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	<title>Comments on: Airline lobby to president: &#8220;Mission accomplished!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/airline-lobby-to-president-mission-accomplished/comment-page-1/#comment-6358</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 04:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really--is anyone surprised by the &quot;misleadingly- named&quot; ATA?  This is the Bush administration&#039;s version of flipping us the bird.  They ALWAYS name it what it&#039;s not, and purport to support what they&#039;re systematically destroying.
Here is the rule for anyone who hasn&#039;t gotten it yet:  It is ALWAYS the opposite of what the name of the group, organization,  agency, or &quot;initiative&quot; is called.  See &quot;Clean Air Act.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really&#8211;is anyone surprised by the &#8220;misleadingly- named&#8221; ATA?  This is the Bush administration&#8217;s version of flipping us the bird.  They ALWAYS name it what it&#8217;s not, and purport to support what they&#8217;re systematically destroying.<br />
Here is the rule for anyone who hasn&#8217;t gotten it yet:  It is ALWAYS the opposite of what the name of the group, organization,  agency, or &#8220;initiative&#8221; is called.  See &#8220;Clean Air Act.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe F.</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/airline-lobby-to-president-mission-accomplished/comment-page-1/#comment-6255</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m flying Thanksgiving holiday weekend - I&#039;m just not taking the airlines.  Whew - looks like we dodged that bullet.  The fact that certain MOA and restricted areas will be cold on the east coast is meaningless - delays do NOT happen in airspace - they happen at airports where the demand for runway exceeds the space and time available to meet the demand.  If you want to fly from NYC to Orlando between 4-6AM you will not have any delays - otoh, if you want to fly from NYC to MCO between 4 and 6 PM Wed 11.21 - well, now THATS a different story kemosabe. . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m flying Thanksgiving holiday weekend &#8211; I&#8217;m just not taking the airlines.  Whew &#8211; looks like we dodged that bullet.  The fact that certain MOA and restricted areas will be cold on the east coast is meaningless &#8211; delays do NOT happen in airspace &#8211; they happen at airports where the demand for runway exceeds the space and time available to meet the demand.  If you want to fly from NYC to Orlando between 4-6AM you will not have any delays &#8211; otoh, if you want to fly from NYC to MCO between 4 and 6 PM Wed 11.21 &#8211; well, now THATS a different story kemosabe. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/airline-lobby-to-president-mission-accomplished/comment-page-1/#comment-6250</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question for me is why they are letting themselves be led around. After 9/11, everyone was in shock and a certain amount fo looking to Washington for guidance probably made sense.

But now, six years later, we watched one silly situation after another appear - the war in Iraq, the TSA, the situation in Iran - and most journalists seldom question the party line.

Maybe that IS the new generation of journalists ... people who belive that government SHOULD provide the answers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question for me is why they are letting themselves be led around. After 9/11, everyone was in shock and a certain amount fo looking to Washington for guidance probably made sense.</p>
<p>But now, six years later, we watched one silly situation after another appear &#8211; the war in Iraq, the TSA, the situation in Iran &#8211; and most journalists seldom question the party line.</p>
<p>Maybe that IS the new generation of journalists &#8230; people who belive that government SHOULD provide the answers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/airline-lobby-to-president-mission-accomplished/comment-page-1/#comment-6246</link>
		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But my point is that if you are right, then MSNBC (and the rest of the press) is wrong. That&#039;s not a matter of opinion, but of fact. The difference between truth and truthiness. If they are (mostly) printing truthiness, they are letting themselves be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But my point is that if you are right, then MSNBC (and the rest of the press) is wrong. That&#8217;s not a matter of opinion, but of fact. The difference between truth and truthiness. If they are (mostly) printing truthiness, they are letting themselves be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/airline-lobby-to-president-mission-accomplished/comment-page-1/#comment-6241</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 03:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fooled by the PR folks? I think not. Sheep eat what they&#039;re given and do what they&#039;re told.

Fooled would mean someone actually thought about the press releases that pass their desks each day. As one of those media guys, I think we have failed the American public miserably and continue to do so. 

Chris Elliott&#039;s post here is simply another case in point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fooled by the PR folks? I think not. Sheep eat what they&#8217;re given and do what they&#8217;re told.</p>
<p>Fooled would mean someone actually thought about the press releases that pass their desks each day. As one of those media guys, I think we have failed the American public miserably and continue to do so. </p>
<p>Chris Elliott&#8217;s post here is simply another case in point.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Elliott</title>
		<link>http://www.elliott.org/blog/airline-lobby-to-president-mission-accomplished/comment-page-1/#comment-6239</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 23:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course I&#039;m right. You have to have diversity of opinion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I&#8217;m right. You have to have diversity of opinion!</p>
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		<title>By: Jasper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jasper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So here&#039;s a question: If you are right (and I assume you are), how come that MSNBC.com is all like &#039;Wohoo, Pres fixes airline mess!&#039; and &#039;Airlines doing great, delay minor issue&#039;. Is MSNBC fooled by the happyhappy press releases? Don&#039;t they do their work as journalists and are they just copying whatever they are given? [conspiracy mode on] Are they in bed with the republicans, despite their left slant? [conspiracy mode off]. Are you just one of their multiple points-of-view, and are they letting me decide?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21818657/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21822044/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So here&#8217;s a question: If you are right (and I assume you are), how come that MSNBC.com is all like &#8216;Wohoo, Pres fixes airline mess!&#8217; and &#8216;Airlines doing great, delay minor issue&#8217;. Is MSNBC fooled by the happyhappy press releases? Don&#8217;t they do their work as journalists and are they just copying whatever they are given? [conspiracy mode on] Are they in bed with the republicans, despite their left slant? [conspiracy mode off]. Are you just one of their multiple points-of-view, and are they letting me decide?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21818657/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21818657/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21822044/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21822044/</a></p>
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