comes out suspicious and slightly hostile. He then says that the
dog is too big and that he is not getting on the flight. We flew with Gatsby to Little Rock from San Diego and have before, he is under 25 pounds, and meets all their policies regarding dogs, and they let us bring him here.

Beren told him that Gatsby is 15 pounds and not too big. Then the supervisor said that the crate was too small for Gatsby. We put Gatsby in the crate to show that he was erroneous. Then the supervisor said that the dog needs to stand up in the crate.

Southwest policy says the dog must be able to move around comfortably and be able to stand up in the crate (there was a boarding pass on the pet carrier from the San Diego airport showing the dog and the carrier passed inspection there and had flown on Southwest just a week earlier). We have the photos to prove that Gatsby can stand up in the crate and move around, but the man just was not in a good mood and was rude and just kept saying no and no and no, because Beren was crying and telling him that this is ridiculous, the dog had flown several times in that crate, he can stand up, he just wasn’t at that split second because he was sedated to ensure that he was quiet in the plane for the other passengers.

The man tells Beren she needs to calm down and that there is no way that the dog is getting on the flight (which was only half full, and we had reservations for Gatsby, and we had met all their requirements because we had traveled a few times with him). Beren goes outside and calls her stepmother Ashley who dropped us off, and Ashley returns and attempts to talk to them.

Alright, you get the idea. The police are called to the scene. Eventually, the great Gatsby goes home with Ashley the stepmom, but Beren and her fiancee are furious at the airline and are threatening to sue.

I contacted the airline on the family’s behalf. Here’s its response to Camp:

Our policy, as stated on our website, says that Southwest Airlines accepts small domestic cats and dogs, which must be carried in an appropriate carrier. Furthermore, the cat or dog must be completely inside the pet carrier and be able to stand up and move around with ease.

According to our Little Rock Employees, the dog that was with you when you checked in could not stand up, turn around, or fit comfortably in the carrier. For that reason, they could not allow him to travel.

I can understand how frustrating that situation must have been for you – you’re at the airport, you’re ready to travel, and suddenly, your plans are interrupted. So, I can understand why your fiancées temper may have flared, causing the Little Rock Airport police to arrive on the scene.

That said, our Employees have an obligation to ensure that all pets and Customers that travel onboard Southwest Airlines can travel safely and comfortably. The fact that Gatsby did not meet our policy requiring pets to fit comfortably in their carriers is the reason that he was denied boarding.

My research also suggests that you had trouble traveling with Gatsby back in September when he was just 14 weeks old, at which time, he was denied boarding after several Customers complained about the noise and our Flight Crew discovered that he was not secured in his carrier, as is required at all times. Nevertheless, our records indicate that our Customer Relations Departments provided you with a $75 gift certificate as a gesture of goodwill and apology for your inconvenience.

Mr. Camp, we added our P.A.W.S program earlier this year as an added convenience for our Customers, and I am truly sorry that this service has been anything less than convenient for you, your fiancée, or your dog, Gatsby. As Gatsby continues to grow and mature, please keep in mind that, having already outgrown the terms of our P.A.W.S. policies, it is unlikely that he will qualify to travel with us moving forward.

Of course, I understand that there is still the lingering issue that Gatsby remains in Little Rock. Please contact me offline so that we can discuss options for getting him home to San Diego.

I think that was an appropriate response from Southwest. And the part about discussing options for getting Gatsby back to San Diego was a nice touch, too.

(Photo: dakotaduff/Flickr Creative Commons)

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61 comments

  • SirWired

    This is a textbook example of how NOT to write a complaint letter or deal with a travel problem. The SW employees made a judgement call. The pax disagreed with it and made a scene. This almost surely made it worse and all but guaranteed that the employees were going to stand their ground.

    Calling the SW employees “cruel and petty”? Flatly stating they “hate/are ‘deathly afraid’” of dogs? This is not a good way to get anybody to pay attention to the complaint, as it makes it hard to separate hyperbole from fact.

    I also think that it is possible the ticket counter possibly saw notes about the puppy from the previous travel history. Given that the puppy had been denied boarding previously because the pax did not keep him in the crate as the policy required, I am guessing that that made it even LESS likely that Gatsby was going anywhere. With the previous history of the dog on SW flights, I know I would not have been likely to simply agree with the assertion that the dog could stand up and move around comfortably without seeing it for myself. 15lb of dog certainly does sound like a tight fit for an under-seat pet carrier!

    Also, if the dog is so nervous about flying that it has to be sedated (which also raises the question as to if it would wear off before arriving at the destination), why not leave it at home in the care of a family friend or quality dogsitter?

  • Toni

    I wrote extensively against the PAWS program. SW was the last (I believe) airline to allow pets on board, making it the last refuge of those with allergies and other problems who wish to fly w/o pets on board. I saw how many pets made it on board when they had a “no pets” policy. If they couldn’t enforce THAT, how do they expect to enforce all the rules governing pets on board — for example, the one about how pax must keep their pet IN the carrier at ALL times? Apparently the people writing this letter don’t get that rule at ALL and violated it on a previous flight.

  • Toni

    I mean….these people violated the rules on a previous flight (allowing the dog out of its carrier while on board) and received $75 as a reward for doing so? That’s what I’m reading here. They probably gave an excuse for taking it out that goes like, “Well, he doesn’t like being cramped up in his carrier.” Meaning, they admit that the carrier is inadequate for his size.
    My takeaway is this…wanna rescue a dog? There are dogs in San Diego to rescue. Once you rescue one there, leave it home when you travel. OR, rescue a dog that will not grow beyond the on-board limits.

  • Kevin

    Honestly, I am of the opinion that if the O/B airport let the dog fly going to Little Rock, why deny him boarding ont he return. I mean seriously, how much could the dog have grown in that week or whatever it was that they were there?

  • Ames

    Chris, yes, some dogs, especially rescued ones, do get separation anxiety. Rescued dogs by their very definition have had some sort of trauma in their lives and often have trust issues so when they do bond to a person, they become fearful of losing the person. Having said all that, if they have had the puppy since it was younger than 14 weeks (travel exerience mentioned in record), this is more likely people with separation anxiety and that happens too.

    My dogs are way too big to travel on planes – I looked into it at one point and discovered that their crates would only fit in the cargo area on certain planes and not the ones that would get me to my destination – so I have found a wonderful kennel with a huge fenced in area where they are very happy. Because I can find bargains for people hotels, I have sometimes paid more for their kennel than my own accomodations (but their’s includes food and recreation for three dogs). I would recommend that these pax look for a good kennel where the pooch can have a fine time socializing with other dogs while they travel.

  • Mike

    The past history of the couple means nothing because the dog was check in and flew legally at that time. The problem was that the dog was let out. The agent would not have known that info anyway based on the stated letter of how the situation was handled from the start.

    The dog clearly flew to the current destination, and as stated was under the weight limit. it had been accepted less than a week earlier, so the Southwest response that the dog didn’t comply with the Southwest guidlines is a poor one. The person who wrote the response obviously only took the word of the attendant who denied boarding, and I think they probably overstated a few things along the way. I mean seriously, the carrier was plenty big enough judging by the past travel. it is too bad that the couple wrote such a poorly thought out letter to the airline. if the letter had been more to the point and with less hostile language I thing that the person reviewing the complaint may have taken a different tone.

    I guess I don’t fly enough because I have never seen a pet on a flight. I am allergic to animals and would have to take a Clatitin or equal before i would board then because I have trouble breathing along with other problems when i am around animals for longer than 15 minutes or so. I think it would be important for the airlines to make acomodations for people with such allergies and keep them away from the pets. I also see an opportunity here… If people have pets, I think that these animals may help calm toddlers or others who might experience anxiety flying. Seat the kids nearby and perhaps instead of needing to jump around constantly or make noise, they can pet the animals and behave a little better.

  • Lianne

    While the folks in this scenario are a little overdramatic, it does seem odd that SW would accept the dog one week and deny it a week later.

    However, they couple in question are acting like special little snowflakes, so its hard to feel sympathy for them. They broke airline policy once and got rewarded for it? Seems as though they have already gotten their “compensation.” Kudos to SW though for being willing to work out a way to get Gatsby home.

  • KF

    I think I have to side with Southwest on this one. I don’t think a 15lb puppy is going to fit under the seat, and if Gatsby is a puppy and still growing, he can put on a bit of weight in a week. The owners should have approached check-in with the dog in the carrier to start and maybe they would not have had as many problems.

    Having flown with my cat while in the process of moving, I would say that pets need to be in their own carriers the entire time they are at the airport and on the plane for good reason Traveling can be a traumatic experience for even the mellowest pet and remaining in their carrier provides a measure of safety and security – to keep the pet from suddenly bolting and to protect people around the pet (I’ve seen friendly dogs suddenly start snapping) and the pet itself (I had several children who wanted to ‘pet the kitty’ and assumed they could without asking).

  • Topher

    Good lord. since these people flew to Little Rock with the puppy, they should have been able to fly home with him. At the same time, from the tone of this guy’s letter I can see why he would be difficult to deal with. I mean, come on…accusing the SW employees of being horrible people who “just hate dogs” just because they’re not giving you what they want? Even if SW was in the wrong, levelling personal attacks is never going to get you anywhere.

    This guy sounds a bit like a spoilt child who is used to getting his way. He should be glad SW is willing to work with him on getting his dog home.

  • http://www.gypsysguide.com Angela K. Nickerson

    I have flown with my dog in the past, and I’ve had this very experience. I got my dog to the destination only to be nearly denied boarding on the way home. This was several years ago and on a different airline. I did not get overly upset and dramatic as these people seem to have done. They did allow her to fly home with me in the end, but that was the last time I flew with my pet. I decided the risk of having to leave her behind or make other arrangements was just too great.

    I’d like to suggest that airlines develop some kind of boarding pass for pets (perhaps with a photo) that books them all the way through their journey when they are checked in for their first flight. That way gate agents would never be put in this situation. If the originating ticket agent is the gatekeeper, so to speak, then the other agents would have documentation upon which to rely. After all, we pay a hefty fee to have our pets on board with us.

  • LeeAnne

    I’m on the fence on this one. I have to agree with all of you who think the couple were being overly dramatic, uncooperative, and expecting special treatment. (I love Lianne’s line that they “are acting like special little snowflakes.”) ;-)

    On the other hand, the dog WAS let on the plane only a week prior. And during the incident at the airport, the DOG certainly wasn’t misbehaving (which can’t necessarily be said for all the PEOPLE involved), so why not just let it go?

    What it seems to boil down to is the carrier. According to the couple, SW allows dogs up to 25 lbs (!?), so the only bone of contention (sorry for the pun!) is that the carrier was deemed too small.

    So, buy a bigger carrier!

  • Abhi

    This rather gets closer to my heart than head. Being a dog owner, I can certainly feel sympathy for the puppy. By the way, those of you who have raised a puppy would know that a puppy would not gain more than 5 lbs in a week, in any extreme case scenario. It would be helpful to see a picture of the puppy in the pet carrier (which Mr. Camp claimed to have plenty) to see whether there was enough space to move around inside. But overall, a puppy is quite agile and athletic to move around in smaller space than a grown dog (just like children, who can do athletic things any adult won’t be able to do easily). Dogs, especially that young, do get separation anxiety (normal dog owners like myself call it ‘getting restless’) if they are not with the people they are used to being with everyday.

    Dogs should NOT be taken on flights, in cabin or in a checked carriers. It’s multiple times worse for a dog to sustain the pressurizing cycles that make humans experience popping ears (uneven pressures in eustachian tube) or the bumps we feel while taking off and landing.

    All this said, the behavior of owners should not be a reason for punishment of the puppy. It was quite inconsiderate of the owners to leave the puppy behind, especially travelling by Southwest. At least one of them could have stayed back, and resolved the issue before getting on another flight. I don’t really see any dog loving person leaving their pet back with strangers unless in dire circumstances, which I am not aware of any in this case.

    I would expect a bit more from Southwest though. Common sense tells you that if the puppy flew to Little Rock a week ago on Southwest, it should be allowed to fly back in the same pet carrier. If size of the carrier was an issue, owners could have been asked to get a new carrier (Little Rock has plenty of Walmart / PetSmart stores) before they could get on to the next flight. Then this would have been win-win situation for the puppy and Southwest. Owners would have only had to spend @ $30 more to provide enough comfort for their own puppy on the flight (which any pet loving person would gladly do).

    Besides, weighing the puppy to see if it really is under 25 lbs would have helped finding the root of the problem. If the puppy did weigh under 25 lbs and still couldn’t fit in a pet carrier under the seat, both Southwest and the owners need to do some thinking before issuing a pet pass to flyers. From my experience with dogs (last 18 years), a puppy weighing less than 25 lbs should not have much of a trouble fitting inside an allowable size pet carrier. Dog breed would not be a governing criterion (unless it’s a very tall slim built) since weight limit puts restriction on size for most of the breeds.

    I think both parties behaved with negative attitude and I just feel sorry for the innocent puppy. Humans are expected to have higher thinking capacity than that exhibited in the above mentioned case.

  • Shannon

    I have a hard time with airlines that change rules in the middle of a trip. If an airline had no problem with the dog flying out there, (regardless of whether or not the customers had broken the crate rule on a previous trip), there should not have been a problem flying back. They obviously overlooked that previous trip when accepting the money for the tickets!
    That said, I feel that the couple could have benefited from the advice Chris gave about “BE NICE!”. If instead of erupting into tears and threats that escalate into police calls, perhaps just being nice would have resolved the issue.

  • http://home.comcast.net/~chucklicht/ Charles Lichtenwalner

    What does a highly allergic to animal hair person do when wanting to fly Southwest? Cat hair, especially, will set off my sneezing and running eyes and I just have to be in the vicinity of the pet. Searching Southwest’s website offers no advice to an affected passengers – only to the pet owners. Any advice?

  • Thalassa

    I started out siding with the passenger, until I read Southwest’s response. Months ago, they were denied boarding because the dog was too big, and they still tried to bring him on again? Bad passenger! No treat for you!

    Seriously, I’m impressed that Southwest is offering to try and work out a way for Gatsby to get home. They owe these passengers nothing.

    Folks, find a good kennel in your area. Kennel keepers love animals and take very good care of them!

  • Ronda

    I think that the situation could’ve been handled better on both sides. People dont seem to understand that for some people they’re pets are like they’re first born children. And this sounds like one of those cases. In that respect, the staff of the airline should’ve been more sympathetic to they’re wish to fly with they’re puppy. Also, I think if the couple was able to get a large enouph travel cage thing before they had to be through security, it should’ve been allowed.
    However I think the couple should’ve held onto they’re tempers a bit better. The staff of the airline want the trip to go well for both poeple and pets. Also, as this program is reletivly new staff members and flight attendents may not be used to traveling animals, so if the dog was nearing weight restrictions they probably panicked a little bit.
    I hope that this couple is able to get they’re pet home soon. They may be better off with an overnight carrier. Alot of them do transport pets, and it may actually be more affordable then putting them with an airline.

  • T. Keyser

    Southwest is my first choice in airlines. I have yet to have a bad flight on them. I think a big part of that is how upfront they are about their services and fees.

    That being said, they let the puppy on the first outbound flight, why not the return flight? That issue seems to be glossed over. Obviously the passengers did not help their case with their behavior.

    I may have an explanation for the denial though: the staff at the Little Rock airport. I fly to Little Rock at least once a month, and I have yet to have a trip where something was not confiscated going through TSA. I’m an experienced traveler, I know about, and observe, the 3-1-1 rules, have a TSA friendly laptop bag, etc. But the staff there is very rigid with the rules. That attitude, I have noticed, extends to non-TSA employees, including the airlines. It’s a very tight ship, and something I’ve grown accustomed to.

    Perhaps this was just a matter of flying from an airport with lax enforcement, to one with strict enforcement.

  • Ronda

    @ charles.

    My causin is allergic to dogs and has flown on airlines that allow them often and have never had an issue. First off most poeple are allergic to doghair, and not the dogs. Unless the air system sucks, you shouldnt have an issue, especially since for security reasons, all pets are kept in the luggage area, and not where hte passengers fly. \
    My causin also takes allergy medication like benedryl or reactine before the flight just in case, and as her allergy is severe she brings an emergancy epipen and because her allergies happen swiftly she warns her flight attendant of the allergy in case she isnt able to react.. but as I’ve said, she’s never had an issue with pets on a plane. She just takes the precautionary steps to be on teh safe side.

  • Toni

    Here is info from the SW website. They do NOT provide a weight limit for in-cabin pets, merely state that the pet must fit inside a carrier of very limited dimensions, and that this carrier must then fit, WITH THE PET INSIDE IT, under the seat in front of the passenger.

    Will pets be allowed in cargo?

    Under no circumstances will we accept pets in the cargo bin. Southwest only accepts cats and dogs in-cabin.

    What types of pet carriers can Customers bring?

    Customers may bring a soft or hard-sided pet carrier that is leak proof and well ventilated. The pet carrier must be small enough to fit under the seat in front of the Customer and be stowed in accordance with Federal Aviation Administration regulations. The dog or cat must be able to stand up and turn around in the carrier with ease.

    How big can my pet carrier be?

    Your pet carrier must be able to fit under the seat in front of you. The under-seat dimensions are as follows:

    * Window Seat: 19″L x 14″W x 8.25″H
    * Middle Seat: 19″L x 19″W x 8.25″H
    * Aisle Seat: 19″L x 14″W x 8.25″H

    However, please keep in mind that some seats might be slightly smaller in width.

    Can the Customer hold his/her pet instead of using a pet carrier?

    No. Pets must be secured in the pet carrier at all times while in the gate area, during boarding/deplaning and they must remain in the carrier for the entire duration of the flight. Failure to follow this requirement may result in denial of transportation of the pet onboard Southwest Airlines.

    What do I do with my pet when I get to the security check point?

    When passing through security, Customers will be asked to hold the pet and walk through the screening device while the carrier is x-rayed.

    Once onboard, can the Customer hold his/her pet?

    No, pets must remain in the carrier. The pet carrier must be stowed under the Customer’s seat for the entire duration of the flight. This policy will be strictly enforced.

  • Katt

    @ Ronda
    “Unless the air system sucks, you shouldnt have an issue, especially since for security reasons, all pets are kept in the luggage area, and not where hte passengers fly.”

    This is not true. The case we are talking about has the pet in the cabin with the passengers.

    @ Charles

    Allergies, well as most airlines do allow pets in the cabin the best you can do when you book your flight is ask if there are any pets on the aircraft. This does not guarantee that you will be on a pet-less flight, but it brings you closer. The other thing I would recommend, when you get to the airport ask the gate agent if there are any pets flying, and if there are make sure you are seated as far as possible from the pet.

    On this story, I agree that the passengers should have been allowed to carry the dog on the return, but never should have let their tempers flare. I think it is awful nice of Southwest to try to help get Gatsby home, as they have to responsibility to do so.

  • Toni

    The couple who wrote the letter are misrepresenting SW’s policy. SW does not state a weight limit for in-cabin pets (and does not accept pets in cargo). So to claim the dog was below a “25-pound limit” is incorrect. There IS NO WEIGHT LIMIT. The limitation is in the size of the carrier, and it must, by law, fit under the seat in front of the passenger bringing it onboard. It cannot be held on a lap or strapped into an empty seat. And the dog must be able to fit inside the regulation-sized carrier in the manner described. But think about it, folks: THAT’S NOT VERY BIG. No 25-pound animal is going to fit in a carrier under a standard airplane seat — not and be in compliance with the requirement that it be able to stand and to turn around, and not to be in compliance with any sense of decency as to how to treat a pet.
    Frankly, as a flight attendant I have dealt with these types of folks many, many times. Their intention is to get the dog onboard and then let him sit in their laps, under a blanket, whatever. But that is against the law and against SW’s policy for in-cabin pets. A lot of people think that by paying a pet fee they have purchased the right to do this. They have not.

  • Toni

    @Abhi…they didn’t leave the dog with strangers; they had a relative come and get it.
    I suspect that the poster who said that rules are followed a little tighter in one airport (LIT) than in another (SAN) is on target. But the way to protect yourself against that is to make sure you are well within limits (get out your tape measure, for example) so that there is no question as to whether you are following the rules. This dog is clearly pushing the boundaries, as I have explained already.
    Abhi, buying a new carrier DOESN’T solve any problem, if the new carrier doesn’t fit UNDER the seat in front of the dog’s owner. It doesn’t solve any problem if the dog still can’t stand up and turn around in it.

  • John

    This one is easy… SW had already told the couple the dog couldn’t fly before. Just because they “slipped it through” on the outbound leg, there’s no reason for them to let it return (remember they had already been told the dog was too big). I can see them in an arguement with TSA … “but I flew out here with the pocket knife in my pocket. Why do I have to throw it away now? You are cruel making me throw away the pocket knife that was a gift from (fill in the blank).” They aren’t cruel just inforcing the rules.

    Good for SW trying to help. The dog doesn’t qualify to help but they’re at least trying to assist them.
    The two flyers need to grow up. You knowingly broke a rule and got caught. Deal with it.

  • http://www.dogjaunt.com Mary-Alice P.

    Toni’s got it right, both regarding Southwest’s actual rules and regarding the size of dog that can fit under an airplane seat. We travel a great deal with our Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, who’s at the small end of her breed — she weighs 13 lbs., and is about 12″ high at the shoulders. She fits, and is comfortable, but she’s really at the upper limit of what works. A 25-lb. dog will not fit under an airplane seat.
    If you’d like more info about traveling with a small dog, please check out http://www.dogjaunt.com. The posts include an article about the problem of allergy sufferers traveling with in-cabin pets.

  • Chicky

    I’ve been on a couple of flights with pets onboard. One was a cat and the other was a malti-pom –both well under 15 pounds. I would imagine a carrier that size would be a tight fit for a 15-pound beagle.
    That said, SW should probably have allowed them to fly since they accepted the dog on the outbound leg. However, the special little snowflakes (love that line, too!) probably knew they were taking a risk, which is why they were having such a fit: they got caught.
    In my experience, people tend to yell louder when they get caught, if they were trying to be sneaky in the first place. If they genuinely have no idea they’re bending the rules, or asking for an exception, they may protest at first, but will usually then quietly make other arrangements. But that’s just IMHO.

  • Cassivella

    The problem stems from the fact that the couple felt their dog wanted to go on this trip with them. I’m sorry, but your dog does not want to go on a plane trip. Unless you are moving, have to take your animal for specialized medical treatment, or unless you have a service animal, pets just don’t belong on planes. I’m sure there are exceptions and that there are animals who do tolerate it well, but the fact that the animal a) misbehaved and was loud on the first flight and b) had to be sedated on this flight prove that the dog was not enjoying itself. It’s just like people dragging their little children off to see grandma when they are too small to even remember the trip (and, frankly, their response that SW people hate dogs is the same that these people use “you just hate children” is a great example of an ad hominem attack)- these people were bringing their dog along with them to show it off – there was no benefit to the animal for this trip.

    Service animals are uncomfortable enough on airplanes (but they are too well-behaved for you to notice unless you are very familiar with animal behavior). A young puppy faces too many stresses in an airport and airplane – especially if the owners refuse to keep it caged (contrary to popular belief, many animals enjoy the security of a crate when they are stressed).

    I actually declined a job offer that was in Alaska simply because I realized what a stress it would be for my animals to make that move. This couple should take a little more responsibility for the well-being of their animal and not drag it across America for their own vanity.

  • Noah

    On one hand, it’s absurd that SWA let them fly to Little Rock, but wouldn’t let them return.

    On the other hand, I just can’t feel bad for people who have this victim’s mentality, blame other people for everything, and generally have an attitude of extreme entitlement.

  • Toni

    The letter-writer/dog owner states that the plane was “only half full.” What this has to do with anything, I don’t know. Was he expecting to give the dog a seat?

    And this paragraph got my attention. I think it indicates just how poorly the guy really understands the rules….or perhaps how arrogant he is for thinking we don’t:

    She told Beren to put him in the dog crate immediately, and she said that he had to be in his crate at all times, which we know is not entirely true, because you have to take him out to go through security, and the policy said that he only has to be in his crate once you go through security, so she was misinformed.

    Well, no, in many, many airports the dog must be in the crate at all times, including at the ticket counter BEFORE you enter the secured area. A lot of this stuff depends on local law.

  • Lianne

    “We put Gatsby in the crate to show that he was erroneous.”

    Also, just because the people who wrote this letter annoy me, I feel the need to point out that one cannot actually be “erroneous.” Erroneous is an adjective, not a noun or a passive verb. One can have an erroneous assumption or make an erroneous conclusion, but one cannot actually be erroneous.

    Your friendly grammer lesson of the day. ;-)

  • Christopher Elliott

    For those of you who want to pounce on Lianne for misspelling “grammer” — that was an intentional misspelling.

    I get it.

    Move along. Nothing to see here.

  • Abhi

    @Toni … For a puppy dog, any person who has not been actively caring for the dog, feed it, pat it, hold it, play with it, is a stranger. Dogs, as of yet, do not recognize relatives. Anyone who has owned and cared for a dog would know this quite well. If it comes to either leave it behind or stay behind with it, at least one of the two could have stayed behind to figure out an alternative. After all it is Southwest and they do not charge for a change fee.

    As far as getting bigger pet carrier goes, of course it has to fit under the seat. But knowing the available dimensions in a real time situation, the biggest pet carrier that could fit within limitations could have been obtained and used. And if the puppy wouldn’t fit in that either, there is no reason to complain for Gatsby’s owners. It would mean a complete ignorance on their behalf to bring that dog for the flight (which I believe I have emphasized enough with bold letters in the first place).

    I have no favorites in this as both, the owners and Southwest, have made that little puppy miserable. May be owners have a bigger share but Southwest is not completely spotless either. Owners should have been careful not to put their puppy in that situation. Obviously they failed to see the problem beforehand or ignored it.

    I do not think Southwest should make any special arrangements for the pet owners as a rule, but an exception could be made when there is not other easier way to transport a pet, which was allowed to get to Little Rock in the first place on Southwest. Had Southwest been consistent about their policies, this would not have happened and issue would have been recognized right when the dog traveled to Little Rock.

  • LeeAnne

    @Christopher – now THAT was funny!

  • RegularJane

    What a surprise: Condescending Snob Lianne popping up to be the spelling/grammer police.

    And why is it okay for Lianne to correct others but no one is allowed to correct her?

    Of course you “get it,” Elliott. You’re obviously getting something in exchange for allowing her consistently rude posts through and now standing up for her before anyone even says anything. Interesting how you knew people would “pound” her (interesting choice of word, btw), and your post is minutes after hers. Where does this “Lianne” reside, anyway? Under your desk?

  • EricR

    This is the problem when emotional pet owners anthropomorphize their dogs. They think putting a dog in a crate is cruel (which it isn’t, because a dog should enjoy being in a den), think that holding a dog in a check-in line is going to calm its nerves (just the opposite – it will reward the dog’s fear because affection has been given for the behavior, thereby increasing the chances of future fearful reactions), and believe that everyone loves dogs.

    As good as their intentions are, and as large as their hearts are to rescue a dog, these are the worst type of persons to own a pet since they can’t control their emotions and affection, and have no concept of proper dog discipline and boundaries.

    If a dog is shivering with its tail between its legs, you DON’T pet it! That just reinforces the fear. Same if a dog is growling at a person or another dog – NEVER reward that behavior with affection!

    And if you’re going to fly with your dog, the BEST way to alleviate its fears is to keep it SAFE in its secure crate where your dog knows it’s protected. Taking your dog out at the check-in line (or on a plane) is sheer lunacy and was a very bad decision on the OP’s part.

    That having been said, if I’d gotten that type of attitude from any Southwest employees, they would have HAD to call the police to stop me from wringing their superior self-important necks. I would never allow some hick with just enough intelligence to get employment at a Little Rock airport to prevent my beloved dog from returning home with me. There’d be blood in the streets!

    @Mary-Alice P. – would you believe my Cavalier King Charles Spaniel is 25 pounds! He’s not fat at all and stands as tall as my knees. His littermate is 22 pounds, and she’s the alpha :) As cute as they are, I’d never be able to get them on a plane. Wouldn’t want to torture them like that, anyway. They’d be much happier enduring some mild separation anxiety with our housesitter than suffering through the TSA’s nonsense. (Heck, if my dogs didn’t bite the TSA agents, I might! lol!)

  • Christopher Elliott

    @Regular Jane/Joe, I meant to say “pounce” and have fixed the comment. Thanks for the catch.

    I don’t know LeeAnne, but I wanted to stop a skirmish over “grammer” before it started. I’m just trying to keep the comments on-topic. That is my only interest in jumping in.

  • Lianne

    Sigh…Lianne (me, the goofy poster) and LeeAnne (the one who takes issue with barbie, not me) ARE TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, hence the different spelling of the name.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

  • Remmie

    They should have claimed it was a service animal. By law, the airline cannot ask for proof, so they’d have to allow the dog on the plane. Also, service animals do not need to be in harnesses. My sister has a cat that alerts her to seizures. One airline tried to give her grief about it–the gate agent even called her a scammer–and then she produced a copy of a letter from her doctor. Then, she reported them to the FAA and disabilities office. The airline got in trouble. It was awesome.

  • Bill

    Once I read Southwest’s response, I realized the people with the pet should not have even considered taking fido on the plane. I don’t agree with pets on planes, it is bad for people with allergies. They took peanuts off the plane and let pets on? And yes, I do love animals, just not other people’s animals on aircraft.

  • Duke Nukem

    Lianne vs LeeAnne, grammar vs grammer…I thought this was a travel blog comment forum….

  • http://aol barbie45

    Lianne. good closing line on your post. I am curious as to the options Southwest will offer for transportation for the pet.

  • SirWired

    Remmie,

    Claiming an animal is a “service animal” when it is NOT is a HORRIBLE idea on many fronts.

    1) If there is a sudden surge in fake service animals, the law WILL be changed to increase airline discretion on service animals, even genuine ones. You can bet that there WILL be a requirement to license service animals, at least for plane travel.
    2) The airlines ARE allowed to request what specific ability the animal has. They cannot demand written certification initially for some animals, but they can ask specifically what the animal is supposed to do.
    3) In the case of “emotional support animals”, the airline IS allowed to request documentation.
    4) If the pax’s assertion of a service animal is not credible, the airline IS allowed to request documentation. For instance, if a seizure alert cat is mewing constantly at the ticket counter, it would not be credible to state that it alerts right before a siezure by mewing. A dog running randomly around yapping can’t credibly be called a guide dog.
    5) The animal is required to be well-behaved. Even a seeing-eye dog in a harness for somebody clearly blind can be denied boarding if it is constantly growling or snarling, urinating on the gate-area chairs, etc.

    Please, please, don’t EVER claim your ordinary pet is a service animal. This is as bad as people who borrow their mother-in-law’s handicapped tag to get a good parking place at the mall.

  • Toni

    The initial letter-writers are JUST the kind of people to get a note from their chiropractor, herbal-healer, stepbrother the MD or the school-psychologist-who-lives-next-door saying that they have some sort of emotional condition which requires the constant presence of their dog. I would say that the MAJORITY of pax I see on planes with ESAs are completely bogus, and I say this because so many of them shamelessly tell me how smart they are for getting their pet designated as such.

    I am wondering if Christopher will make sure that the letter-writers see all of these responses. I am wondering if he will make sure that the folks at SW do as well.

  • Christopher Elliott

    @Toni, I can assure you, these comments are being read. (Although I think I may be off my friend Paula’s holiday card list.)

  • Paulette Baker

    I’d rather fly with a dog on the plane than most kids!

  • http://aol barbie45

    Eric , When I post something that you do not care for you make it very clear in a very arrogant fashion. My fiance and I own a miniature Italian greyhound. Because she is so high- strung we decided it best not to permit her to fly in consideration of other passengers and for her own mental health.

  • Lianne

    Re: Why I made the “grammer” comment

    Apparently it was a lousy joke for me to make since my name is a homonym to LeeAnn (Who I have no issues with, just wish that the people who feel the need to bug her would realize we’re not the same person. This is the first time I’ve ever made comments on anyone’s grammar in ths blog.).

    I did have a point. As Toni (and others) have stated, this letter this couple reeks of entitlement. Their sweetest itty pitty puppy ever had been psychologically damaged by the meany nastyfaced Southwest agents? Give me a break. I just found it funny that in their very dramatic narrative instead of saying “mistaken” or “incorrect” which would have gotten the point accross, they tried to use a big fancy word and they used it, well, erroneously (which in this case is an adverb).

    BTW This letter is even more fun when you read out loud it in an overdramatic Scarlet O’Hara voice. Give it a try!

    That said, while I feel this couple is obnoxious, I feel bad for their dog. I hope Gatsby gets (or got) home safe and sound.

  • Mike

    @ John and Thalassa, They were not denied boarding before, but were allowed to fly and reprimanded for allowing the dog out of the cage as it apparently had not been secured correctly. At least that is what I got out of the letter from Southwest.

    It is also interesting to see that they apparently do not have a 25lb rule. Perhaps another airline does and there was some confusion? I know if I had a special need and had to look at the contract of carriage for every carrier, they would all morph together after a while. Still, the dog hey had should have been able to fit into the space listed for dimensions. It seems as though all artied overreacted here.

  • Toni

    I figured SOMEONE would chime in about how dogs are so much better to have on board than kids. They’re SUPPOSED to be. They’re PETS.

  • Jennifer

    I do not like pets on planes. I think that if they do make it on the plane that they must stay in the carrier at all times, and that the airline owes it to the other passengers to make them aware that the animal is on the plane. I am getting very, very tired of people with animals (and it is 99% percent of the time it is the dog people) that feel that everyone should love their animal as much as the owners do. I can assure you, I do not. Keep it in the carrier except through security or leave it at home, the animal is happier there anyway. You can apply the same rules to the mall, restaurants, local outdoor festivals, retail outlets, and the art museum. Exception goes to the assistance animals, of course.

  • Nancy

    “Emotional Support Animals” are bogus. If you can’t live without your rat/cat/iguana/dog/rabbit/pig, please don’t leave your house.

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