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	<title>Comments on: Customers pressure Hertz to change refueling policy &#8212; and it does</title>
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		<title>By: Ty</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-35875</link>
		<dc:creator>Ty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 04:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Elliot,
I realize this blog is dated back in 2008, but apparently Hertz has gotten back to their old trick.  I just returned a rental from Hertz earlier today and tripped totalling 91 miles after 3 days, I was to shock to see the bill for $53.38 for gas &amp; service.  The receipt indicates $8.99/gal.  I am just lost for word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Elliot,<br />
I realize this blog is dated back in 2008, but apparently Hertz has gotten back to their old trick.  I just returned a rental from Hertz earlier today and tripped totalling 91 miles after 3 days, I was to shock to see the bill for $53.38 for gas &amp; service.  The receipt indicates $8.99/gal.  I am just lost for word.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Samtoy</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-18964</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Samtoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a law firm and want to talk to persons who were charged refueling fees by rental car companies.  We are especially (but not exclusively) interested in people in the state of Ohio.  It doesn’t matter which rental company charged the fee – Hertz, Avis or Budget – we want to talk to you.  Please contact Andrew Samtoy at Dworken and Bernstein, L.P.A., at (866) 964-1806.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a law firm and want to talk to persons who were charged refueling fees by rental car companies.  We are especially (but not exclusively) interested in people in the state of Ohio.  It doesn’t matter which rental company charged the fee – Hertz, Avis or Budget – we want to talk to you.  Please contact Andrew Samtoy at Dworken and Bernstein, L.P.A., at (866) 964-1806.</p>
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		<title>By: tripso.com &#124; Hertz quietly reverts back to overpriced fuel purchase options</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-15653</link>
		<dc:creator>tripso.com &#124; Hertz quietly reverts back to overpriced fuel purchase options</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was too good to last. Hertz&#8217; much-welcome decision in July to charge customers who didn&#8217;t prepay for a tank of gas based on the average price per gallon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was too good to last. Hertz&#8217; much-welcome decision in July to charge customers who didn&#8217;t prepay for a tank of gas based on the average price per gallon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-13300</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So my boyfriend and I are getting ready for an out of town wedding where we need to rent from Hertz.  We don&#039;t expect to have time to refuel before returning the car - but we will probably be driving less than 40 miles.  So am I right to assume that we will be charged some amount of cents per mile we drive - in order to calculate the refueling charge?  What if we drive one of their green cars - is the amt different from one of their sportier cars and if so does ANYBODY know how such a calculation is made?  I mean aside from lowering their prices, has Hertz changed anything about the way they bizarrely calculate their refueling costs?  PLEASE CLUE ME IN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So my boyfriend and I are getting ready for an out of town wedding where we need to rent from Hertz.  We don&#8217;t expect to have time to refuel before returning the car &#8211; but we will probably be driving less than 40 miles.  So am I right to assume that we will be charged some amount of cents per mile we drive &#8211; in order to calculate the refueling charge?  What if we drive one of their green cars &#8211; is the amt different from one of their sportier cars and if so does ANYBODY know how such a calculation is made?  I mean aside from lowering their prices, has Hertz changed anything about the way they bizarrely calculate their refueling costs?  PLEASE CLUE ME IN!</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Gresham</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-12898</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean Gresham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our law firm is investigating this issue on behalf of an existing client and we are gathering factual information related to Hertz&#039;s refueling policy.  If this has happened to you and you have documentary proof, please contact me at dgresham@fineberglaw.com or (214) 219-8828.  We are trying to ascertain the nature, extent, and scope of this problem.  

Thank you,
Dean Gresham</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our law firm is investigating this issue on behalf of an existing client and we are gathering factual information related to Hertz&#8217;s refueling policy.  If this has happened to you and you have documentary proof, please contact me at <a href="mailto:dgresham@fineberglaw.com">dgresham@fineberglaw.com</a> or (214) 219-8828.  We are trying to ascertain the nature, extent, and scope of this problem.  </p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Dean Gresham</p>
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		<title>By: Bart Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-12581</link>
		<dc:creator>Bart Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Chris for actually getting something done about my complaint.  I&#039;lve been trying to figure out how to file a complaint with the FTC or another appropriate agency but now you&#039;ve done it for all of us.

As you recall, I had another Hertz rental and put 135 miles on it.  I returned it full (not just the needle showing Full, but actually had filled the tank) and was charged about $70.  So will Hertz&#039;s new policy be to no longer charge for fuel regardless of the miles driven,  as long as cars are returned Full, or only if you show a receipt or happen to notice THEIR fraudulent charge (uh, I mean mistake).

Good job!  I might just continue my Hertz #1 Gold membership.  
Bart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Chris for actually getting something done about my complaint.  I&#8217;lve been trying to figure out how to file a complaint with the FTC or another appropriate agency but now you&#8217;ve done it for all of us.</p>
<p>As you recall, I had another Hertz rental and put 135 miles on it.  I returned it full (not just the needle showing Full, but actually had filled the tank) and was charged about $70.  So will Hertz&#8217;s new policy be to no longer charge for fuel regardless of the miles driven,  as long as cars are returned Full, or only if you show a receipt or happen to notice THEIR fraudulent charge (uh, I mean mistake).</p>
<p>Good job!  I might just continue my Hertz #1 Gold membership.<br />
Bart</p>
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		<title>By: tripso.com &#124; Is this the final chapter in the car rental refueling scam?</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-12580</link>
		<dc:creator>tripso.com &#124; Is this the final chapter in the car rental refueling scam?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it appeared the action was based on pressure from customers. But in retrospect, the Maryland decision may have [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Maynard Dodson</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-12569</link>
		<dc:creator>Maynard Dodson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many times when someone rents a car only for a day, they don&#039;t end up driving the car enough for the gas needle to move below the &quot;Full&quot; mark, so they don&#039;t put any fuel in the tank.  If Hertz actually attempted to put gas in every car that&#039;s returned with the needle on F, I wouldn&#039;t have  a problem with this fee.  Having to show a receipt would prove that you actually did add a couple of gallons before returning.  However, when the needle is on F, I doubt that Hertz tries to add any more gas to the car, and it&#039;s quickly cleaned and returned to the rental line.  Then the next customer rents the car with 2 gallons less than full, and pays for those 2 gallons when they refill the car at the end of the rental.  Maybe the Hertz policy isn&#039;t fair, but is it fair to the second person who rents the car? The car appears to be full, but isn&#039;t, and they end up paying for the fuel useage of the previous customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many times when someone rents a car only for a day, they don&#8217;t end up driving the car enough for the gas needle to move below the &#8220;Full&#8221; mark, so they don&#8217;t put any fuel in the tank.  If Hertz actually attempted to put gas in every car that&#8217;s returned with the needle on F, I wouldn&#8217;t have  a problem with this fee.  Having to show a receipt would prove that you actually did add a couple of gallons before returning.  However, when the needle is on F, I doubt that Hertz tries to add any more gas to the car, and it&#8217;s quickly cleaned and returned to the rental line.  Then the next customer rents the car with 2 gallons less than full, and pays for those 2 gallons when they refill the car at the end of the rental.  Maybe the Hertz policy isn&#8217;t fair, but is it fair to the second person who rents the car? The car appears to be full, but isn&#8217;t, and they end up paying for the fuel useage of the previous customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/customers-pressure-hertz-to-change-refueling-policy-and-it-does/comment-page-1/#comment-12560</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in Toronto and have rented from AVIS for 14+ years.  Their system automatically tacks on the fuel charge if the car has been driven 125 km or less.  However, the charge is manually removed when I show them the receipt for filling the tank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in Toronto and have rented from AVIS for 14+ years.  Their system automatically tacks on the fuel charge if the car has been driven 125 km or less.  However, the charge is manually removed when I show them the receipt for filling the tank.</p>
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		<title>By: Christen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to hear about the gas prices, probably because they are already obscene without adding extra percentage cut on top.  

Not completely related, but I just learned this the hard way last week, might be helpful to others.  Hertz&#039; definition of spouse does not extend to domestic partners, you must be married to be automatically covered by their insurance.  Surprising to me because I live in California where spouse and dp are treated the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to hear about the gas prices, probably because they are already obscene without adding extra percentage cut on top.  </p>
<p>Not completely related, but I just learned this the hard way last week, might be helpful to others.  Hertz&#8217; definition of spouse does not extend to domestic partners, you must be married to be automatically covered by their insurance.  Surprising to me because I live in California where spouse and dp are treated the same.</p>
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