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	<title>Comments on: Continental Airlines poaches a frequent flier after Delta drops the ball</title>
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		<title>By: Gregg</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-51697</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave up on Delta after a two-day delay in Atlanta a couple of years ago. I was flying Dublin-Tulsa via ATL in Biz First. After arriving in ATL my flight to Tulsa was cancelled because  the crew was stuck in Richmond. They rebooked me on a flight the following morning but refused a Comp hotel.  The following morning the weather had deteriorated and my second flight to Tulsa was cancelled. After receiving no help on the phone and horrendous lines at the ticket counter, I got on a flight to Oklahoma City, rented a car and drove 100 miles to Tulsa. A letter to Delta went unanswered so I tried email. I received an unbelievable response: I was told that Delta was shocked that I had the &quot;temerity&quot; to complain because I was travelling on an award ticket. And how much did it cost me to earn that award ticket ? Plenty. I have never flown Delta since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave up on Delta after a two-day delay in Atlanta a couple of years ago. I was flying Dublin-Tulsa via ATL in Biz First. After arriving in ATL my flight to Tulsa was cancelled because  the crew was stuck in Richmond. They rebooked me on a flight the following morning but refused a Comp hotel.  The following morning the weather had deteriorated and my second flight to Tulsa was cancelled. After receiving no help on the phone and horrendous lines at the ticket counter, I got on a flight to Oklahoma City, rented a car and drove 100 miles to Tulsa. A letter to Delta went unanswered so I tried email. I received an unbelievable response: I was told that Delta was shocked that I had the &#8220;temerity&#8221; to complain because I was travelling on an award ticket. And how much did it cost me to earn that award ticket ? Plenty. I have never flown Delta since.</p>
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		<title>By: DN</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30993</link>
		<dc:creator>DN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen has a point; as an Alaska Airlines Gold MVP, I&#039;ve found that the NW and Delta sites still act like they are separate companies.  If I book a Delta flight, I don&#039;t get any of the freebies that NW and AS members share (choice in premium seating for free, early boarding, upgrade list capability, etc) but I *do* get it if I book a NW flight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen has a point; as an Alaska Airlines Gold MVP, I&#8217;ve found that the NW and Delta sites still act like they are separate companies.  If I book a Delta flight, I don&#8217;t get any of the freebies that NW and AS members share (choice in premium seating for free, early boarding, upgrade list capability, etc) but I *do* get it if I book a NW flight.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30816</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a little confused. If she is such a frequent flyer, how did she not notice CO&#039;s change from SkyTeam to Star? It was very well publicized, and I for one welcomed it. All of the rules about what flights would count, and how to claim miles were there posted on CO&#039;s web site long ago. Additionally, if she booked the ticket before the change over date, even if she flew after, she should have been entitled to the Delta miles. I did the reverse, where I booked a Delta flight before October 24, but flew after, and I got the CO miles.

Whenever I can, I fly Continental. They seem to actually care about their passengers. I live equidistant from Newark, JFK and Logan, and could fly Delta or American with equal ease, but I far prefer how Continental treats me, the significantly better condition of their aircraft, and their food on long flights is significantly better. This is a case of Continental taking a few extra steps, none of which really cost them much, to make someone happy. I bet she will be far more likely to fly CO in the future. There is an old adage that if you don&#039;t take care of your customers, someone else will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a little confused. If she is such a frequent flyer, how did she not notice CO&#8217;s change from SkyTeam to Star? It was very well publicized, and I for one welcomed it. All of the rules about what flights would count, and how to claim miles were there posted on CO&#8217;s web site long ago. Additionally, if she booked the ticket before the change over date, even if she flew after, she should have been entitled to the Delta miles. I did the reverse, where I booked a Delta flight before October 24, but flew after, and I got the CO miles.</p>
<p>Whenever I can, I fly Continental. They seem to actually care about their passengers. I live equidistant from Newark, JFK and Logan, and could fly Delta or American with equal ease, but I far prefer how Continental treats me, the significantly better condition of their aircraft, and their food on long flights is significantly better. This is a case of Continental taking a few extra steps, none of which really cost them much, to make someone happy. I bet she will be far more likely to fly CO in the future. There is an old adage that if you don&#8217;t take care of your customers, someone else will.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Pierz</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30814</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathleen Pierz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Chris could not include every detail in his article.  I was a Northwest FF, and Northwest did NOT notify customers and in fact Continental is STILL listed on the NWA website as a partner airline - go look. http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/allia/partners.shtml   Delta did not notify those who were on the NWA side of the merger. Delta sent me a letter with my new Delta FF card spelling out the changes in the program, no change in the codeshare status of Continental was noted, I entered my FF numbers when I booked and it was accepted and the NWA website listed Continental as a partner - I checked before I booked - seems reasonable to me.  I don&#039;t have the time I need to follow every detail of the airline industry, I check websites when I need to and just try to get from point A to point B on each trip. I&#039;m the frazzed single mom of 3 teenage kids who travels way too much.
I requested my money back for the Delta Sky Club because my previous membership just now expired and the new membership doesn&#039;t meet my needs and I wasn&#039;t told about the changes. I haven&#039;t gotten that back either and it has been almost a month.
The real story, however, is that Delta Airlines (the company I consider the &#039;responsible party&#039; in this confusion) sent me a form letter telling me &quot;NO&quot; and Continental, who really had no need to feel responsible stepped up to the plate and stunned me with outstanding service.  All I requested was the mileage credit I felt I should have gotten due to the poor communication - how much would that have cost Delta? I use all my miles to fly my foster son back and forth to visit his extended family on the Navajo reservation; so those miles matter to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Chris could not include every detail in his article.  I was a Northwest FF, and Northwest did NOT notify customers and in fact Continental is STILL listed on the NWA website as a partner airline &#8211; go look. <a href="http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/allia/partners.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.nwa.com/corpinfo/allia/partners.shtml</a>   Delta did not notify those who were on the NWA side of the merger. Delta sent me a letter with my new Delta FF card spelling out the changes in the program, no change in the codeshare status of Continental was noted, I entered my FF numbers when I booked and it was accepted and the NWA website listed Continental as a partner &#8211; I checked before I booked &#8211; seems reasonable to me.  I don&#8217;t have the time I need to follow every detail of the airline industry, I check websites when I need to and just try to get from point A to point B on each trip. I&#8217;m the frazzed single mom of 3 teenage kids who travels way too much.<br />
I requested my money back for the Delta Sky Club because my previous membership just now expired and the new membership doesn&#8217;t meet my needs and I wasn&#8217;t told about the changes. I haven&#8217;t gotten that back either and it has been almost a month.<br />
The real story, however, is that Delta Airlines (the company I consider the &#8216;responsible party&#8217; in this confusion) sent me a form letter telling me &#8220;NO&#8221; and Continental, who really had no need to feel responsible stepped up to the plate and stunned me with outstanding service.  All I requested was the mileage credit I felt I should have gotten due to the poor communication &#8211; how much would that have cost Delta? I use all my miles to fly my foster son back and forth to visit his extended family on the Navajo reservation; so those miles matter to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30813</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Chris

No Problem.  Break out the check boot.  I think you&#039;ll need to mortgage the house to fly soon, if all the airlines keep raising their rates.  I think most travelers will LEARN TO FLY LIGHT.  I bring a carry on, weigh it, and check nothing.  However, I am sure it won&#039;t be long before there are fees for your &quot;First and Second Carry ons&quot;......

Continental is still a great airline but their fees are &quot;Greater&quot;.... Disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Chris</p>
<p>No Problem.  Break out the check boot.  I think you&#8217;ll need to mortgage the house to fly soon, if all the airlines keep raising their rates.  I think most travelers will LEARN TO FLY LIGHT.  I bring a carry on, weigh it, and check nothing.  However, I am sure it won&#8217;t be long before there are fees for your &#8220;First and Second Carry ons&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Continental is still a great airline but their fees are &#8220;Greater&#8221;&#8230;. Disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30804</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin, when I posted the story on Tuesday morning, it was only Delta. Thanks for the update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin, when I posted the story on Tuesday morning, it was only Delta. Thanks for the update.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30796</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Woops I missed that you did report on Delta. However, you did not mention Continental WILL ALSO BE RAISING their fares to align themselves with Delta.

My apologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Woops I missed that you did report on Delta. However, you did not mention Continental WILL ALSO BE RAISING their fares to align themselves with Delta.</p>
<p>My apologies.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30795</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAVES AT CHRIS...

You missed a MAJOR travel story.  Here&#039;s the link at CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/01/12/delta.baggage.fees/index.html

Delta and Continental at RAISING their baggage fees for checked bags! Give it a few years and it will cost AS MUCH to fly with a bag as it does for your plane ticket!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAVES AT CHRIS&#8230;</p>
<p>You missed a MAJOR travel story.  Here&#8217;s the link at CNN.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/01/12/delta.baggage.fees/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/01/12/delta.baggage.fees/index.html</a></p>
<p>Delta and Continental at RAISING their baggage fees for checked bags! Give it a few years and it will cost AS MUCH to fly with a bag as it does for your plane ticket!!</p>
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		<title>By: Carver</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30773</link>
		<dc:creator>Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caitlin

I think your comments are excellent and spot on.

@SWL

Excellent point.  She&#039;s a Delta FF.  I doubt if Delta spent too much time publicizing who enters and leaves the loyalty program.

I am a member of AA.  There is usually maybe one e-mail about a partner leaving.  I&#039;d have to check to see who is still a member of the program and what level they participate it.

@Others

I don&#039;t fault the OP for being a little confused about lounges.  There are many ways to gain entry into a loungne.At AA, you gain entry by membership, membership in partnership airline,certain types of internation tickets, membership in certain credit cards, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caitlin</p>
<p>I think your comments are excellent and spot on.</p>
<p>@SWL</p>
<p>Excellent point.  She&#8217;s a Delta FF.  I doubt if Delta spent too much time publicizing who enters and leaves the loyalty program.</p>
<p>I am a member of AA.  There is usually maybe one e-mail about a partner leaving.  I&#8217;d have to check to see who is still a member of the program and what level they participate it.</p>
<p>@Others</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t fault the OP for being a little confused about lounges.  There are many ways to gain entry into a loungne.At AA, you gain entry by membership, membership in partnership airline,certain types of internation tickets, membership in certain credit cards, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/continental-airlines-poaches-a-frequent-flier-after-delta-drops-the-ball/comment-page-1/#comment-30765</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly enjoy flying Continental.  The past several times I have used them, I have walked away a VERY VERY HAPPY customer.  Their stewards and stewardesses are very friendly.  Their service is great.  Continental, so far, seems to be one of the few airlines that ACTUALLY CARES (yes I said it!).  

Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly enjoy flying Continental.  The past several times I have used them, I have walked away a VERY VERY HAPPY customer.  Their stewards and stewardesses are very friendly.  Their service is great.  Continental, so far, seems to be one of the few airlines that ACTUALLY CARES (yes I said it!).  </p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caitlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Carver It was Chris who used the phrase &quot;best customer&quot;.

@Adrian said: &quot;As for flying internationally, you would have to be brain-dead to not check up on your flights at least once per week.&quot; Are you serious? In my book, you would have to be anally retentive to check up on your flights once a week. That&#039;s completely over the top. I book my flights and then check on them the week I fly. That&#039;s quite enough.

@SWL Excellent point. Why should a Delta frequent flyer know what Continental is doing? She booked the flight through Delta (it was codeshare), that should be enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carver It was Chris who used the phrase &#8220;best customer&#8221;.</p>
<p>@Adrian said: &#8220;As for flying internationally, you would have to be brain-dead to not check up on your flights at least once per week.&#8221; Are you serious? In my book, you would have to be anally retentive to check up on your flights once a week. That&#8217;s completely over the top. I book my flights and then check on them the week I fly. That&#8217;s quite enough.</p>
<p>@SWL Excellent point. Why should a Delta frequent flyer know what Continental is doing? She booked the flight through Delta (it was codeshare), that should be enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are missing the main point here.  Too many times we hear about airlines answers always being all about no, no, no.

It is nice to hear about an airline being smart and thinking outside the box.  They are competing for the valuable business travelers.  They managed to get a valuable flier for probably years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are missing the main point here.  Too many times we hear about airlines answers always being all about no, no, no.</p>
<p>It is nice to hear about an airline being smart and thinking outside the box.  They are competing for the valuable business travelers.  They managed to get a valuable flier for probably years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: SWL</title>
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		<dc:creator>SWL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think people are missing the point that she was a Delta Platinum level FF, not Continental.  It&#039;s not as if Delta was publicizing Continental&#039;s switch from Sky Team to Star Alliance.  I find it entirely believable that a Delta FF that doesn&#039;t make a point to follow travel news (not everyone monitors this site!)could be unaware of Continental&#039;s move.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think people are missing the point that she was a Delta Platinum level FF, not Continental.  It&#8217;s not as if Delta was publicizing Continental&#8217;s switch from Sky Team to Star Alliance.  I find it entirely believable that a Delta FF that doesn&#8217;t make a point to follow travel news (not everyone monitors this site!)could be unaware of Continental&#8217;s move.</p>
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		<title>By: David Farnham</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Farnham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Liz.  This seems to have been totally the customer&#039;s fault for not following ongoing events.  It&#039;s hard to believe this is a top-level elite flyer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Liz.  This seems to have been totally the customer&#8217;s fault for not following ongoing events.  It&#8217;s hard to believe this is a top-level elite flyer.</p>
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		<title>By: schuey</title>
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		<dc:creator>schuey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>happy to see that the comments make sense. Clearly, the switch from Continental to StarAlliance was major news in the US sky, the non eligibility to the lounges absolutely normal. good on delta to have &quot;done the right thing&quot; but her complain is just not justified...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happy to see that the comments make sense. Clearly, the switch from Continental to StarAlliance was major news in the US sky, the non eligibility to the lounges absolutely normal. good on delta to have &#8220;done the right thing&#8221; but her complain is just not justified&#8230;</p>
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