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		<title>By: Al</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/are-car-rental-companies-double-dipping-on-damage-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-35584</link>
		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On 2/27/10, I rented a car from Enterprise/National at the Allentown, PA, airport, in order to drive to the Harrisburg Airport, 53 miles away to retrieve my car, which had been parked there when I flew to Florida for a vacation.  My return flight to Harrisburg had been cancelled due to a snow storm and the only other airport I could use was Allentown, leaving me with the problem of how to retrieve my car in Harrisburg.  I had the rental car all of an hour and a half (the time it takes to drive from Allentown to Harrisburg.  The entire drive was interstate highway and the car was never parked anywhere from the time I rented it until the time I returned it an hour and a half later.  At the Harrisburg Airport, their employee checked in the car with no damage.  Now, two weeks later I get a form letter from National telling me that I am liable for a 2 foot long scratch on the hood.  Impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 2/27/10, I rented a car from Enterprise/National at the Allentown, PA, airport, in order to drive to the Harrisburg Airport, 53 miles away to retrieve my car, which had been parked there when I flew to Florida for a vacation.  My return flight to Harrisburg had been cancelled due to a snow storm and the only other airport I could use was Allentown, leaving me with the problem of how to retrieve my car in Harrisburg.  I had the rental car all of an hour and a half (the time it takes to drive from Allentown to Harrisburg.  The entire drive was interstate highway and the car was never parked anywhere from the time I rented it until the time I returned it an hour and a half later.  At the Harrisburg Airport, their employee checked in the car with no damage.  Now, two weeks later I get a form letter from National telling me that I am liable for a 2 foot long scratch on the hood.  Impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Angy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disputing a charge of $962.92 that Enterprise rental company sent me a bill for.

On November 17, 2009 I went to Enterprise at 601 South Cameron Street, Harrisburg PA to pick up a rental car. My car was in the shop getting fixed from an accident after someone ran me into a barrier on 581 and fled the scene. When I got to Enterprise this lady that took care of me seemed to be helpful. She walked around the car and marked down all the damage that she saw. We talked about the insurance and since the car was in good condition I declined it since I park in safe places and don&#039;t really drive that much. I signed off on the papers so that I could get the key. I left the office and everything seemed fine for a week. 

It was December 1, 2009 when I was at work and got a call from the same lady that I dealt with when I first got the car. She stated that she needed to give me another car and take the car I was currently using. I informed her that I was getting my car back the very next day, in less than 12 hours, but she insisted that they had to have the first car back. She came to my work and stated that she was in a hurry as well as she knew I was since I wasn&#039;t on lunch or break. She had already started to mark down damage on the car before I got a chance to meet her in the parking lot. When I got down to talk to her she was almost finished and she said to me that she was finding a lot of damage from the previous user. I took a look at the paper she was filling out and saw that there were a lot of damages. It seemed as though she got everything after looking at the car and the paper. There was a lot of writing and this car was really beat up. I initialed the paper since she was in a hurry and I had to get back to work. She did not ask about insurance on this car which I would have taken considering the poor condition of the car and the fact that she was finding countless amounts of damage as we were standing there. She handed me the key and I went back to work. The very next day, December 2, 2009, I had to go to work so my husband took the car to pick up my car at L.B. Smith Ford Lincoln Mercury, and since there was an Enterprise on site he was told he could just leave the car there. He drove from New Cumberland to 1100 Market Street, Lemoyne. When my husband went to give the key to the Enterprise representative the representative was extremely rude to him. The guy walked around the car and stated to my husband that there was a dent on the car that wasn&#039;t marked down previously. My husband explained that we had the car less than 12 hours and didn&#039;t drive anywhere except home from work and then to the Enterprise location. He also told the rep working for enterprise that there was a bunch of damage when the car was given to me. My husband refused to sign anything since the damage was not ours. My husband left the site and accidentally left the papers in the car. When he told me about this I immediately called Enterprise and they directed me to the Damage Recovery Unit. I spoke with a rep and they told me that there was nothing reported and that unless I receive something in the mail not to worry about it.

On February 5th I received a letter as well as the bill from Enterprise for $962.92. After looking at the bill I saw that they charged me for two dents, loss of use, a depreciation fees, and administrative fees. On the letter dated January 29th 2010 it stated that I needed to remit payment within 10 days. I made a call to a guy named Mike Smith at 352-313-4637 who was the representative that was working on my case in the Damage Recovery Unit and asked what I can do to dispute this. The guy was extremely rude and short with me. He told me that if the payment wasn&#039;t in the office within 10 days that they were going to send me to a collection agency. I asked Mike if I could get a copy of the reports to see what other damage was reported that day and he said he was not able to release that information to me. I also asked if he could send me pictures that were taken after the previous user returned the car and after I returned the car. Mike said that they only have pictures of when the car was in the shop getting fixed from the damage I caused. I was told that he would email me the pictures without a problem. I waited and waited and still no pictures. Since I am looking into buying a house and need to keep my credit in good standing I had to make the payment in full which I did. Along with the payment I also sent a letter stating that even though I am making the payment I am not accepting responsibility of the damage on the car. The payment and letter were sent certified to Atlanta, GA and delivered February 15, 2010. I have not heard anything since.

I do not accept responsibility for this and feel that I was set up to take a car that they knew was damaged. I don&#039;t know how to resolve this but I was obviously set up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disputing a charge of $962.92 that Enterprise rental company sent me a bill for.</p>
<p>On November 17, 2009 I went to Enterprise at 601 South Cameron Street, Harrisburg PA to pick up a rental car. My car was in the shop getting fixed from an accident after someone ran me into a barrier on 581 and fled the scene. When I got to Enterprise this lady that took care of me seemed to be helpful. She walked around the car and marked down all the damage that she saw. We talked about the insurance and since the car was in good condition I declined it since I park in safe places and don&#8217;t really drive that much. I signed off on the papers so that I could get the key. I left the office and everything seemed fine for a week. </p>
<p>It was December 1, 2009 when I was at work and got a call from the same lady that I dealt with when I first got the car. She stated that she needed to give me another car and take the car I was currently using. I informed her that I was getting my car back the very next day, in less than 12 hours, but she insisted that they had to have the first car back. She came to my work and stated that she was in a hurry as well as she knew I was since I wasn&#8217;t on lunch or break. She had already started to mark down damage on the car before I got a chance to meet her in the parking lot. When I got down to talk to her she was almost finished and she said to me that she was finding a lot of damage from the previous user. I took a look at the paper she was filling out and saw that there were a lot of damages. It seemed as though she got everything after looking at the car and the paper. There was a lot of writing and this car was really beat up. I initialed the paper since she was in a hurry and I had to get back to work. She did not ask about insurance on this car which I would have taken considering the poor condition of the car and the fact that she was finding countless amounts of damage as we were standing there. She handed me the key and I went back to work. The very next day, December 2, 2009, I had to go to work so my husband took the car to pick up my car at L.B. Smith Ford Lincoln Mercury, and since there was an Enterprise on site he was told he could just leave the car there. He drove from New Cumberland to 1100 Market Street, Lemoyne. When my husband went to give the key to the Enterprise representative the representative was extremely rude to him. The guy walked around the car and stated to my husband that there was a dent on the car that wasn&#8217;t marked down previously. My husband explained that we had the car less than 12 hours and didn&#8217;t drive anywhere except home from work and then to the Enterprise location. He also told the rep working for enterprise that there was a bunch of damage when the car was given to me. My husband refused to sign anything since the damage was not ours. My husband left the site and accidentally left the papers in the car. When he told me about this I immediately called Enterprise and they directed me to the Damage Recovery Unit. I spoke with a rep and they told me that there was nothing reported and that unless I receive something in the mail not to worry about it.</p>
<p>On February 5th I received a letter as well as the bill from Enterprise for $962.92. After looking at the bill I saw that they charged me for two dents, loss of use, a depreciation fees, and administrative fees. On the letter dated January 29th 2010 it stated that I needed to remit payment within 10 days. I made a call to a guy named Mike Smith at 352-313-4637 who was the representative that was working on my case in the Damage Recovery Unit and asked what I can do to dispute this. The guy was extremely rude and short with me. He told me that if the payment wasn&#8217;t in the office within 10 days that they were going to send me to a collection agency. I asked Mike if I could get a copy of the reports to see what other damage was reported that day and he said he was not able to release that information to me. I also asked if he could send me pictures that were taken after the previous user returned the car and after I returned the car. Mike said that they only have pictures of when the car was in the shop getting fixed from the damage I caused. I was told that he would email me the pictures without a problem. I waited and waited and still no pictures. Since I am looking into buying a house and need to keep my credit in good standing I had to make the payment in full which I did. Along with the payment I also sent a letter stating that even though I am making the payment I am not accepting responsibility of the damage on the car. The payment and letter were sent certified to Atlanta, GA and delivered February 15, 2010. I have not heard anything since.</p>
<p>I do not accept responsibility for this and feel that I was set up to take a car that they knew was damaged. I don&#8217;t know how to resolve this but I was obviously set up!</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/are-car-rental-companies-double-dipping-on-damage-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-33612</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 05:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had an experience with Enterprise which is similar to what a lot of people are describing here.  I rented from a location close to JFK in NY last October.  When I rented the car, it was dark, and the lighting in the lot was bad.  When we did the walk around, the guy didn&#039;t inspect the roof of the car.  In fact, I&#039;ve never seen anyone inspect the roof of a car during a rental.  However, when I returned, the agent actually stood on the bumper to look at the roof, and claimed that there were about 20 scratches there.  I never had anything on the roof, and nothing fell on it - so how could those scratches have gotten there?  I definitely suspect that I&#039;m being scammed here.  Is there any legal recourse for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had an experience with Enterprise which is similar to what a lot of people are describing here.  I rented from a location close to JFK in NY last October.  When I rented the car, it was dark, and the lighting in the lot was bad.  When we did the walk around, the guy didn&#8217;t inspect the roof of the car.  In fact, I&#8217;ve never seen anyone inspect the roof of a car during a rental.  However, when I returned, the agent actually stood on the bumper to look at the roof, and claimed that there were about 20 scratches there.  I never had anything on the roof, and nothing fell on it &#8211; so how could those scratches have gotten there?  I definitely suspect that I&#8217;m being scammed here.  Is there any legal recourse for this?</p>
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		<title>By: J.(philly)</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/are-car-rental-companies-double-dipping-on-damage-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-31821</link>
		<dc:creator>J.(philly)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rented a car fro Enterprise on a Sunday.(supposely no damages) Returned 1 day earlier than suppose to. Upon returning the car at another office closer to my home I was informed that there was a pinhair scratch under the trim of the paassenger side door.I infomed  the  employee at this office that I did not scratch the car nor did i park anywhere that the car could get scratched because I only went to work and back home. there are no trees or bushes at work and I parked in my driveway beside my house to keep the car from getting any damages. A damage claim was filed by Enterprise and after 2 weeks or so I heard from them. In the meantime, I on several occasions I called  and visited the office that I originally rented from and no one could give me any answers until they heard from the claims office. To make a longer story short, I received a letter from  Enterprise staing that they tried to contact me  several times and couldn&quot;t. (never heard from them until I received this letter).The letter stated that the damages found were caused by me and I owed $377.00 plus.Upon speaking to someone from damage control, the amount went up to $508.00. $100.00 (2 days for not being able to use the car and a fee for filing plus other charges). If I don&quot;t pay these charges it will be submitted to collections then to court where I would have to pay the damage  fees plus court cost if I&#039;m found guilty. WOW now what. I feel that I&#039;m being accused of doing something that someone else did and they weren&#039;t caught so now I&#039;m suppsse to pay for their damages .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rented a car fro Enterprise on a Sunday.(supposely no damages) Returned 1 day earlier than suppose to. Upon returning the car at another office closer to my home I was informed that there was a pinhair scratch under the trim of the paassenger side door.I infomed  the  employee at this office that I did not scratch the car nor did i park anywhere that the car could get scratched because I only went to work and back home. there are no trees or bushes at work and I parked in my driveway beside my house to keep the car from getting any damages. A damage claim was filed by Enterprise and after 2 weeks or so I heard from them. In the meantime, I on several occasions I called  and visited the office that I originally rented from and no one could give me any answers until they heard from the claims office. To make a longer story short, I received a letter from  Enterprise staing that they tried to contact me  several times and couldn&#8221;t. (never heard from them until I received this letter).The letter stated that the damages found were caused by me and I owed $377.00 plus.Upon speaking to someone from damage control, the amount went up to $508.00. $100.00 (2 days for not being able to use the car and a fee for filing plus other charges). If I don&#8221;t pay these charges it will be submitted to collections then to court where I would have to pay the damage  fees plus court cost if I&#8217;m found guilty. WOW now what. I feel that I&#8217;m being accused of doing something that someone else did and they weren&#8217;t caught so now I&#8217;m suppsse to pay for their damages .</p>
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		<title>By: Carver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cynthia

Why can&#039;t you repair things yourself?  It seems to me that if I am going to be charged for something then I should be able to get it repaired.

In fact, I remember I had a blow-out with a rental car.  Budget told me that if I could get it to Goodyear, the tire would be replaced and directly billed to Budget, but if not, I could get it replaced and they would deduct the cost from my bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cynthia</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t you repair things yourself?  It seems to me that if I am going to be charged for something then I should be able to get it repaired.</p>
<p>In fact, I remember I had a blow-out with a rental car.  Budget told me that if I could get it to Goodyear, the tire would be replaced and directly billed to Budget, but if not, I could get it replaced and they would deduct the cost from my bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Upon inspection my husband did not find any damage on an Enterprise rental car we had while ours was in for repairs. He drove it 5 miles home  and when I got in the passenger seat I saw a star type ding in the windshield on my side. He went back to Enterprise and they said it hadn&#039;t been there before!
Even though you aren&#039;t supposed to get things fixed yourself we took it to the auto glass place to see about a minor repair. We were told by this professional that he couldn&#039;t repair it as it had already been repaired once before! Upon return to Enterprise we took a signed letter outlining the issue, included the glass repairman&#039;s card,  and had the Enterprise employee sign our copy of the letter to acknowledge it.
In Italy full CDW is required by law and that was fine but it doesn&#039;t cover windshield damage. While cleaning the windshield the wiper blade chipped the windshield. Piece of junk Italian car cost us 100 euros extra. You can only protect yourself sometimes, I guess it is just part of the travel experience and expense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upon inspection my husband did not find any damage on an Enterprise rental car we had while ours was in for repairs. He drove it 5 miles home  and when I got in the passenger seat I saw a star type ding in the windshield on my side. He went back to Enterprise and they said it hadn&#8217;t been there before!<br />
Even though you aren&#8217;t supposed to get things fixed yourself we took it to the auto glass place to see about a minor repair. We were told by this professional that he couldn&#8217;t repair it as it had already been repaired once before! Upon return to Enterprise we took a signed letter outlining the issue, included the glass repairman&#8217;s card,  and had the Enterprise employee sign our copy of the letter to acknowledge it.<br />
In Italy full CDW is required by law and that was fine but it doesn&#8217;t cover windshield damage. While cleaning the windshield the wiper blade chipped the windshield. Piece of junk Italian car cost us 100 euros extra. You can only protect yourself sometimes, I guess it is just part of the travel experience and expense.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Connie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

after reading your article, I am almost sure that this is happening to me. My husband and i rented a car over three months ago and are now just being informed that there was damage to the car. we were sent a letter from a claims company for Thrifty. The letter doesn&#039;t even say what the damage was, only &quot;physical damage&quot; and &quot;loss of use&quot; as well as a $100 admin fee. They also said in the letter that if we didn&#039;t pay in a month that they would send us to collections. i don&#039;t see how they can wait 3 months to tell us that there is damage and then be so threatening with their letters. i realy hope i can reason with them and show they why it would be rediculous to pay for something 3 months after the fact. thanks in advance for your time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>after reading your article, I am almost sure that this is happening to me. My husband and i rented a car over three months ago and are now just being informed that there was damage to the car. we were sent a letter from a claims company for Thrifty. The letter doesn&#8217;t even say what the damage was, only &#8220;physical damage&#8221; and &#8220;loss of use&#8221; as well as a $100 admin fee. They also said in the letter that if we didn&#8217;t pay in a month that they would send us to collections. i don&#8217;t see how they can wait 3 months to tell us that there is damage and then be so threatening with their letters. i realy hope i can reason with them and show they why it would be rediculous to pay for something 3 months after the fact. thanks in advance for your time!</p>
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		<title>By: omer</title>
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		<dc:creator>omer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rented a car from Budget in Mechanicsburg PA.It was almost closing time for the store. I was prompted to sign all the paperwork including the damage claim form before even seeing the car. I took the car home. On the way I realized that the car was still pretty dirty. There was an overwhelming cigarette smell and thought I would wipe the dashboard and spray it with anti-odor material. As I was doing this I noticed a small crack on the very bottom portion of the windshield. I called Budget back immidiately. The store had already closed. So I went to the store the next day after work and showed the crack to the employee. She asked me if I ever got on a highway since it looked like it would have been caused by a speedy object hitting the glass. I told her that wasn&#039;t on any highway any nothing hit the windshield. She told me that she would note this and not to worry, that it was good that I brought the car back instead of waiting. 3 days later I returned the car and got my return receipt and left the store. Not until almost three weeks after that did I get a Damage Claim bill in the mail for $600 for the replacement of the windshield. Frustrated, I called the number on the bill. The lady that answered the phone was very unprofessional. From calling me &quot;honey&quot; to saying she cannot believe me because when I was teling her the story I wasn&#039;t remembering exact times for the rental. (I missed it by t10-15 minutes :) Easy for her since she has all the info on the screen in front of her). Anyways, needles to say I am very dissapointed and will inform everybody, including the better business bureau about this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rented a car from Budget in Mechanicsburg PA.It was almost closing time for the store. I was prompted to sign all the paperwork including the damage claim form before even seeing the car. I took the car home. On the way I realized that the car was still pretty dirty. There was an overwhelming cigarette smell and thought I would wipe the dashboard and spray it with anti-odor material. As I was doing this I noticed a small crack on the very bottom portion of the windshield. I called Budget back immidiately. The store had already closed. So I went to the store the next day after work and showed the crack to the employee. She asked me if I ever got on a highway since it looked like it would have been caused by a speedy object hitting the glass. I told her that wasn&#8217;t on any highway any nothing hit the windshield. She told me that she would note this and not to worry, that it was good that I brought the car back instead of waiting. 3 days later I returned the car and got my return receipt and left the store. Not until almost three weeks after that did I get a Damage Claim bill in the mail for $600 for the replacement of the windshield. Frustrated, I called the number on the bill. The lady that answered the phone was very unprofessional. From calling me &#8220;honey&#8221; to saying she cannot believe me because when I was teling her the story I wasn&#8217;t remembering exact times for the rental. (I missed it by t10-15 minutes :) Easy for her since she has all the info on the screen in front of her). Anyways, needles to say I am very dissapointed and will inform everybody, including the better business bureau about this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: gwynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. Yesterday I was riding my bike, which accidentally scratched a rental car because when I was merging into a turning lane, the car in front of me stopped suddenly. It&#039;s not a terrible scratch, but the driver was very upset. I think we were both at fault, but still the woman took my license and told me I would have to pay for charges out of pocket because I don&#039;t have car insurance (i don&#039;t own a car).  She has insurance, but she doesn&#039;t want to pay.  Should I pay out of pocket to the car rental place or pay to her insurance company? Not sure if one or the other is better. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Yesterday I was riding my bike, which accidentally scratched a rental car because when I was merging into a turning lane, the car in front of me stopped suddenly. It&#8217;s not a terrible scratch, but the driver was very upset. I think we were both at fault, but still the woman took my license and told me I would have to pay for charges out of pocket because I don&#8217;t have car insurance (i don&#8217;t own a car).  She has insurance, but she doesn&#8217;t want to pay.  Should I pay out of pocket to the car rental place or pay to her insurance company? Not sure if one or the other is better. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/are-car-rental-companies-double-dipping-on-damage-claims/comment-page-1/#comment-21224</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Thrifty car rental franchisee in Germany (Terstappen) is running a damage ripoff scheme.  We rented a nice Mercedes from them in Frankfurt for nine days with no issues until we returned the car.  They noted a tiny (about 2&quot; long) scratch on the UNDERSIDE of the molded front bumper.  I can&#039;t say whether this was there before I rented the car, but if it was it was insignificant enough that I don&#039;t believe I would have noted it on the rental form.  I was irritated because I thought it was below the threshold of &quot;damage&quot; and had no idea how it had occurred (it is possible it occurred while parked or something).  Anyway, the agent assured me that the repair cost would be low and we would hear from them within 10 days.   But, they would have to keep our 1200 Euro deposit until the damage cost was determined.  We had to make our flight.....so what was I to do.  I waited the 10 days and never heard from them, so I emailed them saying I would dispute the VISA claim if I did not hear from them soon.  I still did not hear from them, but I got a VISA credit for $427 (about $300 Euros).  So this tiny scratch cost me 900 Euros (over $1200!!).  I will be looking to recoup by fighting with Thrify in the states.  I have seen a number of very similar claims about the Terstappen operation in Frankfurt and Munich....I would like to get together with a bunch of other wronged parties and bring civil (maybe criminal) suit against them.  How might I go about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Thrifty car rental franchisee in Germany (Terstappen) is running a damage ripoff scheme.  We rented a nice Mercedes from them in Frankfurt for nine days with no issues until we returned the car.  They noted a tiny (about 2&#8243; long) scratch on the UNDERSIDE of the molded front bumper.  I can&#8217;t say whether this was there before I rented the car, but if it was it was insignificant enough that I don&#8217;t believe I would have noted it on the rental form.  I was irritated because I thought it was below the threshold of &#8220;damage&#8221; and had no idea how it had occurred (it is possible it occurred while parked or something).  Anyway, the agent assured me that the repair cost would be low and we would hear from them within 10 days.   But, they would have to keep our 1200 Euro deposit until the damage cost was determined.  We had to make our flight&#8230;..so what was I to do.  I waited the 10 days and never heard from them, so I emailed them saying I would dispute the VISA claim if I did not hear from them soon.  I still did not hear from them, but I got a VISA credit for $427 (about $300 Euros).  So this tiny scratch cost me 900 Euros (over $1200!!).  I will be looking to recoup by fighting with Thrify in the states.  I have seen a number of very similar claims about the Terstappen operation in Frankfurt and Munich&#8230;.I would like to get together with a bunch of other wronged parties and bring civil (maybe criminal) suit against them.  How might I go about this?</p>
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