“You will be charged $25 per bag on your return flight”

February 18, 2010

I never meant to openly challenge American Airlines’ indefensible policy of charging those who can least afford it – budget-conscious leisure travelers – for the first checked bag. I had no intention of making a scene when I boarded a flight to Dallas with my family this morning.

But sometimes, these things can’t be avoided.

We were traveling with one carry-on bag per person. But three members of our party were kids, so it looked as if we were trying to pull a fast one, hauling everything but the kitchen sink on board. Also, the luggage template they forced us to squeeze our bags into looked as if it could barely fit a pocketbook. (Is it my imagination, or are those templates getting smaller?)

The agent reluctantly gate-checked four of our bags to our final destination without charging us. But not before subjecting us to a humiliating dress-down in front of the other passengers.

“Just a reminder,” she said on the PA, as we frantically tried to repack some of our bags. “You are limited to one-carry on bag and a personal item. Anything else will have to be checked …”

All she needed was a spotlight. I felt like taking a bow and saying, “We’ll be here again next week! Come back and see us!”

Bringing too much luggage on board is a proven but controversial strategy for avoiding luggage fees. Except that we had no intention of playing the system. If anything, we were singled out for being inefficient packers and traveling with young kids.

So here I am, sitting in seat 30D with the roar of an MD-80 engine in my right ear and a gate agent’s words still resonating in my left: “You will be charged $25 per bag on your return flight.”

I took it as a threat at the time, but in retrospect, the agents probably see this every day, and their anger is directed at their employer who introduced the pay-for-the-first-bag rule two years ago – a policy decision that brought tens of millions of dollars in much-needed revenue to American Airlines.

I don’t have a problem with unbundling – the act of removing components of an airline ticket — in principle. But as I mentioned in a previous column, there’s a right way to do it and a wrong way. American’s decision to “upsell” us on luggage is wrong; Sen. Robert Menendez (D-NJ), who introduced the Clear Airfares Act last year, has the right idea.

Airlines ought to be required by law to quote a price that includes essential components, such as the ability to check a bag, and allow passengers to opt out, rather than trying to upsell customers on something they assume will be part of the ticket. Anything else is dishonest.

I accept the blame for being a bad packer. But should American have stopped us because we were traveling with a three-year-old, a five-year-old and a seven-year-old, and it just looked as if we were flouting the rules? I think you know the answer to that question.

On our return trip next week, I’ll make sure everything fits in the Lilliputian luggage template. If American insists on charging us an extra $100 for our bags, you’ll read about it here first.

(Photo: Robert Crum/Flickr Creative Commons)

  • Liz

    Those luggage templates are ridiculous – I’m sure 80% of the bags that end up in the overheads wouldn’t fit in there. I’m sure mine doesn’t.

    30D Chris? For an experienced traveler like yourself? What happened?

  • Victor Ozols

    In business school they taught us that there is no commodity more perishable than an airline seat. When an airplane takes off with an empty seat, a revenue opportunity is lost forever. I think that maxim can be updated for the unbundled era: a passenger traveling without a checked bag represents a revenue opportunity lost forever. I’m pretty sure airline executives came to this conclusion before I did, and are acting accordingly by intimidating travelers into checking bags they’d otherwise carry on. I don’t expect any reversal in policy at this point, but it heartens me to see people fight back.

  • Christopher Elliott

    @Liz, I’m traveling with kids — they put us all in the back. If I’d been put there while traveling alone, I’d get suspicious.

  • WD

    I just reserved a flight last night using frequent flier miles and it hit me why they’re now charging these bag fees. It’s a way to get me to pay for the ‘free’ flight I supposedly had earned.

  • Jean Binkovitz

    We had this experience long before the current wave of fees. We were traveling to Scotland with our daughter and I was 8 months pregnant at the time, so my husband had our three carry-on bags. We entered together and were clearly allowed 3 bags, but that didn’t stop the Delta pilot from shouting from the cockpit, “Stop them!” The flight attendant did as instructed. After an aisle-way discussion that held up boarding, we eventually took our 3 seats with our 3 bags. That was 1988!
    It’s not how I expect to be treated when paying hundreds of dollars and following the restrictive rules to the letter. Delta had been my favorite airline, but that flight and another bad Delta experience forced me to avoid them.

  • Cassivella

    Thanks, Chris, you made me laugh. I just had visions of all those people who use their 3 year-olds as pack mules and burden them with a 22 inch roll aboard that is taller than they are plus a “personal item”. I don’t know any 3 year-olds who need that much luggage (especially when you see the parents with their own roll aboards and duffel bags. Sometimes I wonder if it would be worth having children so I wouldn’t have to check a bag…LOL

    I’m convinced the luggage templates are made to conform to the CRJ’s supposed overhead bin storage. I have a roll aboard laptop bag that has literally been on every brand/model of airplane that is commercially flying today. It fits in every overhead bin except the CRJs. It fits in little 30-seater Embraers and 34-seater Saabs. Will not fit in any version of the CRJ – 200-900. And, of course, it doesn’t fit in the luggage template.

    I don’t mind flying regional jets at all (if I did, I would be in the wrong job). But I will fly out of my way to avoid a Canadair RJ.

  • Joshua Z.

    30D means you were on the right side — which has the larger overhead bins (than the left side of the aircraft; it’s 2-3 seating, as you know). Did they refuse to let you bring it on board and at least try fitting it in a bin? I always try bringing my bag onboard first unless I know for a fact it won’t fit (such as on a CRJ or a Dash 8). One tricky plane is the Dash 8 — older ones have smaller pivoting bins that can’t hold anything; since I’m knowledgeable about fleet ops, checking the registration tells me whether I’m on line #52 or #392. At least with small planes they have no choice but to gate check stuff a lot of the time. Helps when you’re an almost-broke college student like me!

    And I’m seconding Liz’s comment about 30D… you know how loud those JT8-Ds get (although I know some people who like it ;). Couldn’t you choose your seats in advance?

  • http://www.angrymarks.com/ Kevin Fields

    This is complete B.S. and you know it, Chris. The rule is one carry-on item per passenger. Every passenger in your party had one carry-on item. You were following the rules 100% straight down the line, there’s no asterisk and a small print that says “Children under 13 not allowed carry-on items”.

    If the employee was upset about her company’s policies, it certainly wasn’t right to take it out on you, and your family, and to humiliate you in the process, especially when it is clear that you did NOTHING wrong.

    In the future, if it were me, I wouldn’t even give AA the satisfaction of collecting a fee for ANY luggage. Let FedEx or UPS ship it for you. At least you can be sure a baggage handler isn’t sniffing through your items and tallying up scores on message boards for what they find… or just stealing it.

  • Christopher Elliott

    @Joshua Z. We had a little problem getting seats together when we booked the tickets. We were “reassigned” to the back. Thanks, AA.

  • Joshua Z.

    Yikes. Sorry things went down that way.

    I should email you my story of my last travel experience. I think you’d get a kick out of it, especially since it had a happy ending.

  • Amy

    Right on, Chris. I pay full price for my kids, so they get their one carry on and personal item, just like everyone else does.

  • Steve

    I’m confused. Were your bags gate-checked because the gate agent didn’t think your kids (who had paid tickets, I assume) were entitled to a carry-on for each of them? If so, I totally agree with you. Or were they gate-checked because they were technically too big to be carry-ons? If so, I don’t see what’s worth making a fuss about. The regulations about the size of carry-on luggage are sparingly enforced, it’s true, but they exist nonetheless. The only time I’ve had to gate-check my carry-on (which I researched before I purchased and found that it was small enough to be taken onboard, with any carrier) is when I was on a small plane and no one could bring their carry-on luggage aboard.

    As to your comment that “Airlines ought to be required by law to quote a price that includes essential components, such as the ability to check a bag, and allow passengers to opt out, rather than trying to upsell customers on something they assume will be part of the ticket. Anything else is dishonest.”: I disagree. I have no problem paying an added fee for something that is under my control. I can choose whether or not to check a bag. I agree that things like fuel surcharges (and those mandatory resort fees at some hotels) should be required by law to be bundled in with the quoted price, because you can’t choose not to pay them.

    Would you rather the airlines raise fares by $15, or $25, or $50 across the board, for everyone who flies, or would you rather they hold the line on fares and add fees for optional items like checked bags? I know what I prefer…

  • Ed

    @Jean Binkovitz
    I had the same experience when traveling to Colorado to visit the folks during Christmas. My wife and I were waiting at the gate, and being the gentleman that I am, I was carrying all the carry on bags for both me and my wife so that my wife could have a little rest from our massive trek through the airport.
    While I was not overly burdened with the load, it was obvious that I was carrying more than the allotted “one carry on and one personal” items. My wife, who is all of 5’2″ and weighs barely 100lbs was standing next to me at the gate when the gate agent hollered that I was only allowed 2 carry-ons…I stated that I’m carrying my wife’s bags because she was rather exhausted from the journey to the gate and what’s the difference if I’m carrying the bags or my wife is carrying the bags…since it was obvious that her hands were completely empty and devoid of any kind of bag or carry-on.
    The gate person insisted that my wife had to carry on her own bags and that was all she would say about the ordeal…
    I don’t get it, really…
    Ed

  • Duke Nukem

    Yeah, AA is stupid regarding carry-on policy. I only say AA because that’s the only US airline I’ve flown, I don’t know if any of the others are any stupider…

  • http://www.roamingtales.com Caitlin @ Roaming Tales

    Cassivella You have to pay full price for the child’s ticket most of the time. If you want extra carry-on allowance, there’s no reason why you can’t buy two seats, and skip the having a child part.

  • LeeAnne

    Wow. Ed, that’s insane. Truly insane. If that happened to me, I would have whipped out my cellphone and asked the agent to REPEAT that…on video, so I could post it on You Tube and send it to the airline to obtain confirmation that it REALLY is the policy that each passenger must “carry their own bag”! That’s nuts…and completely inappropriate. The rules state that each passenger is “allowed” one carry-on – but nothing in the rules state that each passenger must actually HOLD that bag themselves. What about the disabled? What if a passenger DOESN’T HAVE ANY ARMS??? What about infants with a full-fare seat? Is a one-year-old supposed to carry their own diaper bag?

    I would have definitely lodged a strong complaint if that happened to me. That’s taking things to a bizarre extreme.

  • Sarah Di

    It sounds to me like the gate agent is a little power hungry. It’s not like you were trying to carryon something for each person that was way too big to be carried onto the plane. In that case, I could see charging to gate check. But for a regulation size carryon that just won’t fit on a small plane? I can’t imagine that it’s the first time the gate agent has had that problem or that you were the only ones on the plane.

  • Chicky

    And this is an MD-80 we’re talking about, here. Those carryons would have fit in the overhead. Those are older planes, built before the luggage crunch, and their bins will hold a LOT. It wasn’t an issue of bin space, I guarantee.

  • Bob

    I still don’t understand why people like you feel that checking a bag is an “essential” component of an airline ticket. It would only be essential if everyone checked a bag…but they don’t. I, personally, have flown hundreds of thousands of miles over the last few years and the last time I checked a bag was about 5 or 6 years ago. So if a plane ticket really is cheaper because those who check bags get charged for it, then I’m happy about that. (Chris, when you took this trip, may I ask where you flew from and to and also, how much your ticket cost?). “Essential” travel components are items like buying a ticket, checking in, getting a seat (any seat) on a plane, being transported from point A to point B, etc. because EVERYONE has to do this and you can’t complete your trip if you don’t. Checking a bag (even the first bag) would not fit this category.

  • Carver Farrow

    People with kids probably have to check bags. But most other’s don’t have to. I’m away for 4 days and I didn’t check my bags. I was able to fit everything into a regulation sized carry-on.

  • Cassivella

    @Caitlin – but then who would carry my bags? LOL

  • KF

    Count me as one of those people who does not want checked bag fees as part of the ticket price – I can live for 7-10 days out of a legal size carry-on, so why should I subsidize someone else who can’t pack as well.

    I will share that my parents have also been harassed as they were boarding the plane – since the had to walk up the stairs to the plane (and it was not an RJ) my father was carrying the two small roller boards (both within legal size) he and my mother used since my mom has bad knees. The FA gave him a hard time for the two bags until my mom appeared and my dad handed my mom her bag.

  • CC

    AA.com states that each carry-on cannot exceed a total of 45 inches. I once measured out my carry-on and it measured exactly 45 inches. The last time I flew the measurement bins caught my attention because they looked smaller than the 45 inches allowed. There is no way my carry-on would have passed through the fit test –and I wasn’t going to try it for fear that the agents would notice. I typically fly AA and have never had a problem fitting this bag in the over head compartment of the MD-80s or 757.

  • William Rowell

    No, Stop It. Don’t kid yourselves. THIS IS NOT UNBUNDLING!!! You see, if it WAS unbundling, then the day that the airlines imposed these new luggage fees, THE PRICES OF THE TICKETS WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN, RIGHT?

    This is “Ancillary fees” pure and simple. And the best analogy I can give is that this is Dog Food Gravy. It doesn’t matter WHAT the dog food is, from Sirloin to that dollar store dry stuff, when you put the gravy on it – YOU HAVE GRAVY! If you make $1000 or $0.50 on the seat you sell the passenger, if you charge them $25 for a checked bag, you get the $25…… The airlines have received the benefit of these fees for what, 2 years now? I have heard that some airlines have made in the neighborhood of 1/4 of a BILLION dollars in Ancillary Fees last year. Are they EVER going to give up THAT GRAVY???

    Oh, and under the heading of “so why should I subsidize someone else who can’t pack as well” (Not picking on KF, he/she just verbalized it perfectly for what I’v heard from a lot of people) I guess that this is the PERFECT reason for RyanAir to charge for using the toilet (well, if I don’t use it why should the cost for a toilet be included in MY ticket)……..

    As a side note, are taxes collected on “Ancillary Fees”??? For Bags, Headsets, on board Deluxe Meals…..(sorry, couldn’t help myself….).

  • http://http/aol.com barbie45

    Chris, you should have not have been humiliated in public. However you admit to packing very sloppily. The problem with the overheads is they were not designed to accomodate eveything including the toilet seat. By having your three old carrying her bag I am sure the line was held up. Also because of overpacking many pasengers have no room for their carry ons. Their is also a safety factor involved in having so much overhead luggage You would have been wise to have one large check in and then your carry ons. You were penny wise and pound foolish. People who cannot afford to fly should find alternative means of transportation.

  • Thomas

    So you admit to being a “Bad Packer”, but you’re a seasoned traveler? Sorry, it doesn’t make sense. I really wish the airlines would change their policy too. Sorry, this will upset most of you! Allow checked bags for free. Anything more than a laptop or a purse gets the charge hwen you carry on. Yes, I’m a Delta Diamond member and my checked luggage is free. I can’t count the times watching people board the plane with everything but the kitchen sink hold up the boarding process, and especially the ones with children! We haven’t even touched on the de-planing. How many times have any of you had a tight connection and had to wait and watch someone try and get a bag out of the overhead that wouldn’t fit in it in the first place?

  • Liz

    @William Rowell

    Amen. Adding additional fees without dropping the price is definitely not advantageous to anyone (except the airline).

  • sue

    okay, all you people who are so righteous about your good packing. You can bring as many bags as you want at whatever size, but I should get priority for the front of the plane, since I can just get up and walk out. I am soooooo sick of waiting for people to unload their whole life from the overhead bins – and no, I won’t help you – just keep your butt in your seat until I leave and then you can mess around to your hearts content. And while I’m leaving you can thank me for not taking up overhead bin space so that you can bring allllll your luggage.

  • Christopher Elliott

    @Thomas, when I’m traveling with kids, yes, I’m a bad packer. When I’m flying solo, I’m very, very good. ;-)

  • Paulette Baker

    Sue: Amen! The snobbery of the “I can fit my whole life into a carry-on” crowd is obnoxious.

  • Sarah Di

    I think some people are being a little too harsh. Yes, some air travelers bring too many and too big carryons with everything but the kitchen sink. Yes, some people easily carry on bags that fit under the seat in front of them. And, yes, there are people in between who look like they’re bringing a ton of things to the people with small bags but are within regulations for carryon size and number. Personally, I would rather have the parents and three small kids come on the plane with enough things to cover a situation that might occur (getting sick, being bored, etc…) than have them come onboard with small carryons without everything they might need and not be able to handle something that comes up. And I would rather people have enough carry on space so that they don’t have to check any valuables and risk losing them.

    The bottom line is that if they were within the limits for carry on size and number for each ticketed person, even if it was packed sloppily, the gate agent was in the wrong for threatening and embarassing them.

  • Sarah Di

    I’m also paying around the same price for the same route today with checked baggage fees that I paid 4 years ago when I got 2 checked bags free. I don’t see how the airfare has dropped any to account for no free checked bags. And the fees to check a bag just keep going up.

  • http://responsivetravel.com/ Emma

    Great post and great comments. The thing with airlines is once you’re there at the airport, there’s no going back. You have to get all of your stuff from point a to point b, and if they surprise you with some new rule there’s not a whole lot you can do about it. I really liked Victor Ozol’s suggestion to start with one ticket price, and then being able to opt out of various perks to make it cheaper. What a more satisfying experience!

  • Jen

    @Sue,

    AMEN!!!!!

  • Cindy H

    Hey Thomas, I don’t think you understand why so many of us do carry on only. It isn’t about saving money.
    * I don’t want to have the airlines lose my luggage (too many times to count)
    * I don’t want to wait for an hour for my bag to come off the carosel
    * I don’t want to spend yet another hour filing a lost bag report
    * I don’t want to go to the airport early just to stand in lines to check my bag
    No, I’d rather print my on line boarding pass and walk straight to the gate, spending more time visiting with friends and family
    I am with you though – I wish they would allow free checked bags, as many people really don’t know how to pack a carry on. And those huge rigid wheelie bags – yikes!

  • Mike

    @KF “I can live for 7-10 days out of a legal size carry-on”

    I assume you must have the hotel or someone else launder your clothing for you? or do you just wear the same dirty shirt and pants day after day.

    If there is one thing that annoys the heck out of me is those business tranvelers who have almost normal size suitcases that would never fit in the template, and barely fit in the overhead. They go and move everyone else’s stuff so they can have their bag close to their seat so they don’t have to be bothered with waiting to get off the plane. Here is a hint, those people got stuff in their bins when they did because they were at the gate on time and didn’t think that they were too important to ignore the 1-2 hour prior to flight suggested arrival time. Putyour bag where it fits because you aren’t too important to be stuck on the plane an extra 15 minutes.

  • Lisa S

    Thank you, William Rowell. I second Liz’s opinion. Get real, folks. The only reason there is a baggage fee for checked in bags is to rake in additional money without lowering fares.

    I’ve asked this before: Why can’t airlines figure out how much they need to charge per seat in order to cover costs and provide a healthy profit margin and then charge that price? Obviously, airlines have really lousy management if they can’t figure this out. I can’t believe the audacity of the airlines to complain they are losing money….

  • acproductions

    @Barbie45 – While I agree with you that the Elliotts should not have been harassed in public, your comments about their carry-ons seem to indicate that you don’t have kids, and don’t have an understanding of kids and their oh-so-short attention spans. I am not kid-oriented, and quail every time I see a bunch of little ones waiting for my same flight, but I BLESS the parents who make a real effort to pack a carry-on for the kid that has toys, games, snacks (especially non-sugar), snugglys – whatever will help that little wiggle machine last through a flight. It’s hard enough for an adult to sit tight for several hours – little ones don’t stand a chance. If I have to wait an extra minute in the aisle to let a family get situated because they have a carry-on for everyone, regardless of age, I am happy to do so if it gives me the remote chance of not being subject to kicks, crying, whining, fighting, need I go on? Yes, air travel is not nearly as much fun anymore, but all things considered, it’s still the best way to get from here to there asap. And you may want to reconsider your condescending remark about if you can’t afford it, find another way to travel. Short-sighted and not terribly realistic.

  • KF

    @Cindy H – I totally agree with your reasons, plus I’ll add
    -I have the flexibility to change flights/plans and not worry about my luggage.
    -Public transportation in Europe/Asia is easy since I just have one bag to manage and don’t quite stand out as a tourist.
    @Mike – My bag is legal size and fits the template (it’s a backpack, so it just slides in and I can grab and go). I do believe in doing laundry. I’m fortunate in my line of work that the dress code is casual. There’s also nothing wrong with wearing jeans and sweaters more than once (I slip a thin tee under sweaters). Wear my heaviest shoes on the plane.
    @William – Luggage is a choice. You can choose how you pack, whether or not you want to check it, and you have the option of shipping it if you don’t like airline fee. Heeding the call of nature is not the same sort of choice.

  • Liz

    @ Mike.

    I’m not KF but I did 2 trips to Italy (first was 7 days; second was 12 days) out of a backpack that is smaller than the sizers and a medium-sized purse. I packed 2 changes of clothes (extra underwear) and wore one. Each shirt and pant is generally good for 2 wears, so I didn’t do laundry on the first trip. Second trip, we hit the laundromat mid-way through and washed everything. I’ve also handwashed in the hotel sink. A tour member found a laundry in Rome where she could drop off her clothes and pick it up later that day for a reasonable cost.

    It’s not always possible, especially with kids, to pack super-light, but it is certainly within the capabilities of a single, able-bodied adult traveler. It’s all about choices.

    I also pack an extra suitcase inside the carry-on to check on the return flight. Haven’t figured out how to lighten my Italian wine, olive oil, and parmesean yet. :-)

  • Thomas

    I want add another point to this story that I haven’t seen anyone address. Could you imagine how much faster it would be to get through security if they made everyone check their bag?

  • Steve

    “No, Stop It. Don’t kid yourselves. THIS IS NOT UNBUNDLING!!! You see, if it WAS unbundling, then the day that the airlines imposed these new luggage fees, THE PRICES OF THE TICKETS WOULD HAVE GONE DOWN, RIGHT?”

    Not necessarily. Perhaps the airlines would have had to raise fares across the board without implementing the fees. Instead of imposing optional baggage fees, they could have simply raised all fares by the amount of the baggage fees. I find it hard to see how that would have been a better outcome for me.

  • frostysnowman

    First, Amen to William? These bag fees have nothing to do with unbundling. They are anciilary pure and simple. Someone else commented that airfares didn’t suddenly plunge $50 when they “unbundled” the baggage check fee, and that’s absolutely true.

    Second, I’m a business traveler most of the time and fully agree with Mike’s comments about so many road warriors carrying on their garment bags (which are nearly full size) along with large lap top bags. I don’t understand why they aren’t called out and made to check those garment bags. It makes me insane with annoyance. And I’m not talking about business travelers in first class, I’m talking about the coach cabin. I carry on my lap top and check my regular luggage because I am usually carrying catalogs and samples with me on a trip.

  • http://http/aol.com barbie45

    Acproductions, If you cannot afford to travel with small children that is your problem not mine. There is Amtrack, Greyhound and driving. The overhead bins were not designed to hold the things people place in them now as compared to the no baggage fee.Perhaps just sedating children while on flight might be a good idea. Just kidding.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    The rule is one carry-on item and one personal item per passenger. Except for lap children, all children can have one carry-on item and one personal item per passenger.

    Unless someone in your party had a carry-on that was bigger than 45 inches and\or a personal item wasn’t a personal item then the gate agent was wrong. If you had a carry-on that was bigger than 45 inches and/or a personal item that wasn’t a personal item, then it was your fault.

    It is hard for me to believe this story.

    First, it is hard to believe a gate agent doesn’t know the rule of one carry-on and one personal item applies to every passengers…not adult passengers. I have travel 100 flights a year for the past 9 years and I have not seen a gate agent forcing children (2 to 18) to gate check their carry-on unless the overhead bins were full already or their carry-on was too big.

    Second, it is hard for me to believe that a Super Duper Über travel expert like Chris Elliott won’t say something like “every passenger is entitled to one carry-on of regulation size and one personal item…every one in my party has a one carry-on of regulation size and one personal item. What is the problem?” For work soemtimes, I carry a tape measure with me; however, I started to carry a plastic tape measure with me if someone ever challenge me if my carry-on bag is more than 45 inches.

    Third, I have been only questioned one time on more than 20+ flights about our carry-on luggage when I was traveling with my wife and son (3YO) and that was when my wife was carrying our sleeping son and I was carrying all of our luggage…I politely said that this is the luggage for the whole party.

  • Arizona Road Warrior

    @ Steve “As to your comment that “Airlines ought to be required by law to quote a price that includes essential components, such as the ability to check a bag, and allow passengers to opt out, rather than trying to upsell customers on something they assume will be part of the ticket. Anything else is dishonest.”: I disagree.”

    As an elite FF, I can check my bags for free. It is my fear if Congress passes a law requiring airlines to include check luggage in their fares that I will lose this benefit.

    According to AA (if you beleive them), only 25% of their passengers pays a fee to check luggage. Why should 75% of AA customers subsidizes the 25%?

    If you don’t want to pay for checked luggage, you have options: 1) become an elite flyer and don’t pay a fee; 2) fly Southwest; 3) get a Continental Airlines branded credit card and pay no fee to check luggage; 4) take the bus or train.

  • The Good Doctor

    We use our two-year old as our pack mule. We pack her rollaboard with diapers, extra changes of clothes (in case of accidents), a blanket (since they’re no longer offered on domestic flights), snacks, books, games, toys, her favorite stuffed animal and anything else of ours that can fit into the remaining space. We figure if we’re paying for her ticket, we’ve paid for the overhead space too.

  • Kevin M

    One point that hasn’t been made thus far: It’s not just a question of whether a particular piece of luggage will fit in an overhead bin or not. Because two or three of those lift-up doors covers a single “bin,” you could technically fit a much larger than 45-combined-inches piece of luggage into the bin.

    The problem is that there isn’t enough bin space in a typical jet to allow every single passenger room for a roll-on bag, if the plan is near full. Next time you’re flying, put a rolling bag over your seat and see whether you think two more would fit before you’re sliding into the next seat’s “space”. But the airlines assume that at least some people won’t have overhead bin bags, and so each passenger is allowed somewhat more than 1/3 of the space directly over his or her seat row. Because of checked bag fees, lost luggage, and the like, an increasing number of people are carrying on bags – mostly legal – but the number of people doing so may sometimes exceed the number of spots there are for such bags. It’s like when airlines assume that a certain number of people won’t show up for a flight and overbook – the result is, people or bags get bumped.

    There’s a solution, but people won’t like it. Just as airlines could refuse to overbook, but also refuse to allow a sold but unused seat to be credited back to the would-be flyer, airlines could redefine the carry-on limit to equal the exact amount of space in the overhead bins, divided by the number of seats on the plane (with an allowance for wasted space). I guarantee that almost no current rollerbag would fit that limit, but at least you’d know that there would be enough room for your (essentially useless) bag.

  • Zally

    You seem to forget that there are limitations on the free carry-on allowance: one bag, weighing no more than 18 lbs, sized to fit either under the seat in front of you or in the overhead bin. Theoretically, if the overhead bins are full, you should be able to fit your hand luggage under the seat infront of you, while allowing the area around your feet to be free… If you meet these criteria, then I will agree that they were out of line. If not, they did you a favor and you shouldn’t broadcast it. The worst part here, in my opinion, is that by cutting you some slack on the outbound flight, they are setting up the agents handling you on the return for failure… “It was OK when I came out here!” – I can see it clearly…

  • Carver Farrow

    A few thoughts

    1. Prices on some routes dropped,I’ve flown RT from SFO to LAX for as little as $58 with one days notice. That route used to be $370 with one days notice

    2. As long as someone is following the carryone rules, no one has the right to object. There are legit reasons why someone would want to check bags, e.g. valuables, tight schedules, standby, etc.

    3. I don’t understand Barbie’s point about not be able to afford to travel.

    4. I agree with Arizona’s point. If we mandate that prices include checked luggage, the costs for premium/elite members will most likely increase.

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