Typical case, I guess of ‘beware when the government arrives to help you.’

Contrary to popular belief, not every site can or should include community features and user-generated content. Seems to me that the whole point of government advice is that it’s reviewed, verifiable information and someone with the appropriate expertise is writing it (okay, perhaps I’m being a little idealist here). As for personal experiences, I would love to hear them too, but there’s got to be a different forum for it. Jasper’s right — it would be a moderation nightmare on the DoS website.

As for the advice being too scary… You have to know if the government didn’t warn people about something, there would be an outcry when it did happen (like people suing over their coffee being too hot).

Incidentally, U.S. travelers may also want to book mark the Overseas Security Advisory Council (OSAC) website or subscribe to their daily email reports. OSAC Warden Messages and other security reports pick up on issues (such as demonstrations, strikes, natural disasters and other disruptions) that don’t get included in Travel Alerts or the more general Country Specific Information pages.

I went bowling last night in Atlanta, and experienced excessive drowsiness, confusion, dizziness and nausea after drinking a pitcher of beer. Should I complain to the state department about that? NO! That’s what happens when you drink too much!

The govt is not in social networking. Neither is it in advertising foreign travel. But it is in the business of informing people. That includes informing travelers on the possible dangers, but it should also include giving the proper context so they are not unnecessarily scared for no reason.

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* “Several American visitors have reported experiencing excessive drowsiness, confusion, dizziness, and nausea after drinking alcohol in public areas such as hotel bars and night clubs in several cities throughout the Netherlands.”

Probably true, but again, come on people, you’re in the country of (semi)legal pot, and the world’s largest producer in amphetamine pills. Also, most people that get to deal with this, were looking for it. The Dutch (and the authorities) are very annoyed with foreigners that come to Amsterdam to play with drugs, don’t know what they’re doing, get sick and then run to their embassy crying like little babies. There’s a saying: “If you burn your hands, the blisters will hurt”, i.e.: don’t play with fire, kids. It may hurt.

* “”Some common medications are not available in the Netherlands without a prescription, and some prescription drugs cannot be mailed into the country.”

While true, it might have been nicer to just say that outside of the US, medication regulations are different than in the US. Certain common US drugs may not be available, or be available under a different name. The same goes if you go the other way. Certain medications available in the NL are not available in the US, or have a different name.

* “Confidence artists have victimized a number of Americans.” … ”’419 scams”..

Nobody has e-mail in the US? Again, this is true, but anywhere where people have access to e-mail.

* “Intercity travel by road is relatively safe in comparison to some other European countries. Nonetheless, more than 1,000 people die and another 10,000 are injured in traffic accidents in the Netherlands each year.”

It would have been nice to note that road travel is relatively safe compared to the US. A thousand traffic deaths (it’s actually eight hundred something) on 16 million inhabitants (NL), roughly equals roughly 19,000 on 300 million (US). But oh wait, in the US last year 46,000 people died in traffic. So, traffic in the Netherlands is WAAYY safer than traffic in the US. Is not what I catch from that line.

As a note for improvement, they might note that traffic safety has been improved the truly omnipresent (and hated) electronic speed cameras, and that it has become virtually impossible to not get ticketed for speeding. On the beltway of Rotterdam, they even calculate your average speed from entry to exit point by taking your pic when you get on and off. So no excuses that you were just passing someone. Doing 82 where you can do 80? Sorry, that’s €60. If you get stopped as a foreigner, you don’t drive until you’ve paid. And nobody, citizen or foreigner, leaves the country with unpaid tickets. Emigration is happy to take your cash or credit card. Actually, everybody loves the little items in newspapers, when some crook tries to go on vacation with his family and gets stopped for enormous amounts of outstanding parking, and speeding fines. The justicial collection agents are also enhancing holiday fun by visiting notorious late-payers on holidays. “Merry Christmas Sir, can we please collect that €1200 in parking and speeding tickets? Ah, no problem, we’ll take that brand new plasma screen in stead. Have a wonderful New Year”.

* “Persons violating Dutch laws, even unknowingly, may be expelled, arrested or imprisoned. Penalties for possession, use, or trafficking in illegal drugs in The Netherlands are severe, and convicted offenders can expect long jail sentences and heavy fines.”

Pffffff. Penalties for drug related crime long? Sorry boys, that’s wrong. There are many misconceptions about what is, and what is not legal in the NL, but penalties are very minor compared to those in the US (unpleasant nevertheless).

Anyway, this is not the place to debate with the State Dept on their wording, but with information like this, I would urge everybody to take notice, but also to read things with a grain of salt. Many of the texts are very generic, which is understandable because there are a lot of countries and not every little country can get special attention. But, you do get a more negative image of a country if you only pay attention to all these warnings.

If you look at per capita numbers, in the NL, there are less people in prison, less traffic deaths, less drug addicts, less murders and less abortions than in the US. That’s not the image I get, when reading the State Dept.

So folks, when using that website: please balance this information with the positive spin of your random tourist guide. And as always, when abroad: use common sense and be careful with foreign authorities; most of them are relatively friendly, but some of them are not. And your rights are most likely different than what you’re used to.

For instance, where the NL are at odds with the US, is that the police tap phone lines like crazy, and you can be arrested only based on probable suspicion, but without being charged (see the Nathalie Holloway case for that).