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	<title>Comments on: Bait and switch insanity? Quoted $270 for a rental car, but charged $1,227</title>
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		<title>By: Carly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent some time working abroad in Mexico.  I paid an exorbitant amount of money for my apartment, which was in a great area and furnished beautifully, but extremely poorly maintained by my landlord.  For example, we paid all the utility bills on time but our electricity was cut off for a weekend because of an unpaid bill from four months before we moved in.  When I left, my landlord refuesd to refund my damage deposit (as per our contract).  We argued for months, but eventually all it took was a threat to report them to Profeco- http://www.profeco.gob.mx/consumidor/extranjeros.asp - a great resource for consumer issues in Mexico.  As long as you&#039;ve got the paperwork, you&#039;re good to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent some time working abroad in Mexico.  I paid an exorbitant amount of money for my apartment, which was in a great area and furnished beautifully, but extremely poorly maintained by my landlord.  For example, we paid all the utility bills on time but our electricity was cut off for a weekend because of an unpaid bill from four months before we moved in.  When I left, my landlord refuesd to refund my damage deposit (as per our contract).  We argued for months, but eventually all it took was a threat to report them to Profeco- <a href="http://www.profeco.gob.mx/consumidor/extranjeros.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.profeco.gob.mx/consumidor/extranjeros.asp</a> &#8211; a great resource for consumer issues in Mexico.  As long as you&#8217;ve got the paperwork, you&#8217;re good to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anukexpat

In fact, if they used the same reservations website to book the travel, you&#039;d probably have a fairly easy time sueing hertz USA.</description>
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<p>In fact, if they used the same reservations website to book the travel, you&#8217;d probably have a fairly easy time sueing hertz USA.</p>
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		<title>By: Carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anukexpat

That&#039;s really a sophisticated legal question that would be determined by the specific relationship between Hertz USA and Hertz Mexico.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s really a sophisticated legal question that would be determined by the specific relationship between Hertz USA and Hertz Mexico.</p>
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		<title>By: anukexpat</title>
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		<dc:creator>anukexpat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck suing Hertz in Mexico - the rental contract was with Hertz Mexico so suing Hertz US will be a waste of time and effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck suing Hertz in Mexico &#8211; the rental contract was with Hertz Mexico so suing Hertz US will be a waste of time and effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Stoyko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stoyko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an issue with Hertz at the same location. Two weeks before my trip I reserved a car from them, they were the cheapest option. I used Travelocity for the reservation, but it was not pre-paid. A month before the trip I checked all reservations and discovered that they had doubled their price. I contacted them via email to ask for the reason they wouldn&#039;t honor their original quote, and their response was that airport fees were not included in the original quote. I then highlighted the airport fees stated in the Travelocity confirmation and asked to get in contact with a manager. This never happened. I also asked Travelocity to look into the issue, but they said that I should be charged what originally quoted and I should turn to them after I receive the final bill. I decided not to take the chance and went with the next cheapest option - still much cheaper than Hertz&#039;s adjusted quote.

Bottom line - check your reservation before the trip. If possible, even call the location to confirm it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an issue with Hertz at the same location. Two weeks before my trip I reserved a car from them, they were the cheapest option. I used Travelocity for the reservation, but it was not pre-paid. A month before the trip I checked all reservations and discovered that they had doubled their price. I contacted them via email to ask for the reason they wouldn&#8217;t honor their original quote, and their response was that airport fees were not included in the original quote. I then highlighted the airport fees stated in the Travelocity confirmation and asked to get in contact with a manager. This never happened. I also asked Travelocity to look into the issue, but they said that I should be charged what originally quoted and I should turn to them after I receive the final bill. I decided not to take the chance and went with the next cheapest option &#8211; still much cheaper than Hertz&#8217;s adjusted quote.</p>
<p>Bottom line &#8211; check your reservation before the trip. If possible, even call the location to confirm it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Pierz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Pierz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had trouble with this same Hertz outlet; bait and switch and then trouble returning the car. As a result of the chaos in trying to return the vehicle and being forced to wait in a long line we actually missed the last tender to our cruise ship - inspite of my pleading to be taken care of (I&#039;m a native Spanish speaker, there was no language barrier).  Overall, renting cars in developing countries should not be undertaken by the faint of heart.  Be 100% sure you know what you are getting. Also if you have flights to catch or a cruise ship to make it back to plan several extra hours to get the car issues resolved.  I hate to be so pessamistic, but I believe this particular Hertz outlet knows you will not have time to argue and leverages that to their advantage.  If things seem a bit fuzzy why not video tape what you are being told? Plan for the worst case scenario and know where the gas stations are and what the hours are  Make good use of your video camera while traveling; you can always edit out the footage when you get home.  Also, use your camera to take photos of the car before you leave the lot.  We had pursue the over charges once were were back in the States, but after a long series of letters we got a partial refund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had trouble with this same Hertz outlet; bait and switch and then trouble returning the car. As a result of the chaos in trying to return the vehicle and being forced to wait in a long line we actually missed the last tender to our cruise ship &#8211; inspite of my pleading to be taken care of (I&#8217;m a native Spanish speaker, there was no language barrier).  Overall, renting cars in developing countries should not be undertaken by the faint of heart.  Be 100% sure you know what you are getting. Also if you have flights to catch or a cruise ship to make it back to plan several extra hours to get the car issues resolved.  I hate to be so pessamistic, but I believe this particular Hertz outlet knows you will not have time to argue and leverages that to their advantage.  If things seem a bit fuzzy why not video tape what you are being told? Plan for the worst case scenario and know where the gas stations are and what the hours are  Make good use of your video camera while traveling; you can always edit out the footage when you get home.  Also, use your camera to take photos of the car before you leave the lot.  We had pursue the over charges once were were back in the States, but after a long series of letters we got a partial refund.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question. Where do you take this to court? In Cancun? You might not have a chance. I guess if you made the reservation through an American intermediate, you could go after them. although I&#039;d suspect they&#039;d just refer to the place in Cancun and say: &quot;Well, he admits making changes, so we can&#039;t be held responsible anymore for our original quote.&quot;

I get very annoyed with rental places trying to upsell customers. Once, they told me to wait two hours for my car. &quot;The previous renter was late&quot;. I told them politely that was not my problem. Well, perhaps I wanted a larger car. I asked if that would me more expensive. Yes. Well, no, I&#039;d like the car I reserved. And now please. I didn&#039;t tell them what flight I was on for no reason. In the end, the guy grudgingly gave me a larger model, with no extra cost. And I made him write that down.

The problem is that they try to make you feel guilty just to get more money from you. It&#039;s not their fault that the previous driver was late, is it? Well, you can wait for your car. How &#039;bout we give you an upgrade? 

It&#039;s a sneaky, dishonest and disgusting way of doing business. No wonder nobody trusts these guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question. Where do you take this to court? In Cancun? You might not have a chance. I guess if you made the reservation through an American intermediate, you could go after them. although I&#8217;d suspect they&#8217;d just refer to the place in Cancun and say: &#8220;Well, he admits making changes, so we can&#8217;t be held responsible anymore for our original quote.&#8221;</p>
<p>I get very annoyed with rental places trying to upsell customers. Once, they told me to wait two hours for my car. &#8220;The previous renter was late&#8221;. I told them politely that was not my problem. Well, perhaps I wanted a larger car. I asked if that would me more expensive. Yes. Well, no, I&#8217;d like the car I reserved. And now please. I didn&#8217;t tell them what flight I was on for no reason. In the end, the guy grudgingly gave me a larger model, with no extra cost. And I made him write that down.</p>
<p>The problem is that they try to make you feel guilty just to get more money from you. It&#8217;s not their fault that the previous driver was late, is it? Well, you can wait for your car. How &#8217;bout we give you an upgrade? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sneaky, dishonest and disgusting way of doing business. No wonder nobody trusts these guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sirwired

Actually a written contract DOES NOT override everything else.  There are many defenses to a written contract.  Additionally, his confirmation is also a written contract so there are two competing written contracts. Moreover,the signed contract should be in the same language and currency as the original confirmation just to avoid this exact situation, otherwise a judge is more inclined to believe that hertz in Cancun is not playing straight.</description>
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<p>Actually a written contract DOES NOT override everything else.  There are many defenses to a written contract.  Additionally, his confirmation is also a written contract so there are two competing written contracts. Moreover,the signed contract should be in the same language and currency as the original confirmation just to avoid this exact situation, otherwise a judge is more inclined to believe that hertz in Cancun is not playing straight.</p>
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		<title>By: Luciano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luciano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miami&#039;s airport Budget played a similar trick on me. I had reserved (and pre payed) a Ford Fusion (or similar) and child seat for 11 days. When picking up the car the employee told me they did not have a car of that group and instead was giving us a Nissan Murano (his words: a more comfortable car for your family). Then he added the chlid seat at $12 a day, plus taxes and gave me a total of $139,50. I signed it, picked up the keys and went to the car.I was aware the child seat charges were not pre-payed.

Later reviewing the reservation, it said the child seat would cost around $60 (as did Budget&#039;s online reservation system).

When returning the car my wife questioned the $139,50 charge, and the same employee said that it was not for the child seat, they were not even charging it. It was for the category upgrade which I had signed! What I signed indeed said rental charges, but he clearly had told me the extra charges were for the child seat). At least a disrespectfull attitude.

Due to an accident on the freeway we were running late for our flight and decided to deal with that later. When arriving home I contacted my travel agent and she got in touch with Budget. If they did not have a car on the group I had reserved, an upgrade could not cost me anything, after all, it was not my fault they didn&#039;t have the car, but they confirmed their version of the facts. A couple of weeks later they did refund the difference ($77).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miami&#8217;s airport Budget played a similar trick on me. I had reserved (and pre payed) a Ford Fusion (or similar) and child seat for 11 days. When picking up the car the employee told me they did not have a car of that group and instead was giving us a Nissan Murano (his words: a more comfortable car for your family). Then he added the chlid seat at $12 a day, plus taxes and gave me a total of $139,50. I signed it, picked up the keys and went to the car.I was aware the child seat charges were not pre-payed.</p>
<p>Later reviewing the reservation, it said the child seat would cost around $60 (as did Budget&#8217;s online reservation system).</p>
<p>When returning the car my wife questioned the $139,50 charge, and the same employee said that it was not for the child seat, they were not even charging it. It was for the category upgrade which I had signed! What I signed indeed said rental charges, but he clearly had told me the extra charges were for the child seat). At least a disrespectfull attitude.</p>
<p>Due to an accident on the freeway we were running late for our flight and decided to deal with that later. When arriving home I contacted my travel agent and she got in touch with Budget. If they did not have a car on the group I had reserved, an upgrade could not cost me anything, after all, it was not my fault they didn&#8217;t have the car, but they confirmed their version of the facts. A couple of weeks later they did refund the difference ($77).</p>
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		<title>By: SirWired</title>
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		<dc:creator>SirWired</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does he still have his rental agreement?  That will answer all questions instantly.  If his rental contract lists the more expensive car at the higher rate, he will lose in court (and with the ccard), as a written contract overrides everything else.

That said, a Dodge Nitro ain&#039;t exactly a &quot;specialty vehicle&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does he still have his rental agreement?  That will answer all questions instantly.  If his rental contract lists the more expensive car at the higher rate, he will lose in court (and with the ccard), as a written contract overrides everything else.</p>
<p>That said, a Dodge Nitro ain&#8217;t exactly a &#8220;specialty vehicle&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ames</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Were the numbers correct on the one he signed?  Did he keep a copy of the one he signed?  I make a cheat sheet for myself when dealing with unfamiliar currency and I try to memorize an approximation for $10 or $100 so I can quickly estimate whether an  invoice is within the range I expect it to be.  And although I am far from a car buff, I think I could tell the difference between a compact and an all terrrain vehicle and verify that they gave me the right car at the right price before I accepted the keys.  There is much more going on here than meets the eye.  

Traveling wastes more paper for me than nearly any other activity, but I print out my reservations and keep copies of anything I sign for a long time.  Sometimes it is a nice reminder two years later of a trip, sometimes just debris, but in a case like this absolutely critical.  Either Mr Getson signed the wrong paperwork - so he is stuck - or paperwork was switched on him.  His copy should tell the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were the numbers correct on the one he signed?  Did he keep a copy of the one he signed?  I make a cheat sheet for myself when dealing with unfamiliar currency and I try to memorize an approximation for $10 or $100 so I can quickly estimate whether an  invoice is within the range I expect it to be.  And although I am far from a car buff, I think I could tell the difference between a compact and an all terrrain vehicle and verify that they gave me the right car at the right price before I accepted the keys.  There is much more going on here than meets the eye.  </p>
<p>Traveling wastes more paper for me than nearly any other activity, but I print out my reservations and keep copies of anything I sign for a long time.  Sometimes it is a nice reminder two years later of a trip, sometimes just debris, but in a case like this absolutely critical.  Either Mr Getson signed the wrong paperwork &#8211; so he is stuck &#8211; or paperwork was switched on him.  His copy should tell the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Dayton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne Dayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely take them to Small Claims Court.  Highly doubtful that anybody from their NJ head office will bother to show up, so you will win by default and have a judgment against them, which could be served on your local outlet if they are corporately-owned, thereby impeding their operations.  Be sure to show up at a peak time to serve your writ of seizure to maximize the inconvenience for the City Manager and the embarrassment in front of a line of customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely take them to Small Claims Court.  Highly doubtful that anybody from their NJ head office will bother to show up, so you will win by default and have a judgment against them, which could be served on your local outlet if they are corporately-owned, thereby impeding their operations.  Be sure to show up at a peak time to serve your writ of seizure to maximize the inconvenience for the City Manager and the embarrassment in front of a line of customers.</p>
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		<title>By: John F</title>
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		<dc:creator>John F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it seems like a bait and switch, but I am guessing that he made the assumption his actual rental was as he reserved. My guess is that they told him about the LDW and he just signed the agreement without reading it. Apparently, the agreement included the higher rate, the class of car, etc.

I am also sure the Mexico location knows exactly how long it takes to convert the money for a &quot;gringo&quot; and uses that to their advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it seems like a bait and switch, but I am guessing that he made the assumption his actual rental was as he reserved. My guess is that they told him about the LDW and he just signed the agreement without reading it. Apparently, the agreement included the higher rate, the class of car, etc.</p>
<p>I am also sure the Mexico location knows exactly how long it takes to convert the money for a &#8220;gringo&#8221; and uses that to their advantage.</p>
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